[VS] Hinata Vs Saukra

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Sakura kills her with mid diff at the very worst. One giant punch and it's GG. Gentle Fist as an offensive is useless in every sense apart from the ability to close chakra points, and in order to do so you need to be able to jab said chakra points, and enough of them, in order to render their chakra flow useless. That's why Hinata's chakra flow wasn't shut down every single time Neji hit her w/ Gentle Fist. If Hinata ever puts herself in the position where she'd hit Sakura, Byakugo lets her eat the strike and then she retaliates turning Hinata into a fine pinkish or reddish goo. :lol Her Twin Lion's Fists are useless as well. They drain chakra, but unless she can drain all of Sakura's chakra in their exchange before Sakura smacks the shit out of her it's pointless. What's more is that they drain chakra from the body just like Mokuryu, but Mokuryu doesn't absorb Ninjutsu unless it's some sort of solid chakra Avatar. So clashing it w/ Sakura's punch does nothing but get her killed.

Oh yeah, and to shut down the enemy's chakra flow you need to close at least 64 of their Tenketsu as shown during Naruto vs. Neji. Hinata doesn't have the capability to engage Sakura, jab her 64 times and do so without Sakura retaliating or outright dodging.

-Neither have any extraordinary speed feats, but Sakura's stand out far more than Hinata's. Not debatable. So from what has been shown Sakura has the overwhelming advantage in speed. (And no, being able to use techs that Neji used doesn't make her as fast as he is)
-Hinata is more skilled in the art of Taijutsu, but not by much based on their DB stats.
-Hinata needs multiple hits to win, Sakura needs one hit and it doesn't need to be direct.
-Katsuyu just makes it a low-mid diff.
-Hinata's offense outside of blocking her chakra is utterly useless as she can heal from it with ease.

This match was debatable in Hinata's favor when we were still at the beginning of Part 2 to Pain Arc. Not anymore though. It could become debatable again if Hinata post Manga is given the chance to show new feats, but for now? Nah.
 
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Yes it is. It is an external chakra source that flows back to her body when the seal is released. Works exactly like the seal that contains Kurama.

Kurama's seal was made with the intention of letting its chakra into Naruto. The byakugou is sealed off completely. They are different.
 

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why will naruto make handseal and think "i have got to" [ ][ ][ ] if kurama did it for him lmao

Kurama's seal was made with the intention of letting its chakra into Naruto. The byakugou is sealed off completely. They are different.

so how does tsunade and sakura use chakra from it to use healing jutsu via katsuyu without opening the sea;
 
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Sakura kills her with mid diff at the very worst. One giant punch and it's GG. Gentle Fist as an offensive is useless in every sense apart from the ability to close chakra points, and in order to do so you need to be able to jab said chakra points, and enough of them, in order to render their chakra flow useless. That's why Hinata's chakra flow wasn't shut down every single time Neji hit her w/ Gentle Fist. If Hinata ever puts herself in the position where she'd hit Sakura, Byakugo lets her eat the strike and then she retaliates turning Hinata into a fine pinkish or reddish goo. :lol Her Twin Lion's Fists are useless as well. They drain chakra, but unless she can drain all of Sakura's chakra in their exchange before Sakura smacks the shit out of her it's pointless. What's more is that they drain chakra from the body just like Mokuryu, but Mokuryu doesn't absorb Ninjutsu unless it's some sort of solid chakra Avatar. So clashing it w/ Sakura's punch does nothing but get her killed.

-Neither have any extraordinary speed feats, but Sakura's stand out far more than Hinata's. Not debatable. So from what has been shown Sakura has the overwhelming advantage in speed.
-Hinata is more skilled in the art of Taijutsu, but not by much based on their DB stats.
-Hinata needs multiple hits to win, Sakura needs one hit and it doesn't need to be direct.
-Katsuyu just makes it a low-mid diff.

This match was debatable in Hinata's favor when we were still at the beginning of Part 2 to Pain Arc. Not anymore though. It could become debatable again if Hinata post Manga is given the chance to show new feats, but for now? Nah.

The gentle fist has the ability to target internal organs and close chakra points. Neji only needed to close the points in her arms as that's the only way she could inflict damage. His subsequent strikes were to attack her organs not close her points.
 

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The stored chakra is then released into their body so all the closed would open again? like kurama

Kurama isnt the Yin Seal. Kurama is a seperate being that gave Naruto the Chakra. Yin seal can't do that.

 

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The gentle fist has the ability to target internal organs and close chakra points. Neji only needed to close the points in her arms as that's the only way she could inflict damage. His subsequent strikes were to attack her organs not close her points.

I know, which is exactly my point. You need jabs to close chakra points. If simply channeling chakra closed points her points would've been closed irregardless of Neji's intent.

>Jabbing the points closes them.
>Touching and injecting chakra through the body damages internal organs.
>Thus Hinata would need multiple jabs to shut down her points.
 
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Sakura kills her with mid diff at the very worst. One giant punch and it's GG. Gentle Fist as an offensive is useless in every sense apart from the ability to close chakra points, and in order to do so you need to be able to jab said chakra points, and enough of them, in order to render their chakra flow useless. That's why Hinata's chakra flow wasn't shut down every single time Neji hit her w/ Gentle Fist. If Hinata ever puts herself in the position where she'd hit Sakura, Byakugo lets her eat the strike and then she retaliates turning Hinata into a fine pinkish or reddish goo. :lol Her Twin Lion's Fists are useless as well. They drain chakra, but unless she can drain all of Sakura's chakra in their exchange before Sakura smacks the shit out of her it's pointless. What's more is that they drain chakra from the body just like Mokuryu, but Mokuryu doesn't absorb Ninjutsu unless it's some sort of solid chakra Avatar. So clashing it w/ Sakura's punch does nothing but get her killed.

-Neither have any extraordinary speed feats, but Sakura's stand out far more than Hinata's. Not debatable. So from what has been shown Sakura has the overwhelming advantage in speed. (And no, being able to use techs that Neji used doesn't make her as fast as he is)
-Hinata is more skilled in the art of Taijutsu, but not by much based on their DB stats.
-Hinata needs multiple hits to win, Sakura needs one hit and it doesn't need to be direct.
-Katsuyu just makes it a low-mid diff.
-Hinata's offense outside of blocking her chakra is utterly useless as she can heal from it with ease.

This match was debatable in Hinata's favor when we were still at the beginning of Part 2 to Pain Arc. Not anymore though. It could become debatable again if Hinata post Manga is given the chance to show new feats, but for now? Nah.

Databook is old.
 

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Kurama's seal was made with the intention of letting its chakra into Naruto. The byakugou is sealed off completely. They are different.

> chakra flows back to the body and forcefully opens closed chakra points. They work exactly the same way. Not to mention the fact that Sakura can open the seal without forming any handseal.
 

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> chakra flows back to the body and forcefully opens closed chakra points. They work exactly the same way. Not to mention the fact that Sakura can open the seal without forming any handseal.

Yin Seal has another person sealed inside?
 

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The gentle fist has the ability to target internal organs and close chakra points. Neji only needed to close the points in her arms as that's the only way she could inflict damage. His subsequent strikes were to attack her organs not close her points.

thats exactly what KG said.Only further part he added is you need to close multiple point on anyone's hand to disable chakra flow
> chakra flows back to the body and forcefully opens closed chakra points. They work exactly the same way. Not to mention the fact that Sakura can open the seal without forming any handseal.

you really think you convince someone who spams bs despite knowing he is wrong
 
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Yin Seal has another person sealed inside?

No one has ever said the chakra has to come from a different being. All we know chakra from an external source can forcefully reopen sealed chakra points.
 

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Databook is old.

Yes, it's old, but that gives us a base for a comparison between them and there are no feats that let anyone say that the gap in skill increased in either person's favor.
 

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No one has ever said the chakra has to come from a different being. All we know chakra from an external source can forcefully reopen sealed chakra points.

"Lend me Your Power" - Naruto right before opening the points.

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Yes, it's old, but that gives us a base for a comparison between them and there are no feats that let anyone say that the gap in skill increased in either person's favor.

Air Palm, 64 Palms, The Last feats.
 

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Yes, it's old, but that gives us a base for a comparison between them and there are no feats that let anyone say that the gap in skill increased in either person's favor.

lol he is pointing hinata is hamura reincarnation garbage
Yeah, and Kurama leaked some chakra through the seal

did it not sure
seems like naruto pulled it out himself if u read next page
 

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Yeah, and Kurama leaked some chakra through the seal. Sakura can open her seal willingly .

Not with her points closed. Kurama is different than Naruto. Naruto had his points closed, Kurama didn't.

All of this is speculation anyways.
 

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Air Palm, 64 Palms, The Last feats.

None of these show that the gap in their Taijutsu skill increased in Hinata's favor. They show that Hinata herself got more skilled to some undeterminable degree. Air Palm shouldn't even be mentioned as that has not a thing to do with skill in close combat.
 

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None of these show that the gap in their Taijutsu skill increased in Hinata's favor. They show that Hinata herself got more skilled to some undeterminable degree. Air Palm shouldn't even be mentioned as that has not a thing to do with skill in close combat.

The other two are though. By a good margin too.
 

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Not with her points closed. Kurama is different than Naruto. Naruto had his points closed, Kurama didn't.

All of this is speculation anyways.


@bold This proves nothing at all.

Assuming she is dumb enough to stand in one place for 15 minutes until Hinata closes all her chakra points.
 
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