[VS] Hinata Vs Saukra

[Hammock]

So I decided to this thread due to the constant arguments between Sakura Fans & Hinata Fans and the fact that I would actually watch this fight even if it's by selling my souls to Kishi.

Few things you should know;

Spoiler

• I am going to use facts from both anime and manga with databooks.
• I will first state the ability of both separately then compare.
• This is just my opinion.
• I will try my best to give unbiased information.
• I won't be one sided( since I am not a fan of these too)
• All out battle to the death.

With that done let's carry on.

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Sakura Haruno

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Abilites

• Yin Release
• Yang Release
• Earth Release
• Water Release
• Unncanny Chakra control
• Medical Ninjutsu
• Physical Prowess
• Strength of a Hundred Seal

Other

• Sakura is considered to surpass Tsunade in Part 3 ( The Last)
• She was even considered to be a suitable replacement for Naruto as Hokage by Boruto Uzumaki
• Capable of single-handedly defeating Shin Uchiha by Sasuke.
  

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Hinata Hyuga

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Abilites

• Byakugan
• Gentle Fist
• Gentle Step Twin Lion Fists
• Chakra Prowess
• Fire Release
• Lighting Release

Other

• Hiashi considered her strong enough to protect her cousin, Neji now as much as he protects her.
• Naruto has also praised her strength, recalling how she fought against Pain when he was incapacitated.
• Hinata's taijutsu skills have increased to the point where she can now perform the complete Eight Trigrams Sixty-Four Palms, which she successfully used against one of the Ten-Tails' mini-clones.
• Hinata, having been recognized by Hamura Ōtsutsuki as the Byakugan Princess, proves to be crucial in the destruction of the Tenseigan.

Comparision
Byakugan's ability to see opponent's chakra pathway system and their unique ability to expel chakra from any point on their body.Hinata can cause severe internal trauma with minimal external force as it uses a surgical injection of chakra into sakura's chakra network to cause damage, initially destroying her chakra points.
However, this won't take any effects as Creation Rebirth allows Sakura to a creation of new ones through division which means her vital organs are so gravely injured that it cannot bear it any longer will be instantly restored to its uninjured state.
Also by Tsunade's own claim, as long as she has chakra it is impossible for her to die by any means, as such she gains a form of "immortality" throughout the duration of the technique and the fact Sakura has more stamina and chakra control than Hinata Sakura can use this until she's worn out or so.But the fact that Sakura would in critical condition mean in the fact she can't land a critical hit in Hinata to finish off.
To conclude,At the end would be a tie since Sakura can keep regenerating until she's completely off and it would be hard for her to land a hit due to the fact Hinata can intercept it by Eight Trigrams technique and gentle fist and Hinata would be just losing chakra constantly as mention before thus resulting a tie.

*Prepares for critics from both fanbases*​

 

[BLAZE]

Sakura punches hinata dies

Her feats are equivalent to to LB's comprehension skill aka tending to zero

Her speed feats is literally zero throughout the manga the reason you see her fanbase blabbering stupid shit like hiruzen is faster than sasuke.A better comparision of her will be against part 1 neji and part 1 neji still has potrayal and feats

 

[Exaar]

Part 1 Hinata > Part 1 Sakura.
Early Part 2 Hinata >/= Early part 2 Sakura.
War arc hinata < War arc sakura.

Also gentle fist would shutdown Tsunade/Sakura's both their abilities to control chakra (meaning preforming medical ninjutsu will be far harder than normal if not near impossible due to the strict chakra control requirements) and their ability to regeneration simply because again if they can't control their chakra they cannot heal and the fact chakra cannot flow through their body once their points are pressed thus removing their ability to stimulate proteins in their body which causes their cells to divide at an accelerated rate.

Sakura simply has too much destructive power for war arc hinata to deal with or for hinata to get close her.

 

[HyuugaHeir]

Comparision
Byakugan's ability to see opponent's chakra pathway system and their unique ability to expel chakra from any point on their body.Hinata can cause severe internal trauma with minimal external force as it uses a surgical injection of chakra into sakura's chakra network to cause damage, initially destroying her chakra points.
However, this won't take any effects as Creation Rebirth allows Sakura to a creation of new ones through division which means her vital organs are so gravely injured that it cannot bear it any longer will be instantly restored to its uninjured state.
Also by Tsunade's own claim, as long as she has chakra it is impossible for her to die by any means, as such she gains a form of "immortality" throughout the duration of the technique and the fact Sakura has more stamina and chakra control than Hinata Sakura can use this until she's worn out or so.But the fact that Sakura would in critical condition mean in the fact she can't land a critical hit in Hinata to finish off.
To conclude,At the end would be a tie since Sakura can keep regenerating until she's completely off and it would be hard for her to land a hit due to the fact Hinata can intercept it by Eight Trigrams technique and gentle fist and Hinata would be just losing chakra constantly as mention before thus resulting a tie.

*Prepares for critics from both fanbases*​

How can Creation Rebirth flow through damaged chakra vessels and sealed chakra points.

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By releasing the great volume of chakra stored in the users forehead at once, the body's cell division is forcibly stimulated by proteins, reconstructing all organs and all tissues making up the human body. The technique itself does not regenerate the old cells, rather it hastens the creation of new ones through division. If this technique is used, a body whose vital organs are so gravely injured that it cannot bear it any longer will be instantly restored to its uninjured state.

It only regenerates organs and tissues. I'm not sure how it deals with the chakra pathway system. Jyuuken also injures internal organs, so I see how Creation Rebirth works in that situation, but how can Sakura reopen closed tenketsus. Hinata will disrupt her chakra control over and over again that is if she bypass Sakura's deadly punches.

The rest, I agree.

 

[BLAZE]

Early Part 2 Hinata >/= Early part 2 Sakura.

Early part 2 hinata is literally featless.Even if you give her TLF her best feat would be getting shitted on by part 1 neji.

 

[Hammock]

How can Creation Rebirth flow through damaged chakra vessels and sealed chakra points.

Spoiler

By releasing the great volume of chakra stored in the users forehead at once, the body's cell division is forcibly stimulated by proteins, reconstructing all organs and all tissues making up the human body. The technique itself does not regenerate the old cells, rather it hastens the creation of new ones through division. If this technique is used, a body whose vital organs are so gravely injured that it cannot bear it any longer will be instantly restored to its uninjured state.

It only regenerates organs and tissues. I'm not sure how it deals with the chakra pathway system. Jyuuken also injures internal organs, so I see how Creation Rebirth works in that situation, but how can Sakura reopen closed tenketsus. Hinata will disrupt her chakra control over and over again that is if she bypass Sakura's deadly punches.

The rest, I agree.

Naruto did it so i dont see a problem?

 

[Exaar]

Naruto did it so i dont see a problem?

Different though.
Naruto had a separate entity inside of him, Kurama could still mold and use his chakra freely as his ability to control/mold chakra is completely independent of naruto.

If tsunade/sakura can't control or even use chakra, how are they going to use chakra to reopen their pressed points in the first place?.

 

[HyuugaHeir]

Naruto did it so i dont see a problem?

Kurama=/=Creation Rebirth
Kurama leaks his chakra. Creation Rebirth uses user's chakra to regenerate damaged organs.
As far as I comprehend it, Kurama is a separate entity unlike the Byakugou seal which is still under the user's freedom and control.
Same case with genjutsu. Kurama breaks genjutsu bec he has a separate consciousness. Does Byakugou even talk? Tsunade fell victim to Madara's genjutsu. Who freed her? Ohnoki. Ohnoki freed her.

Upto this time, no one has ever convinced anyone that Byakugou can reopen sealed tenketsus.

 

[BLAZE]

Kurama=/=Creation Rebirth
Kurama leaks his chakra. Creation Rebirth uses user's chakra to regenerate damaged organs.
As far as I comprehend it, Kurama is a separate entity unlike the Byakugou seal which is still under the user's freedom and control.
Same case with genjutsu. Kurama breaks genjutsu bec he has a separate consciousness. Does Byakugou even talk? Tsunade fell victim to Madara's genjutsu. Who freed her? Ohnoki. Ohnoki freed her.

Upto this time, no one has ever convinced anyone that Byakugou can reopen sealed tenketsus.

Actually nope.The Sohs forms a separate reserve of chakra.It has nothing to do with users current reserve.
Sakura used it when she had very less chakra left.Tsunade used way against oro.The entity thing is true

@bold nope it does not but bold is not true.it NVR happened

 

[Hammock]

Different though.
Naruto had a separate entity inside of him, Kurama could still mold and use his chakra freely as his ability to control/mold chakra is completely independent of naruto.

If tsunade/sakura can't control or even use chakra, how are they going to use chakra to reopen their pressed points in the first place?.

Kurama=/=Creation Rebirth
Kurama leaks his chakra. Creation Rebirth uses user's chakra to regenerate damaged organs.
As far as I comprehend it, Kurama is a separate entity unlike the Byakugou seal which is still under the user's freedom and control.
Same case with genjutsu. Kurama breaks genjutsu bec he has a separate consciousness. Does Byakugou even talk? Tsunade fell victim to Madara's genjutsu. Who freed her? Ohnoki. Ohnoki freed her.

Upto this time, no one has ever convinced anyone that Byakugou can reopen sealed tenketsus.

Oh fair point , my bad i am sorry. But I am 100% Katsuyu can do it ? since she literally healed everyone who was damaged in a lot of different ways in 4th shinobi worldwar. All i know is it would be a tie since they both low-mid tier(better than fodders tho) Ninjas.

 

[Hakke]

Sakura beats her with a moderate difficulty at worse.

but Hinata beats her in Close Combat though. the Gentle fist can disable the CES easily.

"b-b-but she needs to land many hits to block the Chakra points while Sakura only needs one hit so she wins"

NO, she can disable it by injecting Chakra (Jyuken) to the Chakra streaming (Chakra network) in Sakura's arm which would disrupt the Chakra control thus disabling the CES. we all know that the CES require a precise Chakra control something that the user won't be able to pull off if his Chakra network is damaged.

but that method will only disable the CES as long the Jyuken user palm is in contact with his arm, the CES user will still be able to channel Chakra and make his fist powerful again. so it is necessary to block the Chakra points. However, Hinata can parry Sakura's CES attacks with the Gentle fist by parrying Sakura's sidearm with her palm. so each time Sakura throw a punch, while Hinata is parrying her attacks, she can block several Chakra points to prevent her from channeling Chakra again and disabling her CES completely.

and she has also the Twin Lion Gentle Fist technique which is basically a stronger form of the basic Gentle Fist with more destructive damage and larger reach and has the ability to drain Chakra. once Sakura's fist make contact with the Twin Lion Chakra heads Hinata can inject or drain Chakra (either way would disrupt the Chakra control) and her CES would be disabled so her attacks would be rendered ineffective.

so Hinata can use the Twin Lion Chakra heads to shield herself. just look at the size of it

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you can see that a one lion Chakra head covered most of her body. no way Sakura is going to land a direct hit.

but I can see her winning comfortably if she kept herself at a safe distance and punched the ground

 

[HyuugaHeir]

Actually nope.The Sohs forms a separate reserve of chakra.It has nothing to do with users current reserve.
Sakura used it when she had very less chakra left.Tsunade used way against oro.The entity thing is true

@bold nope it does not but bold is not true.it NVR happened

Oh yep my bad, i think it was A who suffered instead. I stand corrected.

On SOHS, sure it is a separate chakra reserve. separate chakra reserve. not entity, not consciousness.
Case Closed under genjutsu.
But for Jyuuken hits, I ponder if the Byakugou user can still access her separate reserve and force it through sealed tenketsus and damaged chakra vessels, just like Kurama did.

 

[Misо]

Sakura wont be able to touch Hinata.

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[HyuugaHeir]

Oh fair point , my bad i am sorry. But I am 100% Katsuyu can do it ? since she literally healed everyone who was damaged in a lot of different ways in 4th shinobi worldwar. All i know is it would be a tie since they both low-mid tier(better than fodders tho) Ninjas.

Well, she has to summon Katsuyu first before she suffers from chakra point sealing. And sorry my bad, Tsunade wasn't genjutsu'd ever, except from IT.

 

[Hammock]

Sakura wont be able to touch Hinata.

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I mentioned that , reread again thankyou!

 

[Made in Heaven]

Sakura beats her with a moderate difficulty at worse.

but Hinata beats her in Close Combat though. the Gentle fist can disable the CES easily.

"b-b-but she needs to land many hits to block the Chakra points while Sakura only needs one hit so she wins"

NO, she can disable it by injecting Chakra (Jyuken) to the Chakra streaming (Chakra network) in Sakura's arm which would disrupt the Chakra control thus disabling the CES. we all know that the CES require a precise Chakra control something that the user won't be able to pull off if his Chakra network is damaged.

but that method will only disable the CES as long the Jyuken user palm is in contact with his arm, the CES user will still be able to channel Chakra and make his fist powerful again. so it is necessary to block the Chakra points. However, Hinata can parry Sakura's CES attacks with the Gentle fist by parrying Sakura's sidearm with her palm. so each time Sakura throw a punch, while Hinata is parrying her attacks, she can block several Chakra points to prevent her from channeling Chakra again and disabling her CES completely.

and she has also the Twin Lion Gentle Fist technique which is basically a stronger form of the basic Gentle Fist with more destructive damage and larger reach and has the ability to drain Chakra. once Sakura's fist make contact with the Twin Lion Chakra heads Hinata can inject or drain Chakra (either way would disrupt the Chakra control) and her CES would be disabled so her attacks would be rendered ineffective.

so Hinata can use the Twin Lion Chakra heads to shield herself. just look at the size of it

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you can see that a one lion Chakra head covered most of her body. no way Sakura is going to land a direct hit.

but I can see her winning comfortably if she kept herself at a safe distance and punched the ground

Punching the ground doesn't work when the whole alliance jumped that high to avoid it. Not to mention Sakuras falling body can be intercepted and momentum stopped with Air Palm.

 

[BLAZE]

but Hinata beats her in Close Combat though. the Gentle fist can disable the CES easily.

still still spamming BS i see :lol and then you ask why no one takes you seriously.you are spamming same thing over and over failing to proving even a single feat for her speed and reflex in cqc.

CQC is not gonna simply by taijutsu or hand to hand combat only.In pure hand to hand combat hinata beats her while she gets thrashed in cqc.One kick on ground during cqc or one indirect hit anyhow takes her out

Oh yep my bad, i think it was A who suffered instead. I stand corrected.

On SOHS, sure it is a separate chakra reserve. separate chakra reserve. not entity, not consciousness.
Case Closed under genjutsu.
But for Jyuuken hits, I ponder if the Byakugou user can still access her separate reserve and force it through sealed tenketsus and damaged chakra vessels, just like Kurama did.

Opening chakra point does not equals genjutsu release though :lol

 

[Hammock]

Sakura beats her with a moderate difficulty at worse.

but Hinata beats her in Close Combat though. the Gentle fist can disable the CES easily.

"b-b-but she needs to land many hits to block the Chakra points while Sakura only needs one hit so she wins"

NO, she can disable it by injecting Chakra (Jyuken) to the Chakra streaming (Chakra network) in Sakura's arm which would disrupt the Chakra control thus disabling the CES. we all know that the CES require a precise Chakra control something that the user won't be able to pull off if his Chakra network is damaged.

but that method will only disable the CES as long the Jyuken user palm is in contact with his arm, the CES user will still be able to channel Chakra and make his fist powerful again. so it is necessary to block the Chakra points. However, Hinata can parry Sakura's CES attacks with the Gentle fist by parrying Sakura's sidearm with her palm. so each time Sakura throw a punch, while Hinata is parrying her attacks, she can block several Chakra points to prevent her from channeling Chakra again and disabling her CES completely.

and she has also the Twin Lion Gentle Fist technique which is basically a stronger form of the basic Gentle Fist with more destructive damage and larger reach and has the ability to drain Chakra. once Sakura's fist make contact with the Twin Lion Chakra heads Hinata can inject or drain Chakra (either way would disrupt the Chakra control) and her CES would be disabled so her attacks would be rendered ineffective.

so Hinata can use the Twin Lion Chakra heads to shield herself. just look at the size of it

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you can see that a one lion Chakra head covered most of her body. no way Sakura is going to land a direct hit.

but I can see her winning comfortably if she kept herself at a safe distance and punched the ground

Hinata is actually fast to dodge the attacks and i mentioned sakura cant land a hit and hinata would be just going against constantly healing person therefore its a tie! both of them runs out of chakra like naruto and sasuke

 

[Made in Heaven]

Hinata is actually fast to dodge the attacks and i mentioned sakura cant land a hit and hinata would be just going against constantly healing person therefore its a tie! both of them runs out of chakra like naruto and sasuke

Healing can be stopped by blocking her Chakra points.

 

[HyuugaHeir]

Opening chakra point does not equals genjutsu release though :lol

I know. I'm only relating it in respect to Byakugou as a separate reservoir.
Byakugou doesn't free the user from genjutsu (idunno I think I've read it somewhere in NB)
In closed chakra points, Byakugou might reopen them.