Uchiha clan weak without others power

[nk07ki30]

As always when talking trash about the Uchiha you get a storm of dislikes and shit ratings... yeah...

 

[ninjarasengan]

It was stated many times over that she used "that" power to put people inside an infinite tsukuyomi. The manga doesn't need to repeat the word sharingan twice to understand that the object being objected here is the sharingan.

Read the whole thing.



Are you dense?

I guess byukagan's power =/= its byukagan too considering the context of the story too, right?
He said she has the power of the sharingan and byukagan, so do we deny that she actually has a byukagan too since her sharingan is apparently not a sharingan to guys?

Which is weird since it was later said that Infinite Tsukuyomi was Rinnegan Genjutsu.

 

[Holy God]

1. No, they called it a sharingan. Hagoromoo paraphrased the word "sharingan" to "it" in the second sentence.
2. Sasuke never directly called it a rinnegan, that's a lie

1. No he didn't. The subject was the Sharingan's power, not the Sharingan itself. He said the Sharingan's power was a gruesome eye power.

2.

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And this is where you lost it. Arguing the wording from Japanese standards to American phrasing is not up to your discretion.

It is up to my discretion to interpret the phrasing with consideration to the raw just as it is up to you to interpret the statement based on your own bias. Regardless, I've already said even if it did refer to the Byakugan's power, then it would also mean she doesn't necessarily have the Byakugan. This is irrelevant thought because it has been directly stated in both the manga and Databook that she does, whereas it is never stated she has the Sharingan, but rather the Rinnegan by Sasuke and RinneSharingan in the Databook.

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

Which is weird since it was later said that Infinite Tsukuyomi was Rinnegan Genjutsu.

But we know she doesn't have a rinnegan, right?

And there was a time Holy God was arguing with me that the old Madara that was in the cave put kid Obito in an Infinte Tsukyomi genjutsu just because Madara said it was.

People don't get the mechanics behind the technique is all.

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

1. No he didn't. The subject was the Sharingan's power, not the Sharingan itself. He said the Sharingan's power was a gruesome eye power.

No, objectively it was her ocular that is the sharingan that has a gruesome power to put people in IT. But more importantly, I was referring to the statement he made about her using it to cast people into a dream like genjutsu.

2.

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That is no way shape or form direct, especially when Sasuke said "probably." I don't even need the viz translation to correct this one.

It is up to my discretion to interpret the phrasing with consideration to the raw just as it is up to you to interpret the statement based on your own bias. Regardless, I've already said even if it did refer to the Byakugan's power, then it would also mean she doesn't necessarily have the Byakugan. This is irrelevant thought because it has been directly stated in both the manga and Databook that she does, whereas it is never stated she has the Sharingan, but rather the Rinnegan by Sasuke and RinneSharingan in the Databook.

No, it is not up to your discretion because you are irrelevant and bias. I've been post and supporting objectively what the manga has been saying the whole time.
And the datebook did not say rinnesharingan, so you can drop that thing right there because objectively speaking right now, the English made datebook 4 has not been release yet.

I don't care how many translation engine you use to get your point across, I strictly hobby what the page says word for word. And for someone who follows it that way should not be called bias by some guy who said the manga page is wrong, because that is bias.
Everything else you're saying is little pointless retorts that mean nothing to me.

If manga says sharingan and byukagan power, then you are literally nothing to argue otherwise.

 

[HENI]

To the posts that said Sasuke didn't call it a Rinnegan

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[Darth AniCetuS]

As always when talking trash about the Uchiha you get a storm of dislikes and shit ratings... yeah...

That's because Uchiha faps are rustled beyond repair.

 

[Holy God]

No, objectively it was her ocular that is the sharingan that has a gruesome power to put people in IT. But more importantly, I was referring to the statement he made about her using it to cast people into a dream like genjutsu.

No, this is simply sentence structure. "My mother, besides the Byakugan, also possessed the Sharingan's power. It was a gruesome eye power...". The subject of the first sentence is undeniably the Sharingan's power, not the Sharingan itself.

I don't know what sentence you're specifically referring to in the last bit.

That is no way shape or form direct, especially when Sasuke said "probably." I don't even need the viz translation to correct this one.

He said "A genjutsu created by a Rinnegan...". The visual technique is Infinite Tsukuyomi and the "Rinnegan" is the eye used to cast it. "Probably" was not used in reference to that, it was used in reference to whether or not another Rinnegan can cancel the technique.

No, it is not up to your discretion because you are irrelevant and bias. I've been post and supporting objectively what the manga has been saying the whole time.
And the datebook did not say rinnesharingan, so you can drop that thing right there because objectively speaking right now, the English made datebook 4 has not been release yet.

I don't care how many translation engine you use to get your point across, I strictly hobby what the page says word for word. And for someone who follows it that way should not be called bias by some guy who said the manga page is wrong, because that is bias.
Everything else you're saying is little pointless retorts that mean nothing to me.

If manga says sharingan and byukagan power, then you are literally nothing to argue otherwise.

The manga does say Sharingan's power, and I agree with that.

Just because you can't comprehend the Databook does not mean it doesn't say what it does. You can call me bias and irrelevant all you want, but when someone like you who uses (4th) Databook translations when they're beneficial and then testifies against them when they oppose you, I can't take you seriously.

 

[Warlocks]

sauke/madara is reincarnation of Indra Otsutsuki

 

[Made in Heaven]

People still trying to claim the RinneSharingan isn't a RinneSharingan?

 

[Mori Jin]

No, this is simply sentence structure. "My mother, besides the Byakugan, also possessed the Sharingan's power. It was a gruesome eye power...". The subject of the first sentence is undeniably the Sharingan's power, not the Sharingan itself.

I don't know what sentence you're specifically referring to in the last bit.




He said "A genjutsu created by a Rinnegan...". The visual technique is Infinite Tsukuyomi and the "Rinnegan" is the eye used to cast it. "Probably" was not used in reference to that, it was used in reference to whether or not another Rinnegan can cancel the technique.



The manga does say Sharingan's power, and I agree with that.

Just because you can't comprehend the Databook does not mean it doesn't say what it does. You can call me bias and irrelevant all you want, but when someone like you who uses (4th) Databook translations when they're beneficial and then testifies against them when they oppose you, I can't take you seriously.

Ignore him the guy needs to learn how to comprehend simple english text.

 

[Mori Jin]

Rikudou Tobi back at it again with his retardness

 

[Mori Jin]

What's the most powerful they can get without outside power? MS. But those eyes would lose the light once they use it too much and seeing as they can't swap eyes and don't have Hashiramas cells they'll stay blind. Even though 3 Tomoe is highest most can go, cause MS is rare.

 

[sayian]

Uchihas were clan who survived on handouts. They stole other's powers even killed their own clansmen, used unfair means to get stronger and sharingan is their biggest cheating tool.
Yet they lost almost every time is proof enough of how weak they were.
Itachi was the only exception.

OP: Totally agree. 10/10 thread.

it's true. lol No offense to uchiha fans but how low do you have to go to bite off another man's flesh for power #madara

itachi with his own power had to get some plot aids and still hold back just to "lose" to sasuke.

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

Rikudou Tobi back at it again with his retardness

He's the dumbest uchiha fap around with the stupidest theories lol.

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

No, this is simply sentence structure. "My mother, besides the Byakugan, also possessed the Sharingan's power. It was a gruesome eye power...". The subject of the first sentence is undeniably the Sharingan's power, not the Sharingan itself.

I don't know what sentence you're specifically referring to in the last bit.

Not making much sense her. So I'll just entertain your game here.
The gruesome power(which is not in viz anyways) referring to the sharingan' power is the power that Hagoromoo literally just said she possesses right?
You cannot possses the power of the sharingan without having the sharingan itself, do you realize how dumb it sounds to cast an ocular doujutsu with no doujutsu at all?

In fact here:

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He said "A genjutsu created by a Rinnegan...". The visual technique is Infinite Tsukuyomi and the "Rinnegan" is the eye used to cast it. "Probably" was not used in reference to that, it was used in reference to whether or not another Rinnegan can cancel the technique.

Wrong. He said "rinnegan genjutsu can be dealt with using a rinnegan. Probably."

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It's clear that he's guessing that a rinnegan genjutsu (IT) can be countered by another person with a rinnegan.
And even then, he did not say that a rinnesharingan genjutsu can be dealt with using a rinnegan. Which doesn't help your point.

The manga does say Sharingan's power, and I agree with that.

Just because you can't comprehend the Databook does not mean it doesn't say what it does. You can call me bias and irrelevant all you want, but when someone like you who uses (4th) Databook translations when they're beneficial and then testifies against them when they oppose you, I can't take you seriously.

Exactly what do you comprehend from the databook exactly? Using a translation engine does not mean you comprehend the word coherently, it means you seek to translate a word that you have no comphrehension of in the first place.
Japanese is not your first language and you following your translatied raw text IS bias.
Realistically speaking the official (because note that you are not official) translated databook text has yet to come out yet.

And a note of advice to you my dear hypocrite. Don't patronize me in using texts to me advantage when you previously argued with me that a sharingan user old Madara used Infinte Tsukuyomi on kid Obito, just to support a feat you claimed he had for the sake of Madara.

The very difference between you and me is that I use multiple source. I'll use the fanmade translation no doubt, but I'll support that with an actual viz translated official manga page to make my answer a fact and not opinionated. And you know this .

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

Rikudou Tobi back at it again with his retardness

Look at the retarded clown come now. Please talk more about the byukagan beats the sharingan you pleb. I wasted your ass in the last thread.

He's the dumbest uchiha fap around with the stupidest theories lol.

A retard that called the manga a theory
What else is new?

 

[Uchihauzamakibarrage]

Boo your rustle attempts are garbage. Just give up

 

[SenseiSama]

Sasuke and Itachi were the top of their class even before they awakened the sharingan or any other such powers.

Yeah except people keep comparing clans as if every Uchiha is born a genius prodigy with Indra's power smh. Most of them didn't possess Sharingan according to Sasuke in part 1. The average Uchiha was on same scale as average Hyuga and Senju. Uzumaki are the real OP clan.

 

[Holy God]

Not making much sense her. So I'll just entertain your game here.
The gruesome power(which is not in viz anyways) referring to the sharingan' power is the power that Hagoromoo literally just said she possesses right?

Yes.

You cannot possses the power of the sharingan without having the sharingan itself, do you realize how dumb it sounds to cast an ocular doujutsu with no doujutsu at all?

It sounds very dumb indeed, however I am not implying that she has no eye techniques (doujutsu), but rather that the RinneSharingan has Sharingan powers. You however have claimed that her eye has Rinnegan powers:

Kaguya's sharingan, juubi's eyes, or rinne sharingan (how ever you want to call it) can use the ocular power of either rinnegan or sharingan. Which I find it unique and it's the only eye to cast the most powerful jutsus.

To reflect your question back to you, how is this possible if she doesn't have the Rinnegan?

Wrong. He said "rinnegan genjutsu can be dealt with using a rinnegan. Probably."

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It's clear that he's guessing that a rinnegan genjutsu (IT) can be countered by another person with a rinnegan.
And even then, he did not say that a rinnesharingan genjutsu can be dealt with using a rinnegan. Which doesn't help your point.

If you use that translation, then it makes the whole thing look like a guess, but it's still the action that he's guessing about, not what the eye is. It's still at worst a close a call as you saying "Sharingan powers" equates to the Sharingan itself. Either way, it does not worsen my point, because neither Hagoromo nor Sasuke should know what it's called, because Kaguya was the first one with the eye and thus if she does not name it, and there is no agreed upon term for it, we must rely on something "omnipotent", that being the Databook.

Exactly what do you comprehend from the databook exactly? Using a translation engine does not mean you comprehend the word coherently, it means you seek to translate a word that you have no comphrehension of in the first place.
Japanese is not your first language and you following your translatied raw text IS bias.
Realistically speaking the official (because note that you are not official) translated databook text has yet to come out yet.

And a note of advice to you my dear hypocrite. Don't patronize me in using texts to me advantage when you previously argued with me that a sharingan user old Madara used Infinte Tsukuyomi on kid Obito, just to support a feat you claimed he had for the sake of Madara.

The very difference between you and me is that I use multiple source. I'll use the fanmade translation no doubt, but I'll support that with an actual viz translated official manga page to make my answer a fact and not opinionated. And you know this .

You misunderstand. The only reason why I used an "engine" is so that people don't have to just take my word for it. I can read it without using such a thing. Now, I can see how you may interpret it as bias if it is something like an entire section or even a sentence, but when it's just a single word that cannot be interpreted in any other way, then it's just pure facts. You can easily look at a

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and get a clear answer.

And how is that hypocritical? Yes, Madara used Infinite Tsukuyomi with a Sharingan on Obito. What does that have to do with this? I am not saying such a thing is impossible.