lol boy itachi drops base minato even with 3t.XD that bottom part made me laugh hard asf
Itachi weak aaa wouldn't even have MS if it wasn't for Shisui aka his daddy XD
lol boy itachi drops base minato even with 3t.XD that bottom part made me laugh hard asf
Itachi weak aaa wouldn't even have MS if it wasn't for Shisui aka his daddy XD
So itachi's ms is shishui's jutsu nowXD that bottom part made me laugh hard asf
Itachi weak aaa wouldn't even have MS if it wasn't for Shisui aka his daddy XD
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MS isn't a jutsu :|So itachi's ms is shishui's jutsu now
U mad aka shisui's MS and sages weaponsOh look, even this fanfic picture has minato relying on someone elses power :lol
Nah because even without those he still beats minato without ftg.MS isn't a jutsu :|
U mad aka shisui's MS and sages weapons
Yes it isMS isn't a jutsu
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Lol wtf are you talking. I am giving you examples of people fighting without eye contact and that it can be done. Madara did it, Naruto did it and Gai can do that. I know RSM grants universal understanding so what of it. But at least you agree that sensors can fight without eye contact. So ok. So Minato too can do it with is sensry abilities and even better using fusion SM.Because like Asuma said, Gai trained for it in which they didn't.
>Minato did not train like Gai to fight without eye contact
>Rsm naruto's sagemode gives him universal understanding and sensing. Did you also forget naruto can sense negative emotions too?
Yep and Madara too was a sensor even before gaining SM to my point is still valid.Well I'm not him, so my point still stands with blind madara fighting before achieving sagemode.
Lol, if the opponent is not able to cast any visual genjutsu then why should Naruto avoid eye contact and what can his eyes see when his opponent in invisible.My point is that the clones and madara himself made contact with him regardless. Having sagemode doesn't mean you can fight without making eye contact with your opponent. He needs to use his eyes, he needed it against Madara himself.
I asked for scans to prove that and not what you think.He can't cast a genjutsu because of how much chakra he's already using to control kurama for that short period of time.
Lel the first is an FTG barrier technique and the second scan he had already teleported. I asked for before teleporting using FTG.You must be registered for see images
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So MS is necessary to perform Izanami?Itachi used his MS to preform the jutsu
Nah I posted a picture of him breaking out of it wihout any problem.You posted a picture of him using it the first time.
Make a thread and explain to everyone.What was so hard for you to understand the first time?
I don't need to. He has the affinity and he can use the jutsus if he needs to.Again, name one jutsu.
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No.Lol wtf are you talking. I am giving you examples of people fighting without eye contact and that it can be done. Madara did it, Naruto did it and Gai can do that. I know RSM grants universal understanding so what of it. But at least you agree that sensors can fight without eye contact. So ok. So Minato too can do it with is sensry abilities and even better using fusion SM.
So was this guy and still got caughtYep and Madara too was a sensor even before gaining SM to my point is still valid.
Bold part: Because he didn't. Limbo clones still made contact with his eyes while naruto was left with nothing to see at all.Lol, if the opponent is not able to cast any visual genjutsu then why should Naruto avoid eye contact and what can his eyes see when his opponent in invisible.
I already posted the scan, now it's up to you to read it or not. If you choose not to then that's your damage not mine.I asked for scans to prove that and not what you think.
No, you asked for scans of minato weaving signs for ftg in which i provided. I don't need anymore excuses. The second minato already weaved that one hand seal before he teleported. It wouldn't make sense for him to weave it after he used a jutsu, that's not how casting jutsus work. You're getting desperate again.Lel the first is an FTG barrier technique and the second scan he had already teleported. I asked for before teleporting using FTG.
I'm not gonna spell it twice for youSo MS is necessary to perform Izanami?
You posted a picture of him still inside the genjutsu. So you're wrong again.Nah I posted a picture of him breaking out of it wihout any problem.
NoMake a thread and explain to everyone.
I'll take this next one as conceding as well.I don't need to. He has the affinity and he can use the jutsus if he needs to.
What no. You're denying obvious logic and mangafacts. Sure even SM Minato's sensory abilities can't be compared to RSM Naruto but then again Minato won't be fighting an invisible opponent and Madara was able to use Hashi's SM to sense and fight his opponents.No.
And why are you comparing Rsm naruto's sagemode to minato's sagemode? Rsm sagemode has superior highest level of sensing compared to anyone else. And even when naruto was fighting the Limbo clones, he was still in the line of eyesight to the clones.You must be registered for see images
They're both looking directly at each other, and if genjutsu naruto was susceptible to visual genjutsu in that form he would've been done for. So you can't even compare the two.You must be registered for see images
Cee was in a supporting role and wasn't expecting Sasuke to target him. He was clearly taken by surprise. Go read the chapter again instead of your outdated DB lol. Bringing in that fodder who Sasuke will wreck in seconds even if he fought only using his sensory abilities is beyond stupid.Heck, Raikage's body guard is a sensor and Sasuke still put his ass in a genjutsu making him unable to counter it.
So was this guy and still got caught
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And your point is what exactly?Bold part: Because he didn't. Limbo clones still made contact with his eyes while naruto was left with nothing to see at all.
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But not what I asked for. I'll give you another chance.I already posted the scan, now it's up to you to read it or not. If you choose not to then that's your damage not mine.
Read my post again, I specifically mentioned before FTG. I am waiting. I am not getting desperate but I am enjoy these fail arguments and scans. Why do you think I am even replying to such weak logic? Cuz this stupidity is amusing to read.No, you asked for scans of minato weaving signs for ftg in which i provided. I don't need anymore excuses. The second minato already weaved that one hand seal before he teleported. It wouldn't make sense for him to weave it after he used a jutsu, that's not how casting jutsus work. You're getting desperate again.
ofc you won't cuz you're scared that you'll get rekt again lol.I'm not gonna spell it twice for you
You posted a picture of him still inside the genjutsu. So you're wrong again.
Common it'll be fun.
I'll take this comment as proof of your poor reasoning skills.I'll take this next one as conceding as well.
You still comparing Minato's Sm to Hashi's SM? :sdo:What no. You're denying obvious logic and mangafacts. Sure even SM Minato's sensory abilities can't be compared to RSM Naruto but then again Minato won't be fighting an invisible opponent and Madara was able to use Hashi's SM to sense and fight his opponents.
Then why are you using rsm naruto as an example and retort of sagemode being able to avoiding visual genjutsu in the first place then? What kind of stupid logic is that?Is this a joke? Madara didn't have a genjutsu at the time so why would Naruto avoid eye contact. Lol, Sasuke had rinnegan genjutsu not to mention probably EMS genjutsu as well and even he didn't cast it one Naruto.
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Yes, because the supporting role casting a genjutsu on Sasuke is no means whatsoever engaging Sasuke in a fight. Don't patronize me about rereading here and take a look yourself because it's stupid of you to think the only thing he was doing all day was sensing. They all were going after Sasuke end of story. Whether he's weak against a genjutsu artist or not, he still is a powerful sensor that got caught in a genjutsu. You act like Minato has displayed such high level sensing skills during battle. He only sensed right before he was about to fight like in gaiden or when he was discussing with the kages.Cee was in a supporting role and wasn't expecting Sasuke to target him. He was clearly taken by surprise. Go read the chapter again instead of your outdated DB lol. Bringing in that fodder who Sasuke will wreck in seconds even if he fought only using his sensory abilities is beyond stupid.
Sensing doesn't mean shit, get that through your head already.And your point is what exactly?
Like I said, you're damage not mine. Pay attention next time.But not what I asked for. I'll give you another chance.
That signs are weaved right before you need to use a jutsu. That one hand seal Minato made is used right before he teleported, not during the teleportation because he is being transported instantly. This desperate trolling is you being an incompetent moron.Read my post again, I specifically mentioned before FTG. I am waiting. I am not getting desperate but I am enjoy these fail arguments and scans. Why do you think I am even replying to such weak logic? Cuz this stupidity is amusing to read.
In order for it to happen again there would need to be a first time. :lol weak ass retort.ofc you won't cuz you're scared that you'll get rekt again lol.
:| Because the black flames around danzo is not a genjutsu.
You refusing to show proof is me lacking reasoning skills? Very ironic.I'll take this comment as proof of your poor reasoning skills.
Yes and yes.You still comparing Minato's Sm to Hashi's SM? :sdo:
You telling me that SM Hashirama can fight blind to with no use of his eyes now?![]()
I am giving examples of sensors fighting relying only on their sensing ability smh. Sage mode enables the user to fight avoiding eye contact by just sensing and perceiving where the enemy is. How hard is that to understand?Then why are you using rsm naruto as an example and retort of sagemode being able to avoiding visual genjutsu in the first place then? What kind of stupid logic is that?
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And as far as naruto knows, he is not aware if Madara can cast a genjutsu or not.
Cee was going after Sasuke how? And you do need to read the chapter instead of posting your dumbass logic cuz Darui specifically asked Cee to scan for Karin and leave the fighting to Ay and Darui. And why didn't Sasuke cast his genjutsu on Ay instead of getting almost rekt and chose Cee when genjutsu clearly one shots...Yes, because the supporting role casting a genjutsu on Sasuke is no means whatsoever engaging Sasuke in a fight. Don't patronize me about rereading here and take a look yourself because it's stupid of you to think the only thing he was doing all day was sensing. They all were going after Sasuke end of story. Whether he's weak against a genjutsu artist or not, he still is a powerful sensor that got caught in a genjutsu. You act like Minato has displayed such high level sensing skills during battle. He only sensed right before he was about to fight like in gaiden or when he was discussing with the kages.
That is sig worthy stupidity right there...Sensing doesn't mean shit, get that through your head already.
So you can't give the scans cuz there are none. Alright hold this L then.Like I said, you're damage not mine. Pay attention next time.
So show me he weaved it before he teleported or hold another L.That signs are weaved right before you need to use a jutsu. That one hand seal Minato made is used right before he teleported, not during the teleportation because he is being transported instantly. This desperate trolling is you being an incompetent moron.
First you argue contract seals breaks visual genjutsu and now sensing counters visual genjutsu, what kind of stupid fuckery is that? You look like an idiot.
So confident....why not create a thread then..In order for it to happen again there would need to be a first time. :lol weak ass retort.
And the next panel they were gone and Sasuke's movement was restricted.:| Because the black flames around danzo is not a genjutsu.
I already gave you proof...its not my problem that you lack the reasoning and deductions skills to understand even such obvious things.You refusing to show proof is me lacking reasoning skills? Very ironic.
Yes and yes.
You just said naruto didn't need to avoid eye contact because Madara couldn't cast a genjutsu, so why would you use rsm naruto as example when he was never shown avoiding eye contact? You even admit it yourself.I am giving examples of sensors fighting relying only on their sensing ability smh. Sage mode enables the user to fight avoiding eye contact by just sensing and perceiving where the enemy is. How hard is that to understand?
Is this a joke? Madara didn't have a genjutsu at the time so why would Naruto avoid eye contact. Lol, Sasuke had rinnegan genjutsu not to mention probably EMS genjutsu as well and even he didn't cast it one Naruto.
And it doesn't matter whether Naruto knows whether Madara had visual genjutsu or not, Naruto fought Sasuke too who has rinnegan genjutsu and even Sasuke didn't rely on his genjutsu. Because unlike you they are smart and knew it won work on Naruto.
I said Cee engage Sasuke, and evidently the genjutsu he used on him is proof of that, use your head before you start spouting rubbish like an idiot.Cee was going after Sasuke how? And you do need to read the chapter instead of posting your dumbass logic cuz Darui specifically asked Cee to scan for Karin and leave the fighting to Ay and Darui. And why didn't Sasuke cast his genjutsu on Ay instead of getting almost rekt and chose Cee when genjutsu clearly one shots...?
You're an imbecile. This is about the effectiveness of sensing when in the mist of battle. As you can see his sensing meant absolutely nothing to Sasuke.Based on your logic genjutsu one shots but uchiha prefer to get rekt instead of using them lol....that'd make complete sense only to a retard.
Sasuke instantly taking out a sensor before he can sense anything is stupidity? :lol you digress with every moronic post you make. It ain't shit.That is sig worthy stupidity right there...![]()
You refused one and now your dumbass logic says their is none? AmazingSo you can't give the scans cuz there are none. Alright hold this L then.
How stupid. You do realize that he moved off panel right? It's like me asking you to show me page of minato throwing his kunai knife before transporting off page.So show me he weaved it before he teleported or hold another L.
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Curse mark prevented Sasuke from stabbing him while he was in the genjutsu, now show me where Danzo breaks it because Danzo didn't say he broke out of it or use any release hand seals on his genjutsu.And the next panel they were gone and Sasuke's movement was restricted.
There's nothing to deduct when the action is not even there. You cannot reason on a jutsu that has not been seen or seizes to exist. You're obviously an idiot going through the dictionary to sound like you have the slightest idea on what you are talking about.I already gave you proof...its not my problem that you lack the reasoning and deductions skills to understand even such obvious things.
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I guess Hashirama can shut his cornea and turn people to stone with raw energy too huh?
Cuz I was giving an example of him fighting by only sensing the invisible opponents.You just said naruto didn't need to avoid eye contact because Madara couldn't cast a genjutsu, so why would you use rsm naruto as example when he was never shown avoiding eye contact? You even admit it yourself.
This moron finally gets it lol. Anyway you only brought in the visual contact non sense and that's why the scan to bring you back to reality. It seems that worked....:Omg:Naruto didn't even enter Sennin mode yet in that post so that garbage is discredited. On top of that Naruto is a perfect jinchuuriki, why would be use a visual genjutsu on a perfect jinchuuriki? You act like Sasuke never fought Bee before.
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Thanks for doing the research and making my work easy lol. clearly Cee was in the supporting role and Sasuke took him down when he wasn't paying attention to Sasuke but was focused on Jugo's attack on Ay. So what exactly was the point? Your example doesn't even fit right with the discussiI said Cee engage Sasuke, and evidently the genjutsu he used on him is proof of that, use your head before you start spouting rubbish like an idiot.
And despite Darui's efforts in making Cee scout for more people, he insisted in fighting them anyways because suigestu wasn't giving Cee a chance. By the time he even knew it instantly Ay had jugo, suigestu was intercepted by Darui, and Sasuke took out Cee with his genjutsu.You must be registered for see images
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More non sense. As I said he was surprised by Jugo's attack on Ay and wasn't paying attention to Sasuke. This discussion was about sharingan vs sensor fighting one on one not about sharingan attacking the sensor when he was focusing on someone else. So you fail again. Hold another L.You're an imbecile. This is about the effectiveness of sensing when in the mist of battle. As you can see his sensing meant absolutely nothing to Sasuke.
Nope, only you're stupid. Read above.Sasuke instantly taking out a sensor before he can sense anything is stupidity? :lol: you digress with every moronic post you make. It ain't shit.
Tobirama doesn't have SM so another irrelevant example. Sensing comes naturally to SM users and Madara used it quite skillfully.Besides naruto because of rsm, sensors can't evade genjutsus in the middle of battle, it takes a great deal of focus and kneading chakra according to Tobirama.
Refused what. You didn't provide anything relevant to the topic so its garbage by default.You refused one and now your dumbass logic says their is none? Amazing
So you can't provide a scan? Then say so instead of making up fanfics.How stupid. You do realize that he moved off panel right? It's like me asking you to show me page of minato throwing his kunai knife before transporting off page.
Kishi says its not an MS tech. And you're scared cuz you know that if you make a thread you'd be rekt in the first post itself. The L's you took in the last thread..Thread opinion=/=Kishis words. :sdo:
He broke it and then activated the curse mark. I already have posted the scan, are you blind or something?Curse mark prevented Sasuke from stabbing him while he was in the genjutsu, now show me where Danzo breaks it because Danzo didn't say he broke out of it or use any release hand seals on his genjutsu.
Even fodder ninjas were able to do basic earth style technique without requring the affinity for the element, to think that someone would even think that a wind affinity ninja can't do a wind style technique especially when that said ninja is a hokage having excellent chakra control and knowoledge tells you how retarded that person is.There's nothing to deduct when the action is not even there. You cannot reason on a jutsu that has not been seen or seizes to exist. You're obviously an idiot going through the dictionary to sound like you have the slightest idea on what you are talking about.
Says the retard that is comparing naruto's sagemode with hashirama's sage and saying Hashirama can fight with his eyes closed.You really are stupid aren't you?
He didn't close his eyes or avoided the line of sight of the clones so your example is stupid. Naruto fighting Limbo clones was him evading fatal strikes. You think Minato can do the same with his sagemode? Because that switch kick from JJ Madara says otherwise. There's different levels to this sagemode thing.Cuz I was giving an example of him fighting by only sensing the invisible opponents.
Are you retarded?This moron finally gets it lol. Anyway you only brought in the visual contact non sense and that's why the scan to bring you back to reality. It seems that worked....:Omg:
He didn't support anything stupid, he literally said that he didn't want to lose his focus in the middle of battle. He didn't even sense where karin was located like Darui told him to, he just said that he was sure that someone else was already there.Thanks for doing the research and making my work easy lol. clearly Cee was in the supporting role and Sasuke took him down when he wasn't paying attention to Sasuke but was focused on Jugo's attack on Ay. So what exactly was the point? Your example doesn't even fit right with the discussi
More stupidity out of this one.More non sense. As I said he was surprised by Jugo's attack on Ay and wasn't paying attention to Sasuke. This discussion was about sharingan vs sensor fighting one on one not about sharingan attacking the sensor when he was focusing on someone else. So you fail again. Hold another L.
It was garbage excuse, moron.Nope, only you're stupid. Read above.
It is relevant since you're talking about sensing in general. Minato said it took him too long to enter sagemode so by then he'd get one-shot by a visual genjutsu. Madara was moving exactly the same before and after he gained Hashi's sagemode so stop using that excuse, we haven't seen the extent to Hashirama's SM sensing abilities in contrast to the the non sagemode sensing ability from Madara.Tobirama doesn't have SM so another irrelevant example. Sensing comes naturally to SM users and Madara used it quite skillfully.
Because chakra depletion from maintaining the Kyubi is not relevant now huh dumbass?Refused what. You didn't provide anything relevant to the topic so its garbage by default.
You're a moron. Nothing is fanfic when you see Minato already with a sign formed in his hand after completing a transportation jutsu.So you can't provide a scan? Then say so instead of making up fanfics.
No he did not. :|Kishi says its not an MS tech. And you're scared cuz you know that if you make a thread you'd be rekt in the first post itself. The L's you took in the last thread..![]()
Stfu up Danzo didn't break shit. SHOW ME DANZO BREAKING THE GENJUTSU OR KEEP QUITE.He broke it and then activated the curse mark. I already have posted the scan, are you blind or something?
The autistic illiterate retard preaching to me about chakra control and "knowoledge" should give a better excuse than what is implied or suggested as an actual fact. Look here stupid, all i asked is for you to provide one page of minato using wind style. Only one page I asked for, and all of sudden that means I have a poor condition to you. Are you really that much of a retard? Is this all you have? Insults?Even fodder ninjas were able to do basic earth style technique without requring the affinity for the element, to think that someone would even think that a wind affinity ninja can't do a wind style technique especially when that said ninja is a hokage having excellent chakra control and knowoledge tells you how retarded that person is.
Bro you're clearly retarded and I sympathize with your condition. Go see a doctor.
Well Madara did fight using Hashi's sage mode then why can't Hashi lol?Says the retard that is comparing naruto's sagemode with hashirama's sage and saying Hashirama can fight with his eyes closed.
Repeating the same garbage again. I've already countered it.He didn't close his eyes or avoided the line of sight of the clones so your example is stupid. Naruto fight Limbo clones was him evading fatal strikes. You think Minato can't do the same with his sagemode, there's different levels to this sagemode thing.
Terrible terrible stupid example.
Are you retarded?
More garbage. Denying manga fact.....again.He didn't support anything stupid, he literally said that he didn't want to lose his focus in the middle of battle. He didn't sense karin was located like Darui told him to, he just said that he was sure that someone else was already there. He didn't support Ay fighting Jugo and Darui was saving Cee from a blitz from suigestu.
More stupidity out of this one.
It was garbage excuse, moron.
I already said Minato teleports away and then enters SM, I know he can't enter SM in a one on one battle immediately. How was Madara moving bro.It is relevant since you're talking about sensing in general. Minato said it took him too long to enter sagemode so by then he'd get one-shot by a visual genjutsu. Madara was moving exactly the same before and after he gained Hashi's sagemode so stop using that excuse, we haven't seen the extent to Hashirama's SM sensing abilities in contrast to the the non sagemode sensing ability from Madara.
Again he doesn't get the point lol.Because chakra depletion from maintaining the Kyubi is not relevant now huh dumbass?
Yeah it was after not before.You're a moron. Nothing is fanfic when you see Minato already with a sign formed in his hand after completing a transportation jutsu.
Did not what?No he did not. :|
You can't see it bro cuz you're retarded.Stfu up Danzo didn't break shit. SHOW ME DANZO BREAKING THE GENJUTSU OR KEEP QUITE.
Calm down bro.The autistic illiterate retard preaching to me about chakra control and "knowoledge" should give a better excuse than what is implied or suggested as an actual fact. Look here stupid, all i asked is for you to provide one page of minato using wind style. Only one page I asked for, and all of sudden that means I have a poor condition to you. Are you really that much of a retard? Is this all you have? Insults?
Hashirama did fight in the war too and he still needed his eyes open. Especially when he was impaled with 4 rods behind his back despite being a an excellent sensor MInato can never hope to reach up to.Well Madara did fight using Hashi's sage mode then why can't Hashi lol?
Repeating the same garbage again. I've already countered it.
Denied Cee saying he was gonna battle after he just finsihed casting a genjutsu.More garbage. Denying manga fact.....again.
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Bold part: What part of contrast didn't you understand?I already said Minato teleports away and then enters SM, I know he can't enter SM in a one on one battle immediately. How was Madara moving bro.
Troll answer.Again he doesn't get the point lol.
It was not after because minato cannot weave signs during space time movement, it's instant. What kind of dumbass says you weave signs after you casting your ninjutsu?Yeah it was after not before.
Did not say Izanami was not an MS tech. In the manga all he said was that it's a kekkai genkai.Did not what?
So the retard doesn't have any for this one too.You can't see it bro cuz you're retarded.