Why Minato LEGIT Defeats Itachi

[Rikudou Tobi]

He doesn't need to throw his kunai to perform FTG, he can teleport to any of the other seals he has placed at various parts in the world. Like arount Konoha.

In a fight even if he wants to use ftg to whatever location that is already set with a mark, he still needs to make eye contact before the battle begins. So he still gets caught.

Wow so EDO Madara fighting with his rinnegan eyes is the same as him fighting without eyes only relying on sage mode sensory powers.

He didn't have edo eyes, how else was he able to make it to hashirama with sm naruto and Sai in front of his face?

Then show e that limbo clones can cast genjutsu as well. So Naruto made eye contact and yet Madara didn't cast genjutsu which based on your logic one shots. Why?

Madara had his rinnegan activated not his sharingan.

Why didn't Obito use genjutsu when it one shots.

Kyubi manipulation fighting Hiruzen and co.

FTG....

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FTG has nothing to do with weaving signs

Then create one more and prove it.

No, people's opinions are not facts

Lol did you think he didn't?

Could you actually answer the question. Did you see him?

Lets discuss it in a separate thread.

No

Read his elemental affinity at the right side bottom corner. He has wind and DB confirms that, I don't know which outdated DB you refer to.

I sai genjutsu and contact seal being a counter to all ocular genjutsu which you were wrong. I told you that minato has not shown one single wind style jutsu. And the DB doesn't show him using any either.

 

[Tyris]

Please faps... quit with the lowbait+drivel=Minato>ItaSama

1 uchiha child took his wife
1uchiha adult took his arms
He Who Cannot Be Soloed takes his soul negdiff..

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

In a fight even if he wants to use ftg to whatever location that is already set with a mark, he still needs to make eye contact before the battle begins. So he still gets caught.

...what a joke. Why does he needs to make eye contact? Is it some ninja custom lol?

He didn't have edo eyes, how else was he able to make it to hashirama with sm naruto and Sai in front of his face?

Wut...:wut:

Madara had his rinnegan activated not his sharingan.

Lol then what was the point of bringing up the eye contact point when you yourself countered your own argument.

Kyubi manipulation fighting Hiruzen and co.

Can you provide a scan or databook fact that states sharingan user can't use genjutsu when they're controlling a bijuu using contract seal?

FTG has nothing to do with weaving signs

Exactly.

No, people's opinions are not facts

Your's is right lol?

Could you actually answer the question. Did you see him?

Yes I saw him.

No

Why so scared? You have your DB scans and Itachi's himself using Izanami in MS mode. You can even quote me again saying this guy thinks Izanami is not a MS technique.

I sai genjutsu and contact seal being a counter to all ocular genjutsu which you were wrong. I told you that minato has not shown one single wind style jutsu. And the DB doesn't show him using any either.

Well does it matter. He has the affinity as shown in the DB so he just need to know the seal to cast the jutsu.

 

[Amenotejikara]

Doesn't need to.Raikage's uses brute strength minato does not

What the hell does this have to do with this topic? If minato shunshin is slower than raikages top speed when the latter needed it to evade amaterasu obviously that means minato's shunshin can not run out of the way. it's common sense.

there would be multiple frogs not one and minato can summon them right above itachi so no chance of genjutsu
him using amaterasu would mean he only be wasting his chakra
uh nope considering minato is Hokage and shadow clone user he he gets access to multiple shadow clown jutsu.which means he can prolong the fight and it itachi is not fending him without susanoo

lol considering kakashi genjutsu two targets at once, i'm pretty confident itachi out of all gen users can as well. Same with the amaterasu, itachi been shown to lite up two targets at once then quickly use the 3rd one on the bird he was on, and I highly doubt it'd be as taxing despite the exaggerated low stamina you claim there to be.

"hokage", like that useless title means anything. Jiraiya was candidate as 5th hokage yet still faced itachi one on one.

Obito was never able to catch him in genjutsu in whole fight so don't know why are you bringing this

Obito never tried to use genjutsu on minato. don't bring it up? why because it shows exactly how minato would initiate his fights without intel on uchihas? case in point. Itachi sets up his canonically genjutsu strategy. minato get's caught. GG. if minato somehow avoids then uses his FTG, itachi follows up with susanoo to block his ftg-rasengan then follows up amaterasu. since minato obviously without intel didn't spread his kunai's everywhere or tag anyone he dies. quite simple.

 

[BLAZE]

Wut...:wut:

he didn't have eyes or sm when striking sm naruto and sai if that is what you guys are talking about [

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What the hell does this have to do with this topic? If minato shunshin is slower than raikages top speed when the latter needed it to evade amaterasu obviously that means minato's shunshin can not run out of the way. it's common sense.

FTG
he gets oneshotted without it

lol considering kakashi genjutsu two targets at once, i'm pretty confident itachi out of all gen users can as well. Same with the amaterasu, itachi been shown to lite up two targets at once then quickly use the 3rd one on the bird he was on, and I highly doubt it'd be as taxing despite the exaggerated low stamina you claim there to be.

Yes itachi can but he need to genjutsu multiple frogs that can jump very high and keep their distance from him
yes he can which means he would be wasting his chakra.Amatersu is one of the most chakra taxing jutsu the reason itachi used it only once against sasuke and jiraiya

he has 2.5 in stamina thats same as base sakura.He is far skilled in cc thus he wastes little chakra while performing most of his jutsu not the case with amaterasu which is backlash to him along with loss of chakra

"hokage", like that useless title means anything. Jiraiya was candidate as 5th hokage yet still faced itachi one on one.

read what i said

Obito never tried to use genjutsu on minato. don't bring it up? why because it shows exactly how minato would initiate his fights without intel on uchihas? case in point.

yes i can since the fight happened in canon and obito is one of the best 3T genjutsu user

Itachi sets up his canonically genjutsu strategy. minato get's caught. GG. if minato somehow avoids then uses his FTG, itachi follows up with susanoo to block his ftg-rasengan then follows up amaterasu. since minato obviously without intel didn't spread his kunai's everywhere or tag anyone he dies. quite simple.

minato can summon toads on his shoulder that would work as partners to counter genjutsu
The fight is ending up in minato outlasting since Itachi won't be able to hit him

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

he didn't have eyes or sm when striking sm naruto and sai if that is what you guys are talking about [

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Well good point but Madara already had sensing abilities and he was also aware of Naruto and Sai's position before coming back to life and I believe that's enough for someone like Madara to perform such feat. And Hashirama's SM enhanced that ability even further.

 

[BLAZE]

Well good point but Madara already had sensing abilities and he was also aware of Naruto and Sai's position before coming back to life and I believe that's enough for someone like Madara to perform such feat. And Hashirama's SM enhanced that ability even further.

or maybe becoz he is madara since half the feats he performed after that don't make sense.but yeah maybe

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

or maybe becoz he is madara since half the feats he performed after that don't make sense.but yeah maybe

Yup..

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

...what a joke. Why does he needs to make eye contact? Is it some ninja custom lol?

How the fuck does he fight someone without making eye contact? It's common sense. :sdo:

Wut...:wut:

He still fought his way towars hashi before absorbing his senjutsu while being blind.

Lol then what was the point of bringing up the eye contact point when you yourself countered your own argument.

I didn't counter myself. My point is that sensors cn get caught in a genjutsu upon eye contact and there has been many times RSM naruto (the best sensor) made numerous eye contact against Madara in their fight.

Can you provide a scan or databook fact that states sharingan user can't use genjutsu when they're controlling a bijuu using contract seal?

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Exactly.

You need to weave signs in order for you to cast a ninjutsu. Now you're trolling

Your's is right lol?

I didn't have an opinion on the MS being used.

Yes I saw him.

Prove it and post the page.

Why so scared? You have your DB scans and Itachi's himself using Izanami in MS mode. You can even quote me again saying this guy thinks Izanami is not a MS technique.

What was not stated to be and Itachi used MS.

Well does it matter. He has the affinity as shown in the DB so he just need to know the seal to cast the jutsu.

So no proof is what you're saying?

 

[Amenotejikara]

How the fuck does he fight someone without making eye contact? It's common sense. :sdo:

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He still fought his way towars hashi before absorbing his senjutsu while being blind.





I didn't counter myself. My point is that sensors cn get caught in a genjutsu upon eye contact and there has been many times RSM naruto (the best sensor) made numerous eye contact against Madara in their fight.

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You need to weave signs in order for you to cast a ninjutsu. Now you're trolling


I didn't have an opinion on the MS being used.




Prove it and post the page.


What was not stated to be and Itachi used MS.



So no proof is what you're saying?

lol

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[Darth AniCetuS]

How the fuck does he fight someone without making eye contact? It's common sense. :sdo:

Gai can fight without eye contact, Madara fought without eyes and Naruto fought invisible clones and all are manga facts.

He still fought his way towars hashi before absorbing his senjutsu while being blind.

Well I already answered that in my reply to Blaze.

I didn't counter myself. My point is that sensors cn get caught in a genjutsu upon eye contact and there has been many times RSM naruto (the best sensor) made numerous eye contact against Madara in their fight.

So again what's your point? Why would Naruto fight with someone without making eye contact when they can't cast any visual genjutsu?

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What does that even prove. All it says is that Obito won;t be able to maintain his control over Kurama for long. Where does it say that he can't cast genjutsu while having a contract seal genjutsu on Kurama?

You need to weave signs in order for you to cast a ninjutsu. Now you're trolling

How am I trolling? Show me Minato casting a sign before using FTG. Show me Minato can't directly teleport away to a place he already has placed a seal on.

I didn't have an opinion on the MS being used.

So what are you trying to say now?

Prove it and post the page.

I already did. Won't bother again.

What was not stated to be and Itachi used MS.

So does Izanami need MS or not? If you're scared to make a thread then please don't reply and skip this part.

So no proof is what you're saying?

What's there to prove he has wind affinity and its stupid to think that a ninja of Minato's caliber won't even know the seal for single jutsu of the element he has affinity for.

 

[BLAZE]

You need to weave signs in order for you to cast a ninjutsu. Now you're trolling

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[Booker]

On paper it would seem that Itachi wins (vast aresnal of superior jutsu), but realistically, what is he going to do to catch Minato?

If Minato forces Itachi into ANY MS technique, Itachi is going to kill over in a few minutes. Ama is avoided on reaction, Susano'o isn't touching Itachi and will deplete Itachi hella fast.

Tsuk and Genjutsu strats are Itachi's only shot, and I'm not sure how viable they are considering everyone knows the Uchihas are Genjutsu experts.

Minato wins high diff. Too fast for Itachi to keep up with for an extended period of time, once Itachi burns out Minato kills him.

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

Gai can fight without eye contact, Madara fought without eyes and Naruto fought invisible clones and all are manga facts.

Because like Asuma said, Gai trained for it in which they didn't.
>Minato did not train like Gai to fight without eye contact
>Rsm naruto's sagemode gives him universal understanding and sensing. Did you also forget naruto can sense negative emotions too?

Well I already answered that in my reply to Blaze.

Well I'm not him, so my point still stands with blind madara fighting before achieving sagemode.

So again what's your point? Why would Naruto fight with someone without making eye contact when they can't cast any visual genjutsu?

My point is that the clones and madara himself made contact with him regardless. Having sagemode doesn't mean you can fight without making eye contact with your opponent. He needs to use his eyes, he needed it against Madara himself.

What does that even prove. All it says is that Obito won;t be able to maintain his control over Kurama for long. Where does it say that he can't cast genjutsu while having a contract seal genjutsu on Kurama?

He can't cast a genjutsu because of how much chakra he's already using to control kurama for that short period of time.

How am I trolling? Show me Minato casting a sign before using FTG. Show me Minato can't directly teleport away to a place he already has placed a seal on

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So what are you trying to say now?

Itachi used his MS to preform the jutsu

I already did. Won't bother again.

You posted a picture of him using it the first time.

So does Izanami need MS or not? If you're scared to make a thread then please don't reply and skip this part.

What was so hard for you to understand the first time?

What's there to prove he has wind affinity and its stupid to think that a ninja of Minato's caliber won't even know the seal for single jutsu of the element he has affinity for.

Again, name one jutsu.

 

[UnknownJin]

LOL BRATE WTF IS THIS

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- fight needs to be seen to be discussed , Minato isnt just any ordinary ninja ... to be taken lightly

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[Amenotejikara]

LOL BRATE WTF IS THIS

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- fight needs to be seen to be discussed , Minato isnt just any ordinary ninja ... to be taken lightly

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He's nothing without tobirama's FTG.

 

[UnknownJin]

He's nothing without tobirama's FTG.

This is not about FTG -

 

[Im Still Robin]

He's nothing without tobirama's FTG.

What is Itachi without sharingan?

No susanoo, koto, genjutsu, nothing... Minato actually have skills, timing, reflexes, reaction time, and is a genius on the battle field ALL with a jutsu he perfected.

If he had lived only enough to master WRS and sage mode boyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy if u don't stop lying.

 

[Amenotejikara]

What is Itachi without sharingan?

No susanoo, koto, genjutsu, nothing... Minato actually have skills, timing, reflexes, reaction time, and is a genius on the battle field ALL with a jutsu he perfected.

If he had lived only enough to master WRS and sage mode boyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy if u don't stop lying.

Sharingan is itachi :lol nice try thou.

"stop lying" boy, nobody is lying, itachi drops minato without someone elses techniques.

 

[Im Still Robin]

Sharingan is itachi :lol nice try thou.

"stop lying" boy, nobody is lying, itachi drops minato without someone elses techniques.

XD that bottom part made me laugh hard asf

Itachi weak aaa wouldn't even have MS if it wasn't for Shisui aka his daddy XD