Exactly even though now it seems that Moons eye plan may be Madara's main plan but why on earth would he declare it and literally explain it to all the Kages after hiding in the dark for so long even not letting all Akatsuki members his master plan it sounds fishy. May be Madara's has some big ultimate plan up his sleeve which he will show after wards.
yeh i can see that, he definetly is hiding something in his plan or he has a completley different plan. Madara hides lots of things, like his face why would he be wearing a mask if he had nothing to hide. I have a feeling madara is a lot more powerful than hes saying he is
Yes right may be Madara is just bluffing about being weak I mean he may be weak but still is still powerful just like Danzou who we thought was the leader of the ANBU Root so he should be strong but later on we got to know what he was hiding and his real powers so may be Madara still has something up his sleeve.
Dude are you serious there is a lot of difference between Kakashi hiding his face when compared to Madara. We got to see why was Kakashi hiding his face at a very early stage of the manga and it has been quite some time now since we know that the masked guy is Madara so why is he still hiding his face. So its only logical that Madara is hiding something and it may very well have to do either with his identity or his powers.
youre not right bcz orochimaru using some special ritual in another dimension and the foes (minato) is cannot move bcz got some special gaze from white snake skin... when somebody killed the white snake AND ONLY SHARINGAN CAN DEFEAT HIm WITH GENJUTSU
Its a never ending debate because we haven't seen fight each other true but guessing from their abilities and powers it would seem that Minato is stronger than Oro. First and foremost Oro has to weaken his opponent to the limit where his opponent can't move, he was able to do it to Sasuke mainly because they were fighting in a small room so the poison effected Sasuke quickly. In any case even if Oro look at the possibilities. That dimension tech is sort of like a genjutsu where Oro neutralizes his opponents and then he takes over the body but before trying to take over Sasuke's body Oro only took over bodies of "not so strong guys" when he tried to take Sasuke's body his genjutsu was broken by the Sharingan so what if Minato was good with genjutsu. Or other guys who are strong with genjutsu so we don't know. I was talking about Oro attacking but think what might happen if Minato attacks. Minato exceeds Madara in speed which is actually crazy, remember when Sasuke's battle with Itachi was over Madara was the first one to go there where else Zetsu talked about Madara's super speed. So if Minato used FTG the Oro would have been on the defense and knowing how cunning Oro is he would have slithered his way out for that time. So stop telling others blind think about yourself and your comments whether they can be proved. All I said was that the possibilities of Minato and guys like Pain Kisame must have had a good chance of beating Oro because from the context of the manga these guys looks stronger than Oro.
It would be better to re-consider what you are actually thinking, cause in this case, you are completely wrong. In order for Orochimaru to trigger the ritual, he has to appear in his Snake Form and attack the opponent. Minato would not let Orochimaru scratch him, he could slash him immediately or put explosive tags and dismember him. And I don't think Orochimaru would go Snake Form with an opponent like Minato. It would be a fair ninjutsu battle, which Orochimaru would again lose, due to Minato's uber speed and skills. Minato would have difficulties though if Orochimaru had managed to use Edo Tensei. Although still, he wouldn't let him do it.
1. the third was a very good fighter. Plus, hiruzen died, orochimaru didn't. Common sense says that orochimaru was closer to winning.
, and in that state naruto was impenetrable. Orochimaru had no innate abilities to control a biju, like yamato does. And he wasn't really defeated. They were two thick shells bouncing into one another. this fight could have dragged on forever.Sounds cool, but I actually want kisame to escape.
There are too few bad guys left - though all of them very strong.
1. the third was a very good fighter. Plus, hiruzen died, orochimaru didn't. Common sense says that orochimaru was closer to winning.
2. orochimaru was sick, had decaying arms and was desperate to be healed. He was usually sick, but a healthy orochimaru is deadlier.
3. two reasons: this was a show-off of the 4th tail's awesomeness
I'm not implying that orochimaru is invincible (in his healthy state), but few people could beat him. Sasuke was not stronger than orochimaru. He just got lucky and found him half-dead.
Again where was the sure win jutsu?
1. Hiruzen was freaking old and still he took Oro to his limits don't have to say anything about it.1. the third was a very good fighter. Plus, hiruzen died, orochimaru didn't. Common sense says that orochimaru was closer to winning.
2. orochimaru was sick, had decaying arms and was desperate to be healed. He was usually sick, but a healthy orochimaru is deadlier.
3. two reasons: this was a show-off of the 4th tail's awesomeness
I'm not implying that orochimaru is invincible (in his healthy state), but few people could beat him. Sasuke was not stronger than orochimaru. He just got lucky and found him half-dead.
