[Predictions] One Piece Manga Chapter 851 Discussion and 852 Predictions

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People really saying Big Mom's hype is going down for using Zeus and Prometheus against Brook, but didn't WB bust out Quakes ASAP against fodder Marines? Was Akainu not using magma to take out fodder pirates and to execute Coby? Was Aokiji not using the Hie Hie no Mi immediately when engaging the Strawhats at one of their weakest points? Didn't Doflamingo use Parasite and Conqueror's Haki and his strings on weaklings?

Just because Big Mom is using her main, hyped weapons/abilities doesn't mean she's using them to the fullest extent. This is a really dumb way to look at it and then draw the conclusion that Big Mom's hype is dying.
Exactly this.

I completely agree..

It's like people who choose to look at a glass half empty instead of half full.. at this point, rather than downplaying Big Mom and her "hype", they should just give Brook props and respect and let this situation add to his hype.
 

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After all this teasing and build up. If Jinbei doesn't join the crew? I'm gonna be very upset. And I mean actually join the crew. Not like Cavendish and the rest of those guy's.
 

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Carrot and Jinbei should both join, but Oda would probably go for only Carrot. Jinbei doesn't really seem like the type of person to spend the rest of his time joining the SH's on seas + I don't even think Jinbei has a dream. Isn't it usually when a new person joins Luffy's crew they have some type of dream or purpose they want to follow?

Jinbei would seem "out of place" or just awkward joining the SH's.

Carrot seems like the more obvious choice given how Oda likes to do things.
 
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Carrot and Jinbei should both join, but Oda would probably go for only Carrot. Jinbei doesn't really seem like the type of person to spend the rest of his time joining the SH's on seas + I don't even think Jinbei has a dream. Isn't it usually when a new person joins Luffy's crew they have some type of dream or purpose they want to follow?

Jinbei would seem "out of place" or just awkward joining the SH's.

Carrot seems like the more obvious choice given how Oda likes to do things.
Could easily be to end the stigmas between Fishman and humans for good.
 

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No tantrum here buddy. I proved you wrong last week on this topic. And did it twice again today with old quotes. Good job. You really made your point.

If you're having such a bad time talking to me, how about you stop quoting me.

About me not admitting my mistakes, this will be my third time now saying, even if I said Zeff, it might as well be anyone else. I used the Zeff example because that one was being confirmed by Judge later on.

So I'm admitting my mistakes without any problems, you're not even recognizing making mistakes, which is far worse.

Also it is the oldest trick in the book when you've lost an argument to discredit the other person. It's all just distraction from the earlier points you've made that never held up. Like the enraged army having trouble with Luffy or Sanji having a choice on Zou.

So how about it, will you be making your mea culpa next ? Probably not. Let's see who really has the biggest ego in the room.
Aw, you're cute when you try. Attempting to discredit the other person is half of your "argument" approach with your petty insults and belligerence.

Yeah, the thing you can't, or refuse to, see though, is that's not admitting you're wrong that's saying "oh it doesn't matter that I was wrong in the details because I was right in the spirit of my statement" You said I was wrong that Sanji got the threat of Zeff on WCI then when I showed you you were wrong you start in with some ol' close enough non-snese.

If you're recognizing you're making a mistake and still go ahead and make it then it's not a mistake it was intentional. You're dumb wording aside what's that even supposed to insinuate? "You don't recognize you're making mistakes" um yeah I have that's why I owned up on them when pointed out, see some people acknowledge a mess up others say things like "you know what I meant" or "close enough" or "It doesn't matter if my points were wrong, what I meant to say was right"

You. You have the biggest ego.
 

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Aw, you're cute when you try. Attempting to discredit the other person is half of your "argument" approach with your petty insults and belligerence.

Yeah, the thing you can't, or refuse to, see though, is that's not admitting you're wrong that's saying "oh it doesn't matter that I was wrong in the details because I was right in the spirit of my statement" You said I was wrong that Sanji got the threat of Zeff on WCI then when I showed you you were wrong you start in with some ol' close enough non-snese.

If you're recognizing you're making a mistake and still go ahead and make it then it's not a mistake it was intentional. You're dumb wording aside what's that even supposed to insinuate? "You don't recognize you're making mistakes" um yeah I have that's why I owned up on them when pointed out, see some people acknowledge a mess up others say things like "you know what I meant" or "close enough" or "It doesn't matter if my points were wrong, what I meant to say was right"

You. You have the biggest ego.
Playing the blame game again. But its all for show and for yourself because nobody cares.

At the end of the day there is only one fact that remains.

Sanji got threatned on Zou. Which left him no option to fight back.

That was your entire reasoning for disliking his actions, and I took that away from you. Now with all kinds of trouble you try to put words in my mouth that I might have said it different at some point in time. But that doesn't even matter. Like I said 3 times already Who cares if I said Zeff, it wouldn't be any different if it was someone elses head.

You're only pointing the finger, You told me to own up to my mistakes. And I did, I acknowledged that I said Zeff before. But it doesn't help your point in any way.

The original point was that Sanji was in a helpless situation in Zou. Maybe you want to comment on that again instead of pointing your finger at me.

As expected you didn't make your excuses and continued by saying I am the one with the big ego. What a joke.

If you want to comment again just answer me for the final time:

* Did Sanji have a choice on Zou which wouldn't have led to the death of one of his friends ?
* Did the enraged army have trouble with Luffy ?
* Was a fully prepared Jack unable to destroy Zou ?


Let's see how you answer these now. Or how you are going to avoid answering these. If you're not answering those three I think it's clear that you've understood the point by now but that you're only in it to save face because you're till your neck in the bullshit. That is not on me that is on you.
 

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You really made me laugh. Imagine your "family" forcing you to marry a girl in real life that says she loves you while ****ing other men around. Oh, and your family hates you and just wants to get rid of you while your hands are bound to an invisible chain that restrains you from beating your meat. Tbh I can bet on many things that at least one tear drop would fall down your retarded ass cheek.

Making fun out of fictional cartoon characters must be an aweful fetish.
Someone is really mad. You upset over the RP comments? It's ok I wasn't making fun of you, move along.

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If Sanji doesnt pull the greatest mr. Prince moment of all time after this then im gonna be real pissed.

Also that last line of brook towards BM, never thought he had it in himself.
 

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What's the point of replying to criticism of your points if you cop out of addressing the criticism just to make a weak insult?
Stop quoting me, you're annoying af.

Criticism of what? The guy started talking about me IRL shedding tears, I'm supposed to give your friend a serious reply?
 

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Stop quoting me, you're annoying af.

Criticism of what? The guy started talking about me IRL shedding tears, I'm supposed to give your friend a serious reply?
My friend? Lol. Also this is what I'm talking about. "Stop quoting me." What's the point of these replies besides looking like a child having a tantrum?

He brought up you crying irl because he was saying "A person would cry irl if these things happened, why can't Sanji cry for something that's worse?"

He criticized your viewpoint of the manga, and you replied by insulting him like a toddler. Not a single mention of anything relating to the manga or the discussion. That's just weak.
 

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Smh, you expect me to take a post seriously talking about me shedding a tear? Man's comparing me to a superhero from a manga. Lmfao Riker just stop typing for the sake of filling the thread.
 

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Smh, you expect me to take a post seriously talking about me shedding a tear? Man's comparing me to a superhero from a manga. Lmfao Riker just stop typing for the sake of filling the thread.
You're right tbh. Idk why I expected you to grasp the point and get past something as shallow as vernacular to understand what's being said. Your "understanding" of the manga showed otherwise, so that's my bad
 

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i love it because i believe sanji will get his boost with the hard body and since he's going thru so much i think he will unluck his family genes enhancement and also we get to see them against a yonko i think this arc luffy learns awakening
 

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Playing the blame game again. But its all for show and for yourself because nobody cares.

At the end of the day there is only one fact that remains.

Sanji got threatned on Zou. Which left him no option to fight back.

That was your entire reasoning for disliking his actions, and I took that away from you. Now with all kinds of trouble you try to put words in my mouth that I might have said it different at some point in time. But that doesn't even matter. Like I said 3 times already Who cares if I said Zeff, it wouldn't be any different if it was someone elses head.

You're only pointing the finger, You told me to own up to my mistakes. And I did, I acknowledged that I said Zeff before. But it doesn't help your point in any way.

The original point was that Sanji was in a helpless situation in Zou. Maybe you want to comment on that again instead of pointing your finger at me.

As expected you didn't make your excuses and continued by saying I am the one with the big ego. What a joke.

If you want to comment again just answer me for the final time:

* Did Sanji have a choice on Zou which wouldn't have led to the death of one of his friends ?
* Did the enraged army have trouble with Luffy ?
* Was a fully prepared Jack unable to destroy Zou ?


Let's see how you answer these now. Or how you are going to avoid answering these. If you're not answering those three I think it's clear that you've understood the point by now but that you're only in it to save face because you're till your neck in the bullshit. That is not on me that is on you.
1. He did have a choice and it would have caused some risks but that's what most choices for a pirate on a crew aiming for PK involve, risk. Just because you don't accept that there was a choice doesn't null it's existence. His crew could have helped try and save whoever was threatened on Zou and they would have had a better chance at that than the ordeal they have to go throuh to get Sanji back.

2. As I've said before, The Enraged army core had a hard time with an exhausted and beaten Luffy while the big wigs teamed up to subdue him. This is in no way indicative that the Enraged Army is enough of a force to handle a full charged Luffy and co.

3. A fully prepared Jack was able to destroy the land on Zunisha and do significant damage to Zunisha's leg. When it was unresponsive. That's like saying "Man, Jack kicked that walls ass, he used all his force and knocked it 80% of the way down and it just sat there and didn't do shit."

I'm not putting words in your mouth or what you might have said, ,you said flat out "Receiving the Zeff threat on WCI? Wrong. He received it on Zou"

If you were owning up to it you'd say "I was wrong about the Zeff threat" and not need to add in all the extra saving face bs about how it not being Zeff isn't the point to what you were saying. That's not owning up that's deflecting the fact you were wrong too.

If you wanna conitnue answer these;

Did Sanji really think by going to Zou to spare whoever was threatened on Zou that he wasn't going to be putting his crew in direct risk when they came for him just like he saw and participated in them doing for Robin?

Being realistic, how well do you think the Enraged Army could fare against the SH's, Law, Minks on Zou when they had a not easy time with a worn out Luffy?

How did that Jack/Zunisha shit turn out the second Zunisha was unrestricted? 1 second KO. You act as if Jack doing damage to a non responsive Zunisha means anything in comparison to a Zunisha that would be able to defend itself on Momo's orders(btw Momo doesn't have t command Zunisha just give her the order to defend herself)
 
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