This election makes me doubt the electoral college

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This thread will likely drag on for a bit, so if you don't want to read the whole thing, skip the spoiler section and just read the summary, thanks.

Now before this election, I don't think anyone would have thought it was possible for a president elect to lose the popular vote and win the electoral college by such a large margin. Personally, I considered the results of the 2000 election a fluke simply because I had never known of it happening before (not since the 1800's at least) and thought it would never happen again. Not only that, but Gore only lost the electoral vote by a small margin so it was somewhat understandable.

In Trumps case, however, he managed to lose the popular vote by a minuscule margin yet win the electoral vote by at least 40 delegates. That, in itself, is absolutely astounding. Not astounding in the sense that Trump did well to attain it, but astounding that our system could possibly allow it to happen. If you ask me, it seems Democrats have a serious disadvantage in the electoral college.

Consider the fact that Democrats are favored highly in big populace states like New York and California. Taking those states might help them take advantage in the popular vote, but it hurts them in the electoral college. I think its safe to say that republicans take a majority of states even when they lose, simply because their voter base is more spread and Democrats are more concentrated.

Put simply? If such a drastic variance of popular vote vs. electoral vote can happen once, its likely to happen again or get worse. The worst case is that Republicans become widespread enough or Democrats become concentrated enough to where Republicans win the electoral vote almost every time. I can honestly see us becoming a one party nation in as little as 50 years if such a phenomenon were to continue. Am I crazy or does this scare other people too?

Summary:

I feel that the fact Trump lost the popular vote yet won the electoral college by such a large margin is very disturbing. This election was completely unlike 2000 in the sense that Gore only lost in the electoral college by a small margin. Trump, on the other hand, somehow won by at least 40 electoral votes despite losing the popular vote. This makes me believe Democrats have a serious disadvantage in the electoral college, as their numbers are more isolated than Republicans. If a trend were to arise where Democrats are becoming more isolated in certain states, I could easily imagine a future where Republicans have a serious advantage in the electoral college where they are almost certain to win future elections. If such a thing were to happen and we became essentially a one party nation... what would result? Does this possibility scare anyone else?

Please take note I'm a registered republican and not a Democratic sympathizer. Rather, I simply fear for the current balance that exists between our two major parties.
 

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The Democrats are Republicans. The Republicans are moving far right because of the Democrates. We were moving towards a one party system (forming into a oligarchy) if you haven't realized. Both Supporter's Trump and Bernie (except Hillary) realized this and wanted to rebel against it. Hence, Trump being elected.
 

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the popular votes shows on liberal mainstream media are rigged

check here
 
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I doubt you would question the electoral college had Hillary Clinton won. I doubt you'd question anything had Hillary Clinton won. You're in denial, accept it.
 

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I doubt you would question the electoral college had Hillary Clinton won. I doubt you'd question anything had Hillary Clinton won. You're in denial, accept it.
In the end of the day electoral college isn't true representation I'm not happy trump won but I have to accept it and would still accept it if he won the popular vote as well at least then we could say it was true democracy in play
 

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Would be much better if all elections were decided based on Popular Votes rather than Electoral College votes imo.
I don't think we'd be able to change that system at this point. If we did it would require quite the change in ideology.

I doubt you would question the electoral college had Hillary Clinton won. I doubt you'd question anything had Hillary Clinton won. You're in denial, accept it.
If you read the post you'd know I'm not a democrat. I didn't vote in this election because I didn't like either candidate enough to support them.
 

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I doubt you would question the electoral college had Hillary Clinton won. I doubt you'd question anything had Hillary Clinton won. You're in denial, accept it.
I honestly thought it was going to be rigged in Hillary's favor.

Lol ate my words.
 

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Hildabeast didn't win in any thing but having the media on her side... She lost everywhere but was handed what she had through media...

All the info out there on this lady an people look past all the crimes she's commited an have the nerve to call others stupid/deplorables...

Pay attention folks, don't be fooled by this system that want's you stupid/dumb-down so they can rape you with their crimes.. (Wikileaks)

I figured calling her supporters names doesn't get us anywhere because they just double down on being con'd so it's best to lead them to information that is hands down blatant an in your face crimes of all proportions..

Getting money from terror countries who kill folks that support Hilabeast policies. (Wikileaks)
Protecting rapist, while doing some raping of her own.
Stealing billions of dollars from haiti people through her "great foundation"

On an on an on with this lady an her supporters don't wanna see it..

Wake up folks! She doesn't give a shit about you... (Find a alternate source of information because the media is bought an payed for by bad people who don't have your best intrest at mind/heart)
Bless!
 

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The Democrats are Republicans. The Republicans are moving far right because of the Democrates. We were moving towards a one party system (forming into a oligarchy) if you haven't realized. Both Supporter's Trump and Bernie (except Hillary) realized this and wanted to rebel against it. Hence, Trump being elected.
This is what I'll give credit for trump He really appealed to the general people out side of white conservatives because he wasn't a regular establishment politican. But honestly he really became a legitimate choice to people when Bernie wasn't democratic nominee dividing Democrats. Some people see trump as the lesser evil but unlike Hilary trump is a completely unchained beast that can say anything crazy good or bad unlike Hilary nothing will stick to him and political power wise he has full control senate house supreme Court Republican and his core constituency is the extreme far right he focused on pandering too. To those who support the extreme far right are happy everyone else is worried what could possibly happen.
 

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It was rigged but in favor of Republicans bc voter I'd laws.
I heard electoral college is related to slavery it somethin idk
It is and it's an archaic system that just doesn't work for modern society. Of course, you'd have morons try and defend it by attacking the popular vote with ridiculous arguments such as it being "flawed" because politicians would "neglect" certain states. They clearly don't understand that one vote matters and could be the difference between a win or a loss.
 
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It's out of wack because rural/less populated regions have disproportionate amount of voting power. Also gerrymandering has played a role.
Yes, it's an issue.
 

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If you read the post you'd know I'm not a democrat. I didn't vote in this election because I didn't like either candidate enough to support them.
There's more to the general election than the president, fam. Senate races are just as important, if not more, as they actually develop laws. The general election also had picks for your governor and local offices, which impact your community the most. VOTE NEXT TIME.
 

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It is and it's an archaic system that just doesn't work for modern society. Of course, you'd have morons try and defend it by attacking the popular vote with ridiculous arguments such as it being "flawed" because politicians would "neglect" certain states. They clearly don't understand that one vote matters and could be the difference between a win or a loss.
How would it neglect states only a few states shouldn't dictate the opinion of the entire country
 

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How would it neglect states only a few states shouldn't dictate the opinion of the entire country
It's in the other thread. According to them, states with low populations don't matter because they won't make a difference in the total votes, so candidates will only focus on big states and ignore the rest like trash, leaving precious votes behind. Makes sense for politicians to do such a thing, right? hurr durr hurr hurr
 
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