Why Neji should not have been used as a human shield

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1 - he was actually one of the few promissing characters that the Naruto manga had (in Naruto, if you don't have a sharingan, rikudou chakra, rinnegan or a demon inside you, you're not good enough)

2 - he could've made a better use of Hamura chakra than Hinata ever did and ever will. He was a prodigy, with Hamura chakra he could arguably have been somewhere close to Nardo and Sauce's tier

3 - at 16, he displayed feats as good as the strongest Hyuga we ever seen, Hiashi.

4 - we may have lost the only chance we had of seeing Byakugan's full potential being achieved

5 - his death was pretty much in vain. Honestly, he was sacrificed in order to keep a close-to-irrelevant side character alive. Hinata should have been wiped off of the face of the earth instead of him. (Naruto could've been paired with any other random girl, that's not an excuse)

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Kishi is a bad guy dude. Had he kept Neji alive, he would have to make the Hyuuga main family-side family shit culture disbanded which he did not want to do.
He didnt even mention about that anywhere once Neji was gone.
 
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As much as I want Neji to have lived, I think he is the best player to take on that role and receive that pinpoint attack. Drama was served. I and I disagree to OP's second point. the introduction of Hamura didn't intend for Hinata or any other Hyuuga recipient to act in par with Naruto and sasuke.

Even if Neji were the one to be the Hamura successor, it still is far fetched to establish that he equals the frontrunners of the series. My point is that the way the series handled Hamura and the Hyuuga wasn't at its best, and stripping the title off Hinata won't change it.

Why don't people accept that despite his death, that same fate resolved his character at the utmost way possible. It's just disappointing how we didn't get to see more of the Hyuuga after the war and all. At the very least, I guess Neji is being honoured as BOruto was named after his late uncle.
 

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Yes.

NejiRuto > NaruHina
I kind of agree with this. The very reason why your OP was flawed saying Hinata should have died instead of Neji.
You're saying NejiRuto was better than NaruHIna. Consequently, Neji dying for Naruto established a better narrative than Hinata dying.
His death paved way for NaruHina though at relative doses
 

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I kind of agree with this. The very reason why your OP was flawed saying Hinata should have died instead of Neji.
You're saying NejiRuto was better than NaruHIna. Consequently, Neji dying for Naruto established a better narrative than Hinata dying.
His death paved way for NaruHina though at relative doses
Vulpini is extremely rustled at the very existence of Hinata's character, far past what is considered healthy.

Just seeing the name "Hinata" written in text on a screen completely destroys whatever jimmies still live inside them. Truly a sad sight, being bothered by a fictional character to such a degree.

A moment of silence for those lost jimmies, and here's to a bright and hopeful future for the tenacious jimmies that continue to persevere. :T_T:
 

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Vulpini is extremely rustled at the very existence of Hinata's character, far past what is considered healthy.

Just seeing the name "Hinata" written in text on a screen completely destroys whatever jimmies still live inside them. Truly a sad sight, being bothered by a fictional character to such a degree.

A moment of silence for those lost jimmies, and here's to a bright and hopeful future for the tenacious jimmies that continue to persevere. :T_T:
I know his kind. I just enjoy rustling his species some more. WHo wouldn't? HAHAHAHAHAAH
 

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Vulpini is extremely rustled at the very existence of Hinata's character, far past what is considered healthy.

Just seeing the name "Hinata" written in text on a screen completely destroys whatever jimmies still live inside them. Truly a sad sight, being bothered by a fictional character to such a degree.

A moment of silence for those lost jimmies, and here's to a bright and hopeful future for the tenacious jimmies that continue to persevere. :T_T:
This goes for most hard core Sakura fan's for some reason. I don't understand.

They preach that they don't have to worry about Sakura at all because "insert superiority" yet all they do is talk about Hinata.

Am I missing something? Well in Vulpini's case he is a Hinata fan like he told me ... so he get's a pass :Sparks:
 

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As much as I want Neji to have lived, I think he is the best player to take on that role and receive that pinpoint attack. Drama was served. I and I disagree to OP's second point. the introduction of Hamura didn't intend for Hinata or any other Hyuuga recipient to act in par with Naruto and sasuke.

Even if Neji were the one to be the Hamura successor, it still is far fetched to establish that he equals the frontrunners of the series. My point is that the way the series handled Hamura and the Hyuuga wasn't at its best, and stripping the title off Hinata won't change it.

Why don't people accept that despite his death, that same fate resolved his character at the utmost way possible. It's just disappointing how we didn't get to see more of the Hyuuga after the war and all. At the very least, I guess Neji is being honoured as BOruto was named after his late uncle.
Neji should've died by the hand of Kidomaru, I don't see any real purpose of dieing prior to being irrelevant who serves no roles but to act as a plot device for a cupid. If Neji protected someone else other than hinata that might've been a different story. However Hinata is a MAIN Family so that was apart of the Hyuga destiny. The original message of Naruto was that how you are born. You can be whatever you want if you're so determine to change your path.
His father believe Neji can change the hyuga because he's a prodigiy. Instead it end up being his grave as a Hyuga slave boy, so in the end you can't escape from fate.

Well Hamaru even without the Tenseigan was pretty on par with Hagoromo that should mean a heir of a hyuga with a powerup should receive the same notion as Naruto and Sasuke atleast. The hyuga clan had ALOT of Potential and yet they are heavily nerfed due to being under utilized and if only the Hyuga gets some plot non-restricted they would've been super OP.

Hinata was pretty much inexperienced shinobi so she didn't do much with Hamura chakra in the fight other than being a support role. Neji is a battle expertise so I can definately see him adapt Hamura chakra better.
Don't forget Neji was the one who taught Hinata Twin Lion Fist and 64 palm, it would seem Hinata is helpless without Neji Training Session.
 
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I felt Neji's death was symbolic of Neji proudly breaking the shackles of his destiny once and for all. Naruto had already ridden Neji of the "shackles of his fate" (quoted because it's stated in the Viz), but the final step for Neji, much like his father, was to risk his life for someone he cherished and by doing so, initiated the final step he needed to conquer the curse of his clan once and for all.

I myself am actually intrigued how Neji's death paralleled his father's. Interesting shit Kishimoto pulled there.
 

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Neji should've died by the hand of Kidomaru, I don't see any real purpose of dieing prior to being irrelevant who serves no roles but to act as a plot device for a cupid. If Neji protected someone else other than hinata that might've been a different story. However Hinata is a MAIN Family so that was apart of the Hyuga destiny. The original message of Naruto was that how you are born. You can be whatever you want if you're so determine to change your path.
His father believe Neji can change the hyuga because he's a prodigiy. Instead it end up being his grave as a Hyuga slave boy, so in the end you can't escape from fate.



Well Hamaru even without the Tenseigan was pretty on par with Hagoromo that should mean a heir of a hyuga with a powerup should receive the same notion as Naruto and Sasuke atleast. The hyuga clan had ALOT of Potential and yet they are heavily nerfed due to being under utilized and if only the Hyuga gets some plot non-restricted they would've been super OP.

Hinata was pretty much inexperienced shinobi so she didn't do much with Hamura chakra in the fight other than being a support role. Neji is a battle expertise so I can definately see him adapt Hamura chakra better.
Don't forget Neji was the one who taught Hinata Twin Lion Fist and 64 palm, it would seem Hinata is helpless without Neji Training Session.

so what if Neji's a plot device, they all are.
And I wont argue about Hamura being equal to Hagoromo. what I'm making as a point is that Hinata or any other Hyuuga being given Hamura's chakra is a desperate act to put the subject along Naruto and Sasuke's level. This again goes to the poo r execution of Hamura's lineage. It was a last ditch effort to tie loose ends on Hamura's part. Neji could have received it, Even Hanabi.

But this is us talking about Neji's act of sacrifice,.
 

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Hm because as someone who has the role to serve even to the point of death, which I believe was noted early in Naruto, it was more or less a given that he'll die anyway. For the pessimists out there that believed that Hinata was gonna fook up somewhere... It was a self fulfilling prophecy.
 

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so what if Neji's a plot device, they all are.
And I wont argue about Hamura being equal to Hagoromo. what I'm making as a point is that Hinata or any other Hyuuga being given Hamura's chakra is a desperate act to put the subject along Naruto and Sasuke's level. This again goes to the poo r execution of Hamura's lineage. It was a last ditch effort to tie loose ends on Hamura's part. Neji could have received it, Even Hanabi.

But this is us talking about Neji's act of sacrifice,.
Don't try to act as if "ALL Plotdevice" would pardon his death, it's not an exceptional to use that as defense mechanism. A Plot device can sometime be well-crafted that may entirely be acceptable for the story, as long as it's executed well for the plot.
However what we've received was a notion of contrived plot device which was forcefully upon red-herring.

Anyone who tries to justify Neji's death is just stupid. Kishimoto basically treated Neji's death like a random fodder in the story. So his death didn't really matter at the very least, NH didn't happen after the war. Rather both characters were regressed in the Movie, they completely forgot the reason why Neji had to sacrificed for.

NOT ONCE did they even bring up Neji in Naruto the Last Movie, instead it was completely overshadowed by Naruto x Hinata.

All Hyuga are being reduced to some pairing device and that's damn shame!

If Kishimoto needed a way for Naruto and Hinata to become closer then he should have found a way for them to react earlier in the manga instead of wasting such potential on a character that had much promise.

Kishimoto doesn't know how to take care of his characters.
 
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I felt Neji's death was symbolic of Neji proudly breaking the shackles of his destiny once and for all. Naruto had already ridden Neji of the "shackles of his fate" (quoted because it's stated in the Viz), but the final step for Neji, much like his father, was to risk his life for someone he cherished and by doing so, initiated the final step he needed to conquer the curse of his clan once and for all.

I myself am actually intrigued how Neji's death paralleled his father's. Interesting shit Kishimoto pulled there.
The whole thing was contradicting. That result was always his clan's intended destiny so he didn't break from it nor was it defied or challenged. True symbolism would see Hiashi leader of the Head branch being the one to save Neji as apposed to the traditional flow of things.

-Neji ultimately deciding to consent to sacrificing himself like his father did only to be saved last minute by his uncle who was saved by his father would've made for a much better fit and given closure the whole Hyuga system.
 
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Hinata dying in Neji's place would have been more impactful and would have made the parallels between Obito and Naruto's respective stories stronger.

But ofc the alien fetish is real and a filler movie needed to be made so Neji needed to be the lamb on this occasion.
 

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Don't try to act as if "ALL Plotdevice" would pardon his death, it's not an exceptional to use that as defense mechanism. A Plot device can sometime be well-crafted that may entirely be acceptable for the story, as long as it's executed well for the plot.
However what we've received was a notion of contrived plot device which was forcefully upon red-herring.

Anyone who tries to justify Neji's death is just stupid. Kishimoto basically treated Neji's death like a random fodder in the story. So his death didn't really matter at the very least, NH didn't happen after the war. Rather both characters were regressed in the Movie, they completely forgot the reason why Neji had to sacrificed for.

NOT ONCE did they even bring up Neji in Naruto the Last Movie, instead it was completely overshadowed by Naruto x Hinata.

All Hyuga are being reduced to some pairing device and that's damn shame!

If Kishimoto needed a way for Naruto and Hinata to become closer then he should have found a way for them to react earlier in the manga instead of wasting such potential on a character that had much promise.

Kishimoto doesn't know how to take care of his characters.
Maybe I'm just stupid to think it that way. i just make it a point that his death meant more than just provoking a pairing to happen. Still, everything wasnt at its best shape. Even the Last wasnt so, there is no point bringing that up. We're left with an unending debate, that's all.
 

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The whole thing was contradicting. That result was always his clan's intended destiny so he didn't break from it nor was it defied or challenged. True symbolism would see Hiashi leader of the Head branch being the one to save Neji as apposed to the traditional flow of things.

-Neji ultimately deciding to consent to sacrificing himself like his father did only to be saved last minute by his uncle who was saved by his father would've made for a much better fit and given closure the whole Hyuga system.
I think Neji already fit that role just fine by achieving whatever the Main Branch could accomplish despite how his social status would dictate otherwise. I agree though, that would've been a much better ending though.
 
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