[Discussion] Movement against Chinese Dog eating festival

[Ryu Kishi]

I don't know why they don't eat cats insted

 

[HashiraMadara]

I don't know why they don't eat cats insted

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[ToshiZO]

I don't know why they don't eat cats insted

Dogs = Cat food.

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[Sasuke tyeezy]

Morality is a completely different topic worth its own thread. It is highly subjective it self. Cooking alive of dogs is a rare one even in the festival, it's a special kind of cuisine said to "bring a better and richer flavour" only a few people afford.

Secondly 90% of plebs in this argument uses an excuse of "inhumane methods" and "most dogs are stolen" to massage the fact that they are not comfortable with someone eating a dog. Meanwhile while seafood gets boiled alive in the name of exotic cuisine and you throw excuses of more complex emotional structure? Sharks are top notch in evolution yet you give 0 f*cks about them being skinned alive and boiled in pans. How many innocent non edible fish are caught in net fishing?

I hate this dog eating, it's disgusting to cook an alive thing, I can never bring my self to watch a dog being cooked alive but this IS NOT ABOUT ME or my sentimental ideals, it's about someone else choosing his diet. Something West has never taught them selves since the missionaries who changed anything into their way of thinking. AND YES YOU ARE A PLEB IF YOU WILL BELITTLE INDIAN'S WAY OF LOOKING AT A COW YET YOU NAMED A DOG MAN'S BEST FRIEND :|

I made my statement, you've made yours. You're still a demented monster at the end of the day. Goodbye.

 

[Wabbit]

You don't seem to be picking up what I'm putting down. Humans can find certain attributes within the world of humans, but human hold no more value to any animal within the natural world, or the universe. You say "we can measure value based on some attributes", but only humans find those attributes valuable. Just like big antlers on a deer is a valuable attribute to other deer, in no way is it of any value to a human nor does it hold any greater value within the universe.

introducing foreign animal species, and global warming. Humans did not bring upon the salvation of animals, but the destruction. Organizations like the WWF (World Wildlife Foundation) only exist to correct the damage humans have caused.

It is actually the opposite. You are taking my own statements and writing it in different way like that would make sense. The point of animals can not think for themselves is that animals don't have society or culture or part of a a society. An animal cannot enforce its will like a human human can do on environment. Most of the things don't have any value in sense but it does for humans like concept of justice, but it is not something actually exists but it matters for humans. Also things here are addressed in humans perspective.

You also make the point that animals cannot think for themselves in a way to devalue them and that they're only alive by the mercy of humans, which is false.

Humans are the root source of nearly all animal extinctions, whether it be destroying their habitat via pollution, or deforestation, excessive hunting which creates imbalances in preexisting ecosystems

>animals are not alive by mercy of human
>you see animals are getting extinct by ppl
XD
you are clearly just trolling at this point and it is lame as ****
We conserver animals for our own safety and well being and because the ecosystem is necessary for our survival. If there was another way they would not matter. Humans consider their survival top priority and also the immediate profit they can gain, that means from what can human can get from those animals like eating or skinning them for trade.

 

[Legendary Saiyan]

That's disgusting. Eating Dogs, Cats, Mice, Horse, that's just wrong man. But who am I to judge since I once ate Sheep liver :/

 

[HashiraMadara]

That's disgusting. Eating Dogs, Cats, Mice, Horse, that's just wrong man. But who am I to judge since I once ate Sheep liver :/

I eat sheep liver whenever I get chance. You just fried slightly and eat it with the fat :sdo:

Horse: it's a proverb that when "all food is gone warriors eat their horses" in my culture.

Mice, more specifically the African field back striped mouse used to be accepted as the boys' snack. I am in the last generation who hunted them. Current teens and young ones see it as yuck...

Cat nah, Dogs nah

 

[Flim]

It's something that happened during times when they didn't have anything to eat. Hell, they even added chalk to make buns when they we're poor enough and didn't have enough flour... Maybe they see dogs as some sort of salvation thing and honoring them as so...by eating more of them?

I don't know. I think it's gross and no domesticated animal should be eaten, but cultures have their own thing. Something as big as such just can't be stopped at once. People will have to get their minds around it and accept that it's "wrong".

I did not read the opening bit. Just sayin

 

[Marin]

Strongly oppose the festival myself. Dogs are raised as companions, not livestock. That's the difference between them and a pig, chicken or a cow. Even if you are going to hold dogs just for food, do so in actual humane conditions, which is definitely not the conditions the dogs go through.

 

[kimb]

It is actually the opposite. You are taking my own statements and writing it in different way like that would make sense. The point of animals can not think for themselves is that animals don't have society or culture or part of a a society. An animal cannot enforce its will like a human human can do on environment. Most of the things don't have any value in sense but it does for humans like concept of justice, but it is not something actually exists but it matters for humans. Also things here are addressed in humans perspective.

Holy ****, the first paragraph has way too many grammatical errors for me to truly respond without misinterpreting your points; if you don't want me to paraphrase your comments, make them more understandable.

>animals are not alive by mercy of human
>you see animals are getting extinct by ppl
XD
you are clearly just trolling at this point and it is lame as ****
We conserver animals for our own safety and well being and because the ecosystem is necessary for our survival. If there was another way they would not matter. Humans consider their survival top priority and also the immediate profit they can gain, that means from what can human can get from those animals like eating or skinning them for trade.

I do not disagree with this, nor was I debating this. I'm speaking from the perspective of ethics which does play a role in why humans conserve animals. Of course there are the ecological benifits from ex. keeping bees alive, but then there are animals such as the polar bear, that exist outside of the effects of human survival, and are yet the main focuses of animal conservation organizations.

Not all human interactions are limited to "PRIMAL SURVIVAL". Of course survival is a priority to humans, but the goal of survival had been achieved in most 1st and 2nd world countries, to where we do not need to benifit from hunting and killing animals. The age of neanderthals is long gone. Now that are basic needs as humans have been achieved, and for the most part, are kept in balance, we can focus on other issues. One of them being preventing the existinction of animals at the hands of humans.

 

[HashiraMadara]

Strongly oppose the festival myself. Dogs are raised as companions, not livestock. That's the difference between them and a pig, chicken or a cow. Even if you are going to hold dogs just for food, do so in actual humane conditions, which is definitely not the conditions the dogs go through.

If I say dogs are raised to be live stock how is your argument more correct than mine?

 

[Avani]

Strongly oppose the festival myself. Dogs are raised as companions, not livestock. That's the difference between them and a pig, chicken or a cow. Even if you are going to hold dogs just for food, do so in actual humane conditions, which is definitely not the conditions the dogs go through.

Some people raise rabbits ducks and fishes as companions. And eat them too. In most countries where they eat dog- they are not usually keeping them as pets. Not that commonly or in a traditional way at least.

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no domesticated animal should be eaten,

Cow is a domestic animal. People eat them all the time.

 

[HashiraMadara]

I made my statement, you've made yours. You're still a demented monster at the end of the day. Goodbye.

> You eat sheep
> I eat dog
> I am a monster
> you are a saint

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[Ōkami]

I've always wanted to try dog to be honest.