My Favorite Thing About Rape Culture

[FreakensteinAG]

I noticed you mentioned Trump, but how come you didn't comment on the judges that trivialized rape, such as in the Brock Turner case and the case I linked earlier, and the increasing prevalence of rape fetishes in mainstream pornography?

Rape fetishes in pornography are between two consenting adults anyway, so it's not actually rape. There is no harm that an actual rape would cause.

Secondly, while the two judges' verdicts were ridiculous, two judges making a ridiculous ruling does not constitute a nationwide epidemic. That's what I'm looking for: actual rape culture, not isolated cases making news because the entire nation understands that it's ridiculous.

 

[Illuminater]

Rape Culture doesn't exist.

 

[Illuminater]

Women just love protesting and being activists about something.

 

[ComplexCity]

snip.

I re-read your quote. I wasn't arguing against you in my earlier comment. Just using that as an example lol

 

[Conspirator.]

I was gonna say my favourite part about it is that "it doesn't exist" but then you mentioned it in the thread. :bdpf:

 

[ComplexCity]

I was gonna say my favourite part about it is that "it doesn't exist" but then you mentioned it in the thread. :bdpf:

:bdpf:

 

[~WastelandSociety~]

When a presidential candidate says he can go kiss women and grab their vaginas "automatically" because "[he] doesn't even wait" and people pass it off as "locker room talk" you know rape culture is real.

You forgot the word: " Let".

 

[Punk Hazard]

Rape fetishes in pornography are between two consenting adults anyway, so it's not actually rape. There is no harm that an actual rape would cause.

Secondly, while the two judges' verdicts were ridiculous, two judges making a ridiculous ruling does not constitute a nationwide epidemic. That's what I'm looking for: actual rape culture, not isolated cases making news because the entire nation understands that it's ridiculous.

Now, while you're right that there is no harm being done with the rape that takes place within the pornography, couldn't it still be argued that having rape in pornography is in of itself a negative action? To illustrate what I mean, think of movies where rape scenes take place. Those are usually portrayed as dark, in a negative light to give the character committing the rape negative portrayal.

In pornography, however, the concept of rape is commercialized and portrayed as part of what is supposed to be arousing. I'm not talking about it from the stance of the actors, I'm talking about it from the stance of the viewer. When rape is put into porn, which is meant to sexually arouse, it's saying that being sexually aroused by rape is okay. When you commercialize rape is a positive manner like this for the consumer, then it becomes rape culture because you're taking away from the category of deviancy.

As for your comment on a nationwide epidemic, I don't recall ever seeing rape culture defined as such. You say you want more than two examples. Well, how about every time there's a discussion about a rape case? Can you deny that there aren't many people who assign blame to the victim by saying "What was she wearing" "She was asking for it" and making excuses for the rapist? News outlets have reported on rapists as "promising students" and "boys being boys," can you deny that rape is often trivialized in American society? There are many cases of rapists receiving light sentences[

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] Rape culture is when men and women don't press charges because they know they'll be slapped with "It never happened" far too often. Rape culture is when prison rape of of men is made into a long-lasting joke in American society instead of something that should be taken seriously. That kind of thing is what rape culture is referring to, not some massive hive mind.

 

[ComplexCity]

Now, while you're right that there is no harm being done with the rape that takes place within the pornography, couldn't it still be argued that having rape in pornography is in of itself a negative action? To illustrate what I mean, think of movies where rape scenes take place. Those are usually portrayed as dark, in a negative light to give the character committing the rape negative portrayal.

In pornography, however, the concept of rape is commercialized and portrayed as part of what is supposed to be arousing. I'm not talking about it from the stance of the actors, I'm talking about it from the stance of the viewer. When rape is put into porn, which is meant to sexually arouse, it's saying that being sexually aroused by rape is okay. When you commercialize rape is a positive manner like this for the consumer, then it becomes rape culture because you're taking away from the category of deviancy.

As for your comment on a nationwide epidemic, I don't recall ever seeing rape culture defined as such. You say you want more than two examples. Well, how about every time there's a discussion about a rape case? Can you deny that there aren't many people who assign blame to the victim by saying "What was she wearing" "She was asking for it" and making excuses for the rapist? News outlets have reported on rapists as "promising students" and "boys being boys," can you deny that rape is often trivialized in American society? That's what rape culture is referring to, not some massive hive mind.

Dude.....

 

[Punk Hazard]

Dude.....

Try again when you have something substantial to add.

 

[ComplexCity]

Try again when you have something substantial to add.

Take your own advice, you haven't refuted anything I said

Edit: You say we live in a rape culture but insist it's not a national epidemic

Feminist...

 

[Punk Hazard]

Take your own advice, you haven't refuted anything I said

Edit: You say we live in a rape culture but insist it's not a national epidemic

Feminist...

I didn't say we live in a rape culture...

 

[ComplexCity]

I didn't say we live in a rape culture...

So wtf are you arguing then?

Why are you using DJT as an arguing point as well as other Americanized examples?

 

[Punk Hazard]

So wtf are you arguing then?

Why are you using DJT as an arguing point as well as other Americanized examples?

I'm arguing that rape culture exists, just not as you think because you clearly don't know what it is. You hear "rape culture" and instead of actually learning what it is, you immediately assume it's an actual culture. Then when explained that it isn't, you continue to compare to things that are cultures as though you weren't just told it wasn't.

 

[Xlad]

Rape fetishes in pornography are between two consenting adults anyway, so it's not actually rape. There is no harm that an actual rape would cause.

Secondly, while the two judges' verdicts were ridiculous, two judges making a ridiculous ruling does not constitute a nationwide epidemic. That's what I'm looking for: actual rape culture, not isolated cases making news because the entire nation understands that it's ridiculous.

Honestly, I have to agree. The Brock Turner case happens to be wipespread throughout media, but does not represent the general population. Proving existence of phenomenon such as rape culture would need academic findings that indicate such prevalence.

There are also social and cultural factors that must be taken into consideration.

 

[ComplexCity]

I'm arguing that rape culture exists, just not as you think because you clearly don't know what it is. You hear "rape culture" and instead of actually learning what it is, you immediately assume it's an actual culture. Then when explained that it isn't, you continue to compare to things that are cultures as though you weren't just told it wasn't.

I wasn't clear,it exist just not in our culture.


As usual, you didn't answer anything I said. If you're not arguing that it exist in America, why are you using (or attempting) to use evidence in America to prove rape culture in America if it doesn't exist here?

 

[Punk Hazard]

I wasn't clear,it exist just not in our culture.


As usual, you didn't answer anything I said. If you're not arguing that it exist in America, why are you using (or attempting) to use evidence in America to prove your point if rape culture doesn't exist here?

*Sigh* You're so fuc-

Rape culture exists in American society, but that doesn't mean it's a culture. Unless you think it has to be in order to exist in American society, in which case you're just really dumb.

 

[ComplexCity]

*Sigh* You're so fuc-

Rape culture exists in American society, but that doesn't mean it's a culture. Unless you think it has to be in order to exist in American society, in which case you're just really dumb.

I didn't say we live in a rape culture...

Herp derp

Or we can just say it exist in our culture with being it's own culture

But you're Riker so I guess we live in a spanish culture as well :sdo:

 

[Punk Hazard]

Proving existence of phenomenon such as rape culture would need academic findings that indicate such prevalence.

Why can't the proof rape culture existence simply be that it is a label given to the collectively group events and behaviors that occur where people simply trivialize rape through various means and forms, such as the prevalence of male-prison-rape jokes, or the blaming of victims for their rapes, or multiple cases where rapists are let off too early, or observable trends where people within a certain age demographic think date rape is okay?

 

[ComplexCity]

Why can't the proof rape culture existence simply be that it is a label given to the collectively group events and behaviors that occur where people simply trivialize rape through various means and forms, such as the prevalence of male-prison-rape jokes, or the blaming of victims for their rapes, or multiple cases where rapists are let off too early, or observable trends where people within a certain age demographic think date rape is okay?

Because the actions of a group of individuals is not proof that it exist as a culture no matter the semantics it's presented in Just like Black culture isn't crime culture despite the amount of crime within the black community you dumba**


All you're doing is trying to push your narrative with no facts to show for it. Guess my sig is correct in both aspects