My Favorite Thing About Rape Culture

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That would be like talking to a dry wall; even I'm not that crazy yet.

Says rape culture is real

Can't prove rape culture

Guess you're like all the other feminist that blocked me after they couldn't prove the wage gap. Carry on
 

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Fat culture isn't real it's just as idiotic as your trying to make it to be

What you're describing as fat culture, which is the normalization of people who are unhealthily overweight, is very much real. Notice that in my post I say "Fat culture, as you call it," meaning you're the only person I've seen refer to this behavior as "fat culture."

An individual doesn't make up an entire culture :lmao:


Just because these things exist within our culture doesn't mean that it is that culture that's like saying since we have Lo Mein in some places we live in a Chinese culture


Complex...it's not a literal culture...that's just what people call it because it's widespread and reoccurring...

Nobody normalizes rape, it's just a stupid term coined by feminist just like the wage gap, pc culture, etc
Donald Trump normalized rape and sexual assault by saying that him talking about committing those acts is just harmless "locker room talk."

Rape and sexual assault was normalized when Brock Turner got a fraction of his sentence.

Rape was normalized when a judge asked a rape victim why she couldn't "just keep her legs shut" and told the rapist to be "more careful." [ ].

Rape is normalized when we ask "What was she wearing" and when we victim blame. Rape is normalized when we tell people not to dress certain ways to avoid being raped, instead of teaching people not to be rapists.
 

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Says rape culture is real

Can't prove rape culture

Guess you're like all the other feminist that blocked me after they couldn't prove the wage gap. Carry on

That must have been another failed thread.
 

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I don't think its being normalized, I think it is being ignored when there needs to be a discussion about it.

This is just a for of normalizing rape. By avoiding talking about it and sweeping it under the rug, you're saying it's not worth paying attention to, it's just shit happens, which just encourages rapists further because, hey, if no one is gonna shine a light on it, then they obviously don't care much, right?
 

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Complex...it's not a literal culture...that's just what people call it because it's widespread and reoccurring...

What in this response disproves anything I said about Chinese culture? The same rules applies
 

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That must have been another failed thread.

Ah so you're an unintelligent troll. Allow me to block

I don't think its being normalized, I think it is being ignored when there needs to be a discussion about it.

Not even, I feel like there is a bunch or awareness toward it. Though I will say, there are people that do get away with a lot of things they should be in trouble for
 

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Honestly the only thing going on wrong in this thread is that we're using Donald Trump as an example that rape culture exists, when we should be observing case studies involving several people. If you have to use a nationally-recognized moral basketcase as evidence for the existence of rape culture and nothing else, you're not doing a good job.

Unlike the apes in suits we call politicians, we have a healthy society where it is generally accepted that sexual harassment is a serious issue. Yes, we have to lecture teenagers and college students from time to time, and we have to jail men and women for sexual harassment if they didn't get it the first time, but we don't have a 'rape epidemic' that 3rd wave feminists prattle on about. I mean, we do, but it's not in the United States. It's in the third-world countries that do not get much attention anyway.
 
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What in this response disproves anything I said about Chinese culture? The same rules applies

You argue that "rape culture" doesn't exist because the act of normalizing rape, if it exists within a culture, doesn't define that culture. The same way that one culture eating foods from the Chinese culture doesn't make the former culture Chinese as well.

Your argument falls apart because the concept of "rape culture" doesn't refer literally to a culture or aspects of a culture. The comparison fails because you're using what IS an aspect of what IS a culture as an allusion to something ISN'T a culture and ISN'T an aspect of a culture.

"Rape culture" isn't a culture, it's a phenomenon, it's a concept.
 

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Honestly the only thing going on wrong in this thread is that we're using Donald Trump as an example that rape culture exists, when we should be observing case studies involving several people. If you have to use a nationally-recognized moral basketcase as evidence for the existence of rape culture and nothing else, you're not doing a good job.

Enlighten me to how rape culture is real plex, he used Brock Turner as well who's father was in the same class as the the judge and was written a letter by turner's father asking for a lighter sentence
 

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Enlighten me to how rape culture is real plex, he used Brock Turner as well who's father was in the same class as the the judge and was written a letter by turner's father asking for a lighter sentence

I'm not arguing that rape culture exists, I'm arguing that using Donald Trump (of all people they had to choose) as evidence for rape culture existing is faulty evidence. What those advocating for such as topic SHOULD be using is actual case studies. Then we can go deeper and see if said case studies were spun, objective, independent, etc.
 
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phenomenon
someone or something that is very impressive or popular especially because of an unusual ability or quality


You can't disprove that we don't live in a chinese culture (coined the same way rape culture is) without sounding like a hypocrite to your own logic

You can't just use words to make up stuff and ignore the definition of what it is. This is why feminist are never taken srsly


I'm not arguing that rape culture exists, I'm arguing that using Donald Trump (of all people they had to choose) as evidence for rape culture existing is faulty evidence.

That argument can't even be used to define rape culture anyway as there are people that talk like this but don't really act on it
 

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Honestly the only thing going on wrong in this thread is that we're using Donald Trump as an example that rape culture exists, when we should be observing case studies involving several people. If you have to use a nationally-recognized moral basketcase as evidence for the existence of rape culture and nothing else, you're not doing a good job.

Unlike the apes in suits we call politicians, we have a healthy society where it is generally accepted that sexual harassment is a serious issue. Yes, we have to lecture teenagers and college students from time to time, and we have to jail men and women for sexual harassment if they didn't get it the first time, but we don't have a 'rape epidemic' that 3rd wave feminists prattle on about. I mean, we do, but it's not in the United States. It's in the third-world countries that do not get much attention anyway.

Gonna look more into case studies when I get a chance. From what I've seen, the bolded is a major aspect of rape culture. When I looked up case studies on rape culture, two of the first papers(not sure if they're case studies) are geared through analyzing patterns of date rape and sexual violence in college-aged people.
 

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Ah so you're an unintelligent troll. Allow me to block

All your threads fail because you know absolutely nothing about the topics you bring up. It's been a recurring trend with you.
 

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That argument can't even be used to define rape culture anyway as there are people that talk like this but don't really act on it

Dammit man, I'm on your bloody side :lol I'm only allowing them the opportunity to present more concrete data than "the guy Bill Maher shoves into a locker every day" to see if they can make their argument stand on proper scrutiny.
 

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Dammit man, I'm on your bloody side :lol I'm only allowing them the opportunity to present more concrete data than "the guy Bill Maher shoves into a locker every day" to see if they can make their argument stand on proper scrutiny.

I know I'm infamous on here but tht's kinda jacked, my feels :|


All your threads fail because you know absolutely nothing about the topics you bring up. It's been a recurring trend with you.

Sure. Let me know when you're ready to take all the L's that the feminist did when they tried to prove the wage gap
 

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phenomenon
someone or something that is very impressive or popular especially because of an unusual ability or quality

Full Definition of phenomenon
plural phenomenaplay play \-nə, -ˌnä\ or phenomenons
1
plural phenomena : an observable fact or event
2
plural phenomena
a : an object or aspect known through the senses rather than by thought or intuition
b : a temporal or spatiotemporal object of sensory experience as distinguished from a noumenon
c : a fact or event of scientific interest susceptible to scientific description and explanation
3
a : a rare or significant fact or event
b plural phenomenons : an exceptional, unusual, or abnormal person, thing, or occurrence

noun, plural phenomena [fi-nom-uh-nuh] (Show IPA), or especially for 3, phenomenons.
1.
a fact, occurrence, or circumstance observed or observable:
to study the phenomena of nature.
2.
something that is impressive or extraordinary.
3.
a remarkable or exceptional person; prodigy; wonder.
4.
Philosophy.
an appearance or immediate object of awareness in experience.
Kantianism. a thing as it appears to and is constructed by the mind, as distinguished from a noumenon, or thing-in-itself.

phe·nom·e·non
fəˈnäməˌnän,fəˈnäməˌnən/Submit
noun
1.
a fact or situation that is observed to exist or happen, especially one whose cause or explanation is in question.

Those bolded are what "rape culture" falls under, not the others.

You can't disprove that we don't live in a chinese culture (coined the same way rape culture is) without sounding like a hypocrite to your own logic

Yes, we can, because the concept of "rape culture" isn't an actual culture. While the specific parameters are still debated, it's generally agreed upon that "rape culture" is the concept of any pervasive, normalization of rape within a society.

That argument can't even be used to define rape culture anyway as there are people that talk like this but don't really act on it

You don't have to act on those expressions in order for it to be classified as rape culture. Expressing it counts.
 

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Dammit man, I'm on your bloody side :lol I'm only allowing them the opportunity to present more concrete data than "the guy Bill Maher shoves into a locker every day" to see if they can make their argument stand on proper scrutiny.

I noticed you mentioned Trump, but how come you didn't comment on the judges that trivialized rape, such as in the Brock Turner case and the case I linked earlier, and the increasing prevalence of rape fetishes in mainstream pornography?
 

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Yes, because dictionary definitions aren't relevant because you say so. Rape isn't normalized in our society and like I said, if we do agree with your logic, we live in a Spanish Culture. You sound like an idiot
 
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