Hebi Sasuke vs. Jiraiya

[Zexion~]

Well whatever the case, breaking bones and any internal damage doesn't affect him in the slightest. You actually need to dismember him, blunt force attacks aren't cutting it.

And yea Base Gai is not beating Hidan and he can't disarm Hidan when the scythe is wrapped around him, wherever the scythe goes Hidan goes, if Gai pulled on the scythe, Hidan comes with it.

Agreed

I doubt he'd even be able to disarm him either way, Kisame isn't as quick with his weapon as Hidan can be :lol not to mention Kakashi showed no signs of even pressuring Hidan in CQC when they clashed even if Kakuzu was there no advance was made, nor was Asuma really pressuring him either.

 

[TRE MERCER]

Wrong Hidan is not just immortal he can withstand any amount of internal damage include broken bones as he heals from it instantly. He was moving with zero drawbacks with a broken spinal cord. Broken ribcage etc.
He has a healing factor.

Break a zombies spinal cord and they can't walk straight it's physically impossible. As long as its not dismemberment he laughs it off.

This is absolutely baseless.

 

[Zexion~]

This is absolutely baseless.

Except when in the manga he was moving without a nervous system functioning, when he had a wound that rendered Asuma's leg useless yet his was fine, when he impaled his spine and didn't even flinch :lol

Stop.

 

[TRE MERCER]

Except when in the manga he was moving without a nervous system functioning, when he had a wound that rendered Asuma's leg useless yet his was fine, when he impaled his spine and didn't even flinch :lol

Stop.

No you stop with the BS. 6Gate Gai shatters Hidan bones completely rendering his movement completely null. You clowns don't know the difference between Immortality and durability. Once he's hit with this. He's done for.

Hidan body never moved with a torn spine. Hidan can't ever move when all his bones are broken end of discussion.

 

[Zexion~]

No you stop with the BS. 6Gate Gai shatters Hidan bones completely rendering his movement completely null. You clowns don't know the difference between Immortality and durability. Once he's hit with this. He's done for.

Hidan body never moved with a torn spine. Hidan can't ever move when all his bones are broken end of discussion.

Re-read his fight please you're a known fool so I'm not wasting much effort here, but his head was decapitated...do you understand what that means? Neck bone which connects the head to the body as well as the brain to the rest of the nervous system was sliced in half yet all it took was a few stitches and his body was as good as new again :lol and please let me know how every bone was broken in the fodder that was hit with ASK's body ended up.

 

[TRE MERCER]

Re-read his fight please you're a known fool so I'm not wasting much effort here, but his head was decapitated...do you understand what that means? Neck bone which connects the head to the body as well as the brain to the rest of the nervous system was sliced in half yet all it took was a few stitches and his body was as good as new again :lol and please let me know how every bone was broken in the fodder that was hit with ASK's body ended up.

His body completely fell flat after his head was cut off. Kakuzu stitching his head back together clearly repaird his ligaments but this is Naruto everything of the anatomy is not to be taken exactly literally.

If were going by real world standards then he easily shatters Hidans bones since he already punched through solid stone in his base[

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Hidan gets recked end of discussion.

 

[ToshiZO]

No you stop with the BS. 6Gate Gai shatters Hidan bones completely rendering his movement completely null. You clowns don't know the difference between Immortality and durability. Once he's hit with this. He's done for.

Hidan body never moved with a torn spine. Hidan can't ever move when all his bones are broken end of discussion.

Its best not to talk about subjects you have no knowledge of. Hidan has moved through a broken spinal cord without any drawbacks, he's stabbed his femur, had his ribcage pierced through.

You look like a dumbass right now.

 

[Booker]

Re-read his fight please you're a known fool so I'm not wasting much effort here, but his head was decapitated...do you understand what that means? Neck bone which connects the head to the body as well as the brain to the rest of the nervous system was sliced in half yet all it took was a few stitches and his body was as good as new again :lol and please let me know how every bone was broken in the fodder that was hit with ASK's body ended up.

If what you're claiming were true, bomb tags never would have dismembered Hidan. And yet they did. So excessive blunt force does do lasting damage to Hidan.

 

[ToshiZO]

If what you're claiming were true, bomb tags never would have dismembered Hidan. And yet they did. So excessive blunt force does do lasting damage to Hidan.

Nope, the tags only dismembered him after he was wired with sharp wires putting pressure on his joints. An explosion after he was immobile acting on the pressure via the wires leading to dismemberment.

Besides a bomb attached to a limb is not the same thing as blunt damage. Also Obito got hit with a bunch of paper bombs, his head, legs etc. were still in place the worst it did was one arm. Hidan was also in the core of Asuma's explosive fire jutsu, nothing happened. So yea its not the explosion alone which cause his body parts to separate, Hidan canonically tanked an explosion.

Lmfao now people are starting to claim a punch from Gai will dismember him. You tried your best unfortunately you can't come up with anything here

 

[Booker]

Nope, the tags only dismembered him after he was wired with sharp wires putting pressure on his joints. An explosion after he was immobile acting on the pressure via the wires leading to dismemberment.

Besides a bomb attached to a limb is not the same thing as blunt damage. Also Obito got hit with a bunch of paper bombs, his head, legs etc. were still in place the worst it did was one arm. Hidan was also in the core of Asuma's explosive fire jutsu, nothing happened. So yea its not the explosion alone which cause his body parts to separate, Hidan canonically tanked an explosion.

Lmfao now people are starting to claim a punch from Gai will dismember him. You tried your best unfortunately you can't come up with anything here

Except Hidan was decapitated at the neck despite no wire being wrapped around it.

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And yes, Gai can absolutely rip people apart with Asakujaku, if I'm being generous. Punches that generate enough friction to create fire are absolutely within the destructive power of an explosion. On top of that, Gai has obliterated thick concrete walls with punches in base. Good luck keeping an arm/leg/head after one of those concentrated at that area.

 

[Zexion~]

His body completely fell flat after his head was cut off. Kakuzu stitching his head back together clearly repaird his ligaments but this is Naruto everything of the anatomy is not to be taken exactly literally.

If were going by real world standards then he easily shatters Hidans bones since he already punched through solid stone in his base[

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Hidan gets recked end of discussion.

If what you're claiming were true, bomb tags never would have dismembered Hidan. And yet they did. So excessive blunt force does do lasting damage to Hidan.

Except Hidan was decapitated at the neck despite no wire being wrapped around it.

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And yes, Gai can absolutely rip people apart with Asakujaku, if I'm being generous. Punches that generate enough friction to create fire are absolutely within the destructive power of an explosion. On top of that, Gai has obliterated thick concrete walls with punches in base. Good luck keeping an arm/leg/head after one of those concentrated at that area.

Lmaoooooooooooooooo dear god

@Tre as Toshi said why would real life logic effect one (asuma) but not the other (Hidan) Asuma's leg was limp after the wound yet Hidan's worked fine, as for the decapitation point either way he has other feats if you don't want to believe that one, just think of all the wounds he's inflicted upon himself since becoming immortal, you're saying if he accidentally breaks a bone he's done for?


@Booker since when are explosions only blunt damage.....they have flames to them as well that burn away the skin :lol

Also Hidan already had his head slice half off so your point is incredibly dumb here :lol no one is saying he's immune to brunt force we're saying his body will function despite any internal wounds it creates, just like how he could still move his head around despite all that "force" hitting him from the dozens of paper bombs exploding right under it. (if you think his face wasn't struck by force you're a moron)

lol @ Gai ripping off limbs with ASK WHEN WE HAVE A CLEAR PICTURE OF WHAT IT DOES TO A HUMAN NO DEBATE NEEDED

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[lelerskates]

Except the force isn't acting on every single point on the body at once :lol so he can still move his scythe if he continues to try while getting hit.

You know... I can't believe I'm saying this but you sound so stupid arguing this that you're actually making me like KG

 

[Zexion~]

You know... I can't believe I'm saying this but you sound so stupid arguing this that you're actually making me like KG

Good, won't change the fact that no one likes you tho.

 

[Booker]

Lmaoooooooooooooooo dear god

@Tre as Toshi said why would real life logic effect one (asuma) but not the other (Hidan) Asuma's leg was limp after the wound yet Hidan's worked fine, as for the decapitation point either way he has other feats if you don't want to believe that one, just think of all the wounds he's inflicted upon himself since becoming immortal, you're saying if he accidentally breaks a bone he's done for?


@Booker since when are explosions only blunt damage.....they have flames to them as well that burn away the skin :lol

Also Hidan already had his head slice half off so your point is incredibly dumb here :lol no one is saying he's immune to brunt force we're saying his body will function despite any internal wounds it creates, just like how he could still move his head around despite all that "force" hitting him from the dozens of paper bombs exploding right under it. (if you think his face wasn't struck by force you're a moron)

lol @ Gai ripping off limbs with ASK WHEN WE HAVE A CLEAR PICTURE OF WHAT IT DOES TO A HUMAN NO DEBATE NEEDED

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Great, so as long as you admit that blunt force such as explosions dismembers Hidan, this discussion becomes incredibly simple;

Gai obliterates every limb on his body with Asujaku and even has the potential to dismember him with a base punch that shattered an incredibly thick concrete wall. Not sure why you think that wouldn't behead Hidan when a bomb tag did.

Both times Asakujaku was used was against Kisame, who has far greater durability than Hidan. So that isn't applicable.

 

[Jugram Haschwalth]

Wow how did this become a Gai vs Hidan thread im so confused?

 

[Zexion~]

Great, so as long as you admit that blunt force such as explosions dismembers Hidan, this discussion becomes incredibly simple;

Gai obliterates every limb on his body with Asujaku and even has the potential to dismember him with a base punch that shattered an incredibly thick concrete wall. Not sure why you think that wouldn't behead Hidan when a bomb tag did.

Both times Asakujaku was used was against Kisame, who has far greater durability than Hidan. So that isn't applicable.

Was never trying to say Hidan denies the laws of physics his body simply denies the laws of anatomy :lol how exactly does he have far greater durability than Hidan when he was taken out by his own sharks with ease? He survived a lessened Hirudora when Gai already didn't want to kill him :lol and Gai has direct input into how strong the attack is as the strength is based on the amount of force used with the punch.

Even arguing Kisame has greater durability it was used on a doppelganger that only had Kisame's chakra, unless you're going to tell me its his chakra that makes him durable which is plausible but you'd have to come up with an explanation.

Not to mention the ratio of Kisame's durability to a humans would have to be incredibly high in order to receive absolutely next to ZERO external wounds when you're saying a human would be ground to dust.

 

[Lord Tywin]

Thats not how it works. There are characters who aren't kages out there who are at that level that can be beaten.

And those characters are kage level. They don't have the rank of the kage, but are in the same tier.

 

[TRE MERCER]

Its best not to talk about subjects you have no knowledge of. Hidan has moved through a broken spinal cord without any drawbacks, he's stabbed his femur, had his ribcage pierced through.

You look like a dumbass right now.

So Hidan can move if all his bones were crushed? Just stop how can you stand up without anything supporting your structure? Kakuzu stitches obviously replaced his ligaments since he couldn't move before the stitches then he could move after the stitches your the dumbass here.

Lmaoooooooooooooooo dear god

@Tre as Toshi said why would real life logic effect one (asuma) but not the other (Hidan) Asuma's leg was limp after the wound yet Hidan's worked fine, as for the decapitation point either way he has other feats if you don't want to believe that one, just think of all the wounds he's inflicted upon himself since becoming immortal, you're saying if he accidentally breaks a bone he's done for?

Asuma got put on his ass via damage and pain Hidan is so used to intense pain he just screams and laughs it off. He gets his bones broken by Gai in 6gate of gai could simply plow his back to shit and crush his spin rindering his movement null Gai stomps.

 

[Lord Tywin]

You better not be arguing for Gai being unable to cut Hidan's head off

 

[Booker]

Was never trying to say Hidan denies the laws of physics his body simply denies the laws of anatomy :lol how exactly does he have far greater durability than Hidan when he was taken out by his own sharks with ease? He survived a lessened Hirudora when Gai already didn't want to kill him :lol and Gai has direct input into how strong the attack is as the strength is based on the amount of force used with the punch.

Even arguing Kisame has greater durability it was used on a doppelganger that only had Kisame's chakra, unless you're going to tell me its his chakra that makes him durable which is plausible but you'd have to come up with an explanation.

Not to mention the ratio of Kisame's durability to a humans would have to be incredibly high in order to receive absolutely next to ZERO external wounds when you're saying a human would be ground to dust.

In most things, blunt force damage differs from sharp damage. Kisame demonstrated great blunt force durability, but nothing special when it comes to sharp durability (hence why his sharks ripped him apart).

I agree Hirudora was weakened and we all know Gai wasn't trying to kill Kisame, but that doesn't make the durability feats any less impressive. Kisame factually tanked punches that had so much velocity and focused force behind them that they literally create fireballs, lol. Do you have any idea how much concentrated power needs to be behind something like the human fist to generate a fireball? A lot.

And yes, chakra is obviously what gives people their heightened durability. This is shown throughout the manga, focused/increased chakra means higher durability. Not surprising considering Kisame has one of the highest non-bijuu chakra reserves in the entire manga.

Yes, that is actually exactly what I'm saying.

If a bomb tag took Hidan's head off, Gai's punches can do the same. I'll even be generous and say that base Gai's punches won't be able to. But if he activates any Gates, no way are Hidan's limbs staying on his body. I don't deny that he survives, since Hidan survives pretty much any attack in the manga. But he would absolutely be incapacitated.