Hebi Sasuke vs. Jiraiya

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So Hidan can move if all his bones were crushed? Just stop how can you stand up without anything supporting your structure? Kakuzu stitches obviously replaced his ligaments since he couldn't move before the stitches then he could move after the stitches your the dumbass here.


Asuma got put on his ass via damage and pain Hidan is so used to intense pain he just screams and laughs it off. He gets his bones broken by Gai in 6gate of gai could simply plow his back to shit and crush his spin rindering his movement null Gai stomps.
Asuma was limping even after he fell to the ground please read the arc again as you are sounding dumb right now.

If every bone in his body is simply broken than yes, he can still move them as shown in the manga. If they are ground to dust? Probably not.
 

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In most things, blunt force damage differs from sharp damage. Kisame demonstrated great blunt force durability, but nothing special when it comes to sharp durability (hence why his sharks ripped him apart).

I agree Hirudora was weakened and we all know Gai wasn't trying to kill Kisame, but that doesn't make the durability feats any less impressive. Kisame factually tanked punches that had so much velocity and focused force behind them that they literally create fireballs, lol. Do you have any idea how much concentrated power needs to be behind something like the human fist to generate a fireball? A lot.

And yes, chakra is obviously what gives people their heightened durability. This is shown throughout the manga, focused/increased chakra means higher durability. Not surprising considering Kisame has one of the highest non-bijuu chakra reserves in the entire manga.




Yes, that is actually exactly what I'm saying.

If a bomb tag took Hidan's head off, Gai's punches can do the same. I'll even be generous and say that base Gai's punches won't be able to. But if he activates any Gates, no way are Hidan's limbs staying on his body. I don't deny that he survives, since Hidan survives pretty much any attack in the manga. But he would absolutely be incapacitated.
You still have to focus that chakra though, just having the massive stores of chakra shouldn't increase your durability or every Jin should be just as if not more durable, but its not till they focus it into a cloak that the durability increases we see nothing of the sort from Kisame.

I still don't believe you're statement about gates flying limbs off of Hidan until you provide proof that Kisame was voluntarily increasing his durability, lets not forget his head was taken off by a lariat (Zetsu's jutsu was very similar to the doppelganger one)

Again his head was already half off when the bomb took it off, not to mention there IS a wire relatively close to Hidan's neck in the scan you posted, if the cut in his neck WASN'T the cause of his neck being blown off we also wouldn't have gotten a perfectly preserved head, as that too would have been blown to pieces.
 
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Asuma was limping even after he fell to the ground please read the arc again as you are sounding dumb right now.

If every bone in his body is simply broken than yes, he can still move them as shown in the manga. If they are ground to dust? Probably not.
That scan proves nothing at all. Hidan didn't move directly after that. Hidan can't move if every bone in his body is broken he body fell completely flat after his head was cut off. That should tell you that damage to his spinal region cause him to collapse like any other ninja.
 

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You still have to focus that chakra though, just having the massive stores of chakra shouldn't increase your durability or every Jin should be just as if not more durable, but its not till they focus it into a cloak that the durability increases we see nothing of the sort from Kisame.

I still don't believe you're statement about gates flying limbs off of Hidan until you provide proof that Kisame was voluntarily increasing his durability, lets not forget his head was taken off by a lariat (Zetsu's jutsu was very similar to the doppelganger one)

Again his head was already half off when the bomb took it off, not to mention there IS a wire relatively close to Hidan's neck in the scan you posted, if the cut in his neck WASN'T the cause of his neck being blown off we also wouldn't have gotten a perfectly preserved head, as that too would have been blown to pieces.
Absolutely, whenever those Jins are actually using their Bijuu chakra they gain incredible durability. Kisame is similar, his chakra reserves are just naturally massive so he constantly has heightened durability. My personal theory is that what makes him look like a shark constantly, actually.

Lariat uses Raiton which has a cutting nature, so that isn't a surprise.

His head was half off at that time? I wasn't aware of that, what scans are you pulling that from? I see a cut on his neck but nothing suggesting it's even close to falling off. This is like saying scraping my hand means it's liable to half-fall off at any time. We don't know if the head was perfectly severed, either, since we cannot see the direct bottom of the neck. Since the bomb took it off, it likely would be ragged and not very pretty.

All this to say that Hidan hasn't displayed any feats suggesting he can tank Gai's Gated punches without significant damage to his limbs, especially with the bomb tags doing similar things.
 

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So Hidan can move if all his bones were crushed? Just stop how can you stand up without anything supporting your structure? Kakuzu stitches obviously replaced his ligaments since he couldn't move before the stitches then he could move after the stitches your the dumbass here.


Asuma got put on his ass via damage and pain Hidan is so used to intense pain he just screams and laughs it off. He gets his bones broken by Gai in 6gate of gai could simply plow his back to shit and crush his spin rindering his movement null Gai stomps.
God you're stupid.

Two blades through his ribcage
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Giant scythe right through spine.
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Lemme guess you are going to say it magically missed all his bones Lmfao?

Then there is this
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He sticks a spear right through his spine,just incase you have something stupid to say, look at his X ray markings, he hit right through where his spinal cord is marked . Like I said, you don't need to chime in on something you have no idea about.

And just incase your dumbass doesn't get it let me show you where the spine is located
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The scythe goes right through the lower spine, and the spear goes right through his spinal cord. He broke right through it, zombie or not it is physically impossible to move with a broken spine, he does it, take it up with Kishi not me. Internal injuries/ broken bones do absolutely nothing to Hidan.


Except Hidan was decapitated at the neck despite no wire being wrapped around it.

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And yes, Gai can absolutely rip people apart with Asakujaku, if I'm being generous. Punches that generate enough friction to create fire are absolutely within the destructive power of an explosion. On top of that, Gai has obliterated thick concrete walls with punches in base. Good luck keeping an arm/leg/head after one of those concentrated at that area.
Lmfao stop posting nonsense. Asa Kujaku couldn't even do anything serious [ ] [ ]. Stop making shit up to compensate for your lack of arguments.

And Hidan's head being blown off like I said could be because he already had it stitched up recently AND Shikamaru just put a deep cut on his neck before that. Unless you can explain to me how Obito despite being in an ocean of paper bombs kept his head, just stop.

Hidan already tanked an explosion
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Not to mention explosions ≠ blunt force punches. It's a different type of attack entirely.

Stop with these lame rebuttals.
 
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Some idiots think Hidan can beat base Gai and 6 gates Gai.
And yet no one here brings any reason for any one to believe he doesn't. The closest thing to it was Gai taking Hidan's weapon but Hidan's weapon is wrapped all around his body, you can't simply disarm him like that.

And at best that is a situational deal, doesn't even have to be the case. The sooner you accept there are matchups in this manga the better.
 

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lol why not

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Lmaooo truuueee if thats the VIZ scan

Absolutely, whenever those Jins are actually using their Bijuu chakra they gain incredible durability. Kisame is similar, his chakra reserves are just naturally massive so he constantly has heightened durability. My personal theory is that what makes him look like a shark constantly, actually.

Lariat uses Raiton which has a cutting nature, so that isn't a surprise.

His head was half off at that time? I wasn't aware of that, what scans are you pulling that from? I see a cut on his neck but nothing suggesting it's even close to falling off. This is like saying scraping my hand means it's liable to half-fall off at any time. We don't know if the head was perfectly severed, either, since we cannot see the direct bottom of the neck. Since the bomb took it off, it likely would be ragged and not very pretty.

All this to say that Hidan hasn't displayed any feats suggesting he can tank Gai's Gated punches without significant damage to his limbs, especially with the bomb tags doing similar things.
That is my theory on Kisame as well, but even so if Kisame at 30% durability can fully tank it, I don't see it blasting limbs of like you say, also could you inform me on how exactly the friction factors in here? I know its good for grinding but my physics is lacking lol

He's tanked Atsugai without any damage (externally) at all also as Toshi said he had it stitched on and the cut was pretty deep, if you look at the blood pattern after the explosion it looks as though the cut was blown open to me but that could simply be perceptual bias.

God you're stupid.

Two blades through his ribcage
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Giant scythe right through spine.
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Lemme guess you are going to say it magically missed all his bones Lmfao?

Then there is this
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He sticks a spear right through his spine,just incase you have something stupid to say, look at his X ray markings, he hit right through where his spinal cord is marked . Like I said, you don't need to chime in on something you have no idea about.

And just incase your dumbass doesn't get it let me show you where the spine is located
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.

The scythe goes right through the lower spine, and the spear goes right through his spinal cord. He broke right through it, zombie or not it is physically impossible to move with a broken spine, he does it, take it up with Kishi not me. Internal injuries/ broken bones do absolutely nothing to Hidan.




Lmfao stop posting nonsense. Asa Kujaku couldn't even do anything serious. Stop making shit up to compensate for your lack of arguments.

And Hidan's head being blown off like I said could be because he already had it stitched up recently AND Shikamaru just put a deep cut on his neck before that. Unless you can explain to me how Obito despite being in an ocean of paper bombs kept his head, just stop.

Hidan already tanked an explosion
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Stop with these lame rebuttals.
That scan though, so bad-ass excuse me while I go watch the immortals arc on BR-DVD for the 50th time.
 

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Lmaooo truuueee if thats the VIZ scan



That is my theory on Kisame as well, but even so if Kisame at 30% durability can fully tank it, I don't see it blasting limbs of like you say, also could you inform me on how exactly the friction factors in here? I know its good for grinding but my physics is lacking lol

He's tanked Atsugai without any damage (externally) at all also as Toshi said he had it stitched on and the cut was pretty deep, if you look at the blood pattern after the explosion it looks as though the cut was blown open to me but that could simply be perceptual bias.



That scan though, so bad-ass excuse me while I go watch the immortals arc on BR-DVD for the 50th time.
Lol you funny.
 

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Jman takes this
- he has bigger katon
- pa's suiton suidanha
- more versatility
- better stamina
- has more experience
- more chakra
- physically superior

Jman outclasses hebi sasuke in every category bar genjutsu, and ma or pa can snap jman out of sasuke's genjutsu (he aint got no tsukiyomi) and his genjutsu aint even on itachi's level
 
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