Hebi Sasuke vs. Jiraiya

[KidGamer65]

lmao. fine I'll agree. but ask me these questions.

that karin quote came after sasuke dodged B's lariat and that seemed about as impressive as the elbow no?

if sasuke blocked senbon then jiraiya jumped up to prepare for big ball rasengan (COR?), what's to stop sasuke from just using his hand to cast chidori spear, it has plenty of range and speed to intercept does it not?

yeah, I forgot they could sense even when manda is underground. but that hasn't stopped him from getting flanked by another target. what's to stop sasuke from using that distraction underneath, then sasuke shunshin flank jiraiya or the frog with genjutsu like he did against C (who also happen to be a sensor)

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Yeah, sasuke can keep his wing up, but leave enough room for him to see. he did it after blocking itachi's FB

-Yeah, he did evade B beforehand, so he's still extremely fast.

-Jumped up? That's not necessary. If Jiraiya charged at Sasuke w/ COR and Sasuke used Chidori Spear Jiraiya would plow right through it. In terms of power COR>>>Rasengan=Chidori>Chidori variants.

-That was Bunta, not Jiraiya, Ma, Pa and Bunta. This time around 3 of them can sense chakra so Sasuke isn't landing any type of surprise attack or anything of that nature. If Manda is summoned it gets sunk. If it moves underground it still gets sunk since Yomi Numa turns earth into a swamp. So in reality Manda would never even make it back above ground.

 

[Jugram Haschwalth]

-Yeah, he did evade B beforehand, so he's still extremely fast.

-Jumped up? That's not necessary. If Jiraiya charged at Sasuke w/ COR and Sasuke used Chidori Spear Jiraiya would plow right through it. In terms of power COR>>>Rasengan=Chidori>Chidori variants.

-That was Bunta, not Jiraiya, Ma, Pa and Bunta. This time around 3 of them can sense chakra so Sasuke isn't landing any type of surprise attack or anything of that nature. If Manda is summoned it gets sunk. If it moves underground it still gets sunk since Yomi Numa turns earth into a swamp. So in reality Manda would never even make it back above ground.

How is sinking a counter for Manda when Manda can move like a dolphin underwater?

 

[KidGamer65]

How is sinking a counter for Manda when Manda can move like a dolphin underwater?

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[Jugram Haschwalth]

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I was referring to him moving undergroud with ease lol. My lack of information in the text definitely was.is confusing.

 

[KidGamer65]

I was referring to him moving undergroud with ease lol. My lack of information in the text definitely was.is confusing.

Swamp of adhesive mud=/=Underground. That's the issue. :lol

 

[Jugram Haschwalth]

Swamp of adhesive mud=/=Underground. That's the issue. :lol

Except the swamp is doton so Sasuke channeling his raition to defuse the adhesive chakra is a very possibly option. Manda still should have the strength to overcome the swamp once he's sinked deep enough.

 

[KidGamer65]

Except the swamp is doton so Sasuke channeling his raition to defuse the adhesive chakra is a very possibly option. Manda still should have the strength to overcome the swamp once he's sinked deep enough.

True, but then he leaves himself open for Jiraiya to attack him since he has to be in the swamp or touching it to negate it, which was the second point of the attack.

 

[NarutoX28]

Except the swamp is doton so Sasuke channeling his raition to defuse the adhesive chakra is a very possibly option. Manda still should have the strength to overcome the swamp once he's sinked deep enough.

That's dependent on whether or not Sasuke's level of chakra is enough to diffuse Jiraiya's Doton.

 

[Jugram Haschwalth]

True, but then he leaves himself open for Jiraiya to attack him since he has to be in the swamp or touching it to negate it, which was the second point of the attack.

Not true when he'll be on

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. He also won't need to take his attention off Jiraiya when he can toss his sword into the swamp and diffuse it that way.

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. Or he could use

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That's dependent on whether or not Sasuke's level of chakra is enough to diffuse Jiraiya's Doton.

Level of chakra? What are you even talking about?

 

[KidGamer65]

Not true when he'll be on

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. He also won't need to take his attention off Jiraiya when he can toss his sword into the swamp and diffuse it that way.

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Level of chakra? What are you even talking about?

Jiraiya made that swamp while drugged. SM Jiraiya's swamp would easily be over twice as large so Manda would be submerged the moment the swamp is activated, so if he's on Manda's head he'd be inside of the swamp, or at least very close to the swamp. And he was only able to do so because his sword had enough Raiton on it for the bomb it touched, how is he going to channel Raiton throughout the entire swamp without using Chidori Nagashi? He can't channel extra chakra into his sword without holding it.

 

[Jugram Haschwalth]

Jiraiya made that swamp while drugged. SM Jiraiya's swamp would easily be over twice as large so Manda would be submerged the moment the swamp is activated, so if he's on Manda's head he'd be inside of the swamp, or at least very close to the swamp. And he was only able to do so because his sword had enough Raiton on it for the bomb it touched, how is he going to channel Raiton throughout the entire swamp without using Chidori Nagashi? He can't channel extra chakra into his sword without holding it.

I agree the swamp would be Bigger but Manda should also be bigger than the snake that was shown present. Swamps contain water so the raition would channel naturally if im correct. If worst comes to play Sasuke just lets Manda sink though.

 

[NarutoX28]

Level of chakra? What are you even talking about?

The impact elemental attacks have against another is dependent on the amount of chakra used in each attack. An element can even overcome an advantageous element depending on the user's proficiency and how much chakra is used in the attack which is why multiple ninja using Suiton were required to counter Madara's Katon.

 

[Booker]

Huh? Why does it have to be a one shot? He can repeatedly put holes in himself.



You had a sig before, it made me laugh everytime I read it because it showed how clueless you were. No intel and he beats some of those characters. Just like your current sig, when you have something thats arguable and you put dumb gifs like that, it comes off as a fail.


Lmfao this is hilarious considering what you typed next.



Lmfaoo you are a living contradiction you say all this VS scenario nonsense here, yet completely ignore it in other parts of the same damn post. Saying the opposite thing when in it comes to Shikamaru and him taking Hidan down in the context of the story.

Not to mention what I said can be applied to VS threads.

With no intel: Even in vs battles, nobody pays mind to it unless out of character. Which isn't even the case in 90% of threads.
With intel: Characters are cautious knowing engaging Hidan is dangerous due to him being immortal and only needing a drop of blood, so it only works in his favour that someone tries to rush at him while he is drawing the circle (which he can do at the beginning of the battle).

You are far too stupid to continue talking to if you honestly believe Hidan beats Bijuus on his own.

It wouldn't matter because crippling two Kage level opponents in 2-3 exchanges through a cleverly designed ambush doesn't reflect a low Jonin level ninja at all. I don't care what your presumption of the entire situation is when Kakashi, one of the most intellectual ninja in the manga praised Shikamaru for his intelligence. It wasn't a half-assed plan that anyone could think of out of the blue and it certainly is a blatant contradiction to what Kishimoto conveyed in the Databook.

For example, you conveyed that analyzing Hidan's abilities and formulating a strategy against it wasn't impressive, but Kishimoto disagrees:



Fact of the matter is, you're discounting multiple factors such as Hidan letting his guard down which is explicitly stated in both the Manga and the Databook. Hidan losing to Shikamaru doesn't devalue Hidan's position as a ninja or his performance against both Asuma and Shikamaru simultaneously.

Everything you're saying is just irrelevant nonsense that isn't addressing what I'm saying.

Who cares what Shikamaru was capable of? None of it validates Hidan being Kage level. If you give Shikamaru the same prep and the same amount of intel about any ACTUAL Kage, he wouldn't stand a chance.

So, yes, it absolutely does invalidate Hidan's supposed Kage-level status. Either that, or he's the most pathetic and easy to counter Kage opponent in the entire manga, because some bomb tags and wire hard countered him. Ouch.

 

[Lord Tywin]

hidan taking on a bijuu was PIS

 

[unknownvillain1254]

Oro is neither of three and he needs sacrifices for summoning edo's

Doesn't change the fact he got his ass whooped by 3T 14 y.o Itachi

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lemme make that red bar more red

Edo hiashiz would Drag itachi is he is basically hiashi with unlimited Chaka

 

[The Messiah]

Edo hiashiz would Drag itachi is he is basically hiashi with unlimited Chaka

I see why your dumbass has a red bar.

 

[Beans2]

Jiraiya wins after entering Sage Mode. With Ma and Pa on his shoulders to immediately break him out of genjutsu (in the unlikely event that he's caught) guarantees his victory. Sasuke can't keep up with Jiraiya's constant ninjutsu spam of Goemon and COR, especially since his speed can be countered by Frog Call, Yomi Numa, or both. Manda gets sunk into a swamp.

 

[ToshiZO]

You are far too stupid to continue talking to if you honestly believe Hidan beats Bijuus on his own.



Everything you're saying is just irrelevant nonsense that isn't addressing what I'm saying.

Who cares what Shikamaru was capable of? None of it validates Hidan being Kage level. If you give Shikamaru the same prep and the same amount of intel about any ACTUAL Kage, he wouldn't stand a chance.

So, yes, it absolutely does invalidate Hidan's supposed Kage-level status. Either that, or he's the most pathetic and easy to counter Kage opponent in the entire manga, because some bomb tags and wire hard countered him. Ouch.

I honestly don't even know why you're typing. You want to rewrite the manga that bad eh?

 

[unknownvillain1254]

I see why your dumbass has a red bar.

Because you are ignorant to the fact and don't understand the character don't put your ignorance on me if anything I know every character weakness and strong point.

Fact hiashi is hokage lvl his brother was said to be equal.

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

It's doubtful any of the three Sannin could initially push Itachi. Sasuke (though Itachi planned the whole fight accordingly) had the necessary tools to do so, none of the Sannin have such (even Orochimaru with Edo Tensei), seeing as how Itachi was capable of making Kabuto release the binding technique, and Dragon Sage Mode Kabuto > Pre-Zetsu Orochimaru.

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lol orochimaru uses mayflay and then ESP tensi Idaho gets raped