[VS] 3 Eyes Madara Jinchuuriki vs Kaguya both equal

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I am curious who would win if both Madara and Kaguya fight and they both have equal power level, power, strength, speed, chakra, etc.

This comes down to who fight better, who has better jutsu and who has better strategy.
 

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If you're lowering Kaguya's attributes (and taking Kaguya's immortality out of the equation) to SRG Juubidara's level, then Juubidara wins. He's spent his whole life in battle and has a wide array of offensive ninjutsu at his disposal. Kaguya relies heavily on two offensive techniques and typically relies on her ability to control the pace of battle rather than coming up with extensive strategies.

In fact, she solely relies on her power and isn't very skilled at all.
 

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If you're lowering Kaguya's attributes (and taking Kaguya's immortality out of the equation) to SRG Juubidara's level, then Juubidara wins. He's spent his whole life in battle and has a wide array of offensive ninjutsu at his disposal. Kaguya relies heavily on two offensive techniques and typically relies on her ability to control the pace of battle rather than coming up with extensive strategies.

In fact, she solely relies on her power and isn't very skilled at all.
I forgot about the whole immortality thing, I know Kaguya is immortal, but is Madara also immortal? Immortality in this battle isn't restricted.
 

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I forgot about the whole immortality thing, I know Kaguya is immortal, but is Madara also immortal? Immortality in this battle isn't restricted.
In that case, Madara probably dies after making an error. He is after all, human.


That aside, it would probably be a very long battle consisting of Madara "killing" her over and over. I should think that Tomogoroshi overrides Madara's "immortality" so once he slips up, it's over.
 

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How does Kaguya beat Madara? I would like to know your opinion.
Madara simply can't counter giant TSB for example. Another things is that Madara doesn't have a way out Kaguya's different dimensions. If he gets swapped into another dimension, he'd never get out.

Plus Kaguya is superior in every single stat of battle.
 

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Kaguya still wins because her Ninjutsu is on another scale completely. Equal strength and amount of chakra, physical abilities and speed doesn't change the fact that she can bust out a Gudo Dama capable of obliterating her entire main dimension nor does it change the fact her Ash Bones can obliterate his Susanoo. At best he'd be able to survive Eighty God Vacuum Attack, but that's nothing compared to the two jutsu I just mentioned.

Not like he can even put her down regardless of that.

Lmao @ skill being relevant here.
 

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I'm not sure why you would limit these qualities. The only thing Kaguya has over Madara is Chakra amount, but Chakra levels do not determine winner of the match-up in the same way Kisame didn't beat Gai, despite dwarfing his Chakra. The author officially states Madara is the strongest character, which this statement records to the end of the manga, meaning the author was taking in note of Kaguya too. Madara is stronger by direct official statement from the author. It's more valid than claims made by clowns of this website.

Preta Path made all of Kaguya's Jutsu worthless against Momoshiki; Kaguya's Jutsu are all worthless against Madara on that established reason too. Physical attributes like speed and strength are equal, when both are Jubi's and Rikudou Senjutsu users; one isn't going to be greater than the other, in the same way KCM Minato isn't faster than KCM Naruto. Madara would, however, beat Kaguya in CQC because his Limbos defeated Naruto's clones; Naruto bested Kaguya in CQC. Madara has the Rinne Sharingan like Kaguya, so he too is capable of dimensional travelling (portals). As far as power-level is concerned, Kaguya bests Madara on this by taking Chakra from the people trapped inside the IT, which the OP didn't clarify on that. Mind you, Madara being a Jubi's Jinchuriki means he too can shape planets, since Hagoromo was able to the world and created the moon. Madara having cast IT and Mokuton on planetary scale means he can do Rinnegan techniques on that scale too. They're comparable in power level.

Madara beats Kaguya by portrayal and feats.​
 

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Kaguya still wins because her Ninjutsu is on another scale completely. Equal strength and amount of chakra, physical abilities and speed doesn't change the fact that she can bust out a Gudo Dama capable of obliterating her entire main dimension nor does it change the fact her Ash Bones can obliterate his Susanoo. At best he'd be able to survive Eighty God Vacuum Attack, but that's nothing compared to the two jutsu I just mentioned.

Not like he can even put her down regardless of that.

Lmao @ skill being relevant here.
If Madara has Kaguya level of Chakra he could use her Dimension Abilities as well since he has the Rinne Sharingan... Well if Kaguya has chakra equal to JJ Madara then she can not use her Expansive Gudoma. She used IT chakra to create that and restore herself and even if Madara has the same chakra as her then he can escape the Dimension and the Gudoma... To me its seems that in both cases neither can put either down... Maybe if Madara uses the Soul path but... They are both immortal....
 

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If Madara has Kaguya level of Chakra he could use her Dimension Abilities as well since he has the Rinne Sharingan... Well if Kaguya has chakra equal to JJ Madara then she can not use her Expansive Gudoma. She used IT chakra to create that and restore herself and even if Madara has the same chakra as her then he can escape the Dimension and the Gudoma... To em its seems that in both cases neither can put either down... Maybe if Madara uses the Soul path but... They are both immortal....
Why would she drop down to Madara's level? Even if Kaguya did drop down to Madara's level, she still has her hax Ash Bones and Eighty God Vacuum Attack which is strong enough to obliterate his Susanoo while Madara has nothing to put her down. Being able to use Amenominaka doesn't even help him here. Sure, Madara can change dimensions, but only in the same manner that Kaguya does, and that's when she switches the entire world. He can switch the world, but Kaguya and her Gudo Dama will still be there so he'll still die with little effort. That's assuming she retains her chakra level.

So either way you wanna go at it, Madara doesn't stand a chance.
 

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Typical response, Josh/Joshua (KidGamer65's real name). Kingdom Hearts sure makes you well grown.
 

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Why would she drop down to Madara's level? Even if Kaguya did drop down to Madara's level, she still has her hax Ash Bones and Eighty God Vacuum Attack which is strong enough to obliterate his Susanoo while Madara has nothing to put her down. Being able to use Amenominaka doesn't even help him here. Sure, Madara can change dimensions, but only in the same manner that Kaguya does, and that's when she switches the entire world. He can switch the world, but Kaguya and her Gudo Dama will still be there so he'll still die with little effort. That's assuming she retains her chakra level.

So either way you wanna go at it, Madara doesn't stand a chance.
OP said equal chakra which could mean mean either Madara goes to Kaguya's level or Kaguya goes to Madara's... Ash bone is a hax tech but Limbo and PS can counter it... Madara's (Kaguya Lvl) PS would be >>>> Sasuke's and Limbo would also be a problem. Sure it may destroy PS but it can be resmpammed. Ash bone can be respammed as easily though? What about Limbo and Wood Clones? You forget though that there is a batter way to escape and that's Yomotsu Hirasaka tech which can be spammed and Madara goes to whatever Dimension wants without Kaguya knowing where to find him and escapes the Expansive Gudoma easily. Even if Kaguya switches Dimensions with Amenominaka so EG can be with her, it won't do good. Because she will have to switch entire Dimensions with EG so as to find Madara but even she finds him he just can escape again with Yomotsu Hirasaka. But Kaguya will lose a very large amount of chakra trying to find Madara...

The Rinne Sharingan Teleportation gives Madara a very good chance of escaping Expansive Gudoma... Though Kaguya would be able to use EG if her chakra is high and not depleted from the fight.
 
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OP said equal chakra which could mean mean either Madara goes to Kaguya's level or Kaguya goes to Madara's... Ash bone is a hax tech but Limbo and PS can counter it... Madara's (Kaguya Lvl) PS woulbe >>>> Sasuke's and Limbo would also be a problem. Sure it may destroy PS but it can be resmpammed. Ash bone can be respammed as easily though? What about Limbo and Wood Clones? You forget though that there is a batter way to escape and that's Yomotsu Hirasaka tech which can be spammed and Madara goes to whatever Dimension wants without Kaguya knowing where to find him and escapes the Expansive Gudoma easily.

The Rinne Sharingan Teleportation gives Madara a very good chance of escaping Expansive Gudoma... Though Kaguya would be able to use EG if her chakra is high and not depleted from the fight.
Madara's PS w/ Kaguya level chakra being able to take Ash Bones is irrelevant because then Kaguya would have access to her Gudo Dama which would obliterate Madara regardless of Susanoo, not like his PS being able to take multiple ash bones is based on anything anyway. And Limbo :lol No. All her techniques would hurt Limbo and ash bones would one shot as she has the Six Paths Chakra, she is the origin of it. So that doesn't help. Madara's PS being >>> Sasuke's doesn't help because Kaguya raped Sasuke's Susanoo with a few hits while low on chakra and when she started the fight she one shotted it.

And lol please don't tell me you think Madara can bust out PS as frequently as Kaguya can fire Ash Bones..

Yomotsu Hirasaka hasn't been shown to be a Dojutsu technique, so there's no reason why Madara would have access to it w/ Rinne Sharingan.
 

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I'm not sure why you would limit these qualities. The only thing Kaguya has over Madara is Chakra amount, but Chakra levels do not determine winner of the match-up in the same way Kisame didn't beat Gai, despite dwarfing his Chakra. The author officially states Madara is the strongest character, which this statement records to the end of the manga, meaning the author was taking in note of Kaguya too. Madara is stronger by direct official statement from the author. It's more valid than claims made by clowns of this website.

Preta Path made all of Kaguya's Jutsu worthless against Momoshiki; Kaguya's Jutsu are all worthless against Madara on that established reason too. Physical attributes like speed and strength are equal, when both are Jubi's and Rikudou Senjutsu users; one isn't going to be greater than the other, in the same way KCM Minato isn't faster than KCM Naruto. Madara would, however, beat Kaguya in CQC because his Limbos defeated Naruto's clones; Naruto bested Kaguya in CQC. Madara has the Rinne Sharingan like Kaguya, so he too is capable of dimensional travelling (portals). As far as power-level is concerned, Kaguya bests Madara on this by taking Chakra from the people trapped inside the IT, which the OP didn't clarify on that. Mind you, Madara being a Jubi's Jinchuriki means he too can shape planets, since Hagoromo was able to the world and created the moon. Madara having cast IT and Mokuton on planetary scale means he can do Rinnegan techniques on that scale too. They're comparable in power level.

Madara beats Kaguya by portrayal and feats.​
Then he claims he's not Madara rules. Why does this guy exist?
 

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All-Killing Ash Bone is countered by Almighty Push, Preta Path, Limbo, and chakra arms.
Eighty Gods Vacuum Attack is countered by chakra arms, as Naruto has shown.
Expansive Truth-Seeking Sphere, if she can even use that without disruption, is irrelevant since she has to be within 70m of it to control it, so it's a suicide attack and they both will regenerate eventually.

Limbo outnumbers Kaguya in close combat.
Sasuke's Perfect Susano'o almost had the speed to slice Kaguya, so Madara's should be more efficient with his abilities as well.
Sage Art: Storm Style: Light Fang can only be barely dodged by a fully concentrated Naruto, so through distraction it can be effective.
When it comes down to it, Madara will win in strategy when both of them can counter each other's moves very well. Madara also has far more variety of techniques to choose from.
 

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Madara's PS w/ Kaguya level chakra being able to take Ash Bones is irrelevant because then Kaguya would have access to her Gudo Dama which would obliterate Madara regardless of Susanoo, not like his PS being able to take multiple ash bones is based on anything anyway. And Limbo :lol No. All her techniques would hurt Limbo and ash bones would one shot as she has the Six Paths Chakra, she is the origin of it. So that doesn't help. Madara's PS being >>> Sasuke's doesn't help because Kaguya raped Sasuke's Susanoo with a few hits while low on chakra and when she started the fight she one shotted it.

And lol please don't tell me you think Madara can bust out PS as frequently as Kaguya can fire Ash Bones..

Yomotsu Hirasaka hasn't been shown to be a Dojutsu technique, so there's no reason why Madara would have access to it w/ Rinne Sharingan.
Limbo or Wood clones would be good for distraction. Sasuke spammed PS sometimes during Kaguya fight but you are not wrong. Limbo, Wood Clones, Gudoma also can guard you from Ash bones. Ash bones get countered. Yomotsu Hirasaka could be a Rinne Sharingan Tech. Nothing suggest that its not. Like Amenominaka its a space time tech and if Amenominaka is related to Rinne Sharingan maybe Yomotsu Hirasaka, could be too. Since its connected to Kaguya Dimensions. Could be wrong but if its not Rinne Sharing tech then how Kaguya has access to it? It doesn't make sense...
 

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Limbo or Wood clones would be good for distraction. Sasuke spammed PS sometimes during Kaguya fight but you are not wrong. Limbo, Wood Clones, Gudoma also can guard you from Ash bones. Ash bones get countered. Yomotsu Hirasaka could be a Rinne Sharingan Tech. Nothing suggest that its not. Like Amenominaka its a space time tech and if Amenominaka is related to Rinne Sharingan maybe Yomotsu Hirasaka, could be too. Since its connected to Kaguya Dimensions. Could be wrong but if its not Rinne Sharing tech then how Kaguya has access to it? It doesn't make sense...
Distraction? For what? She can spam Ash Bones. She can spam Eighty Gods Vacuum Attack. Gudo Dama envelops the entire area. Petty distractions aren't going to save his life here. L-M-A-O @ Gudo Dama blocking Ash Bones when they ripped through PS. If Madara wants to spam clones, Eighty Gods Vacuum Attack clears them out then the original gets raped by a bone. The bold also makes zero sense. If you want to give Madara the tech, prove it's a Rinnegan technique because the Manga hasn't proven that it is. It letting Kaguya travel through dimensions (not just hers, dimensions and across space in general) doesn't mean that it's connected to Amenominaka. Kamui can travel through Kaguya's dimensions yet it's separate from Amenominaka.

And the last sentence doesn't work either. Ash Bones aren't Rinne Sharingan techs, same with her hair manipulation jutsu yet she has access to them. Her abilities come from the chakra she obtained, they don't all come from her Dojutsu.
 
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