DRSM Madara vs R-Sasuke vs R-Obito

[4 Sword Style]

Naruto and Sasuke at that point stalemated in their last match Say's that they are roughly equal. It boiled down to the extent that Sasuke would have killed Naruto if it wasn't for Kurama and that Sasuke was not yet adept with his new abilities. ​

They definately not equals. Sasuke's best efforts got Naruto to use BD, Sasuke can't do anything about higher level BDs, Avatar Clones, and without the Biju chakra PS he cannonically gets blown away by Naruto's Ashura Avatar

 

[Awkward Linguist]

Any version of Madara aside from JJ gets crushed by rinnegan Sasuke and RSM Naruto. JJ Madara defeats Rinnegan Sasuke and RSM Naruto individually but together they're victorious. That's all you need to remember.​

 

[Edogawa]

Although one could theoretically attribute the other powers you mentioned in a non-plot influenced out of character Juubi Jinchuriki as a possibility, an IC Jinchuriki could never be attributed those feats. Its theory. Also, obito not using kamui was justified. Covered that in a thread a few years back.​

I'm just saying that the Jubi creates such a large gap between its host (JJ Obito or JJ Madara) and opposing characters (RSM Naruto and Rinne Sasuke), where a non-plot influence on the matchup would determine the JJ stomps them in little to no effort.

 

[Waltz]

I'm just saying that the Jubi creates such a large gap between its host (JJ Obito or JJ Madara) and opposing characters (RSM Naruto and Rinne Sasuke), where a non-plot influence on the matchup would determine the JJ stomps them in little to no effort.

Plausible but in the end that's only theory.​

 

[Tantalus Thief]

Any version of Madara aside from JJ gets crushed by rinnegan Sasuke and RSM Naruto. JJ Madara defeats Rinnegan Sasuke and RSM Naruto individually but together they're victorious. That's all you need to remember.​

You are completely right.

 

[TRE MERCER]

I'm just saying that the Jubi creates such a large gap between its host (JJ Obito or JJ Madara) and opposing characters (RSM Naruto and Rinne Sasuke), where a non-plot influence on the matchup would determine the JJ stomps them in little to no effort.

Your Madara rules no wonder you were agreeing with the thesage bs logic LMAOOOOO.

 

[Ambivalence]

Your Madara rules no wonder you were agreeing with the thesage bs logic LMAOOOOO.

Bronze? Lmfao, I was wondering who that guy's trash posts reminded me of.

 

[TheSages456]

Your Madara rules no wonder you were agreeing with the thesage bs logic LMAOOOOO.

:lol

The "BS logic" that you can't refute. Though I merely quoted the authors word verbatim, so if you or anyone else has a problem, you're going to have to take it up with the author.

 

[Tantalus Thief]

Bronze? Lmfao, I was wondering who that guy's trash posts reminded me of.

edogawa has said he isn't bronze's alt.

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although Mr's last acitivity time and edogawa's join date are suspiciously close :lol but coincidences happen

anyway awkward linguist has the right conclusion in my opinion.

 

[TRE MERCER]

:lol

The "BS logic" that you can't refute. Though I merely quoted the authors word verbatim, so if you or anyone else has a problem, you're going to have to take it up with the author.

DB also says Yata mirror can block and defend against all attacks but i bet you think Madara can bypass it huh? Feats>Author words when it comes to vs threads and feats says Rinnegan Sasuke shit stomps any Madara outside of Triple Rinnegan Madara.

 

[TheSages456]

DB also says Yata mirror can block and defend against all attacks but i bet you think Madara can bypass it huh? Feats>Author words when it comes to vs threads and feats says Rinnegan Sasuke shit stomps any Madara outside of Triple Rinnegan Madara.

As I said,voice your frustration with the author.
I'm not wasting any more of my time on the garbage arguments that fanboys come up with that I have already been debunked countless times.

 

[TRE MERCER]

As I said,voice your frustration with the author.
I'm not wasting any more of my time on the garbage arguments that fanboys come up with that I have already been debunked countless times.

Please explain how this version of Madara can beat Rinnegan Sasuke?

 

[Edogawa]

Your Madara rules no wonder you were agreeing with the thesage bs logic LMAOOOOO.

Now you're throwing off accusation without proof. Why would I be called Madara rules? I'm not a Madara fan to begin with. Like I said, Ad hominem. All your posts are personal attacks. You don't write anything useful in this thread. Expect this to be my last reply.

 

[Dizzldot]

DRSM is juubi jin or not? if so madara negs both of them, if not, madara has a difficult time but still wins thanks to limbo, wood style, and hashi cells.

 

[Dizzldot]

DB also says Yata mirror can block and defend against all attacks but i bet you think Madara can bypass it huh? Feats>Author words when it comes to vs threads and feats says Rinnegan Sasuke shit stomps any Madara outside of Triple Rinnegan Madara.

Why are you talking about yata mirror none of them have it

 

[Waltz]

Fixed.

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No. Again, Madara cannot be the strongest of the Uchiha clan presently or in the present tense because he is dead and during his life time in context of the entry (What the Author is referring to) when he was head of the clan he was indeed the Strongest of the Uchiha clan. When he was resurrected during the timeline where Sasuke existed he had was superior to Sasuke (EDO/1R-SM Madara vs EMS Sasuke and JJ Madara vs R-Sasuke) up until the point he died again before Sasuke showcased the full power he possessed at the time in his fight against Naruto. Madara himself implied that only after becoming a Jinchuriki and subsequently absorbing the Shinju that he then possessed equivalent attributes of power to that of R-Naruto and R-Sasuke so it's impossible for him to have been stronger before doing so when he never had access to such power. I'll continue drilling this into your head until you get it. ​

The databook doesn't say that Madara was the strongest of the clan. If it was referring to past tense, then it would've done so just like every other instance where the past is brought up.

It says that he is the strongest of the clan, so this point is moot. Stop adding in imaginary context.

Yeah...it's been rather clear to me that you don't know what the **** you're talking about.

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その力は活殺自在。。。千手柱問として共に「伝説の忍」と称された、うちは一族最強の男、それがマダラだ。 尾獣にすら匹敵する破壊神 ”完成体須佐能乎”を発動させるほど、 うちは一族内でも”写輪眼” の扱いに長けていた。 一族の長として輿望を担うも、 同胞に理解されず里に背を向けたマダラ。その心底に掲げるものは、ただ一つ。。。戦争のない、愛に満ち溢れ る永永無窮の ”無限月読”。忍の歩みし血塗られた修羅の世界は、マダラを看破紅塵の境地に至らしめたのだ。

That strength is the power (to control) life or death…Together with Senju Hashirama, they were called 「Legendary Shinobi」. The strongest man of the Uchiha Clan is Madara. When invoking the destructive God that is“The Complete-Body Susanoo”, (his strength) is to the extent that it even rivals that of the tailed-beasts. Even amongst the Uchiha clan, he excelled at the usage of the Sharingan. As the head of the clan, he also enjoyed (his reputation and) the trust and confidence (of his people). Without the understanding of his brethren, Madara turned his back on the village. He was merely advocating for one simple thing, completely from the bottom of his heart…(A world) without war: an eternity of“Infinite Tsukuyomi”, and to be perpetually filled with love. It was for the advancement of shinobi in a world with scenes of blood-stained carnage. Because of Madara’s situation, he became disillusioned with the mundane world.

Was Madara presently with Hashirama being called Legendary Legendary shinobi? No. More interestingly the passage specifically say's they were called legendary Shinobi. Which unsurprisingly happens to be in the past. This is the setting and background situation both commencing the entry and directly preceding the statement you're trying to take out of context. ​

If it was as you claimed, then CT would stay in one complete piece after the jutsu was released. Rather, the individual debris composing them fall back down in their original state, so nope, there is absolutely nothing happening on a molecular level.

Obviously the rocks are crushed together. That doesn't make CT more durable than the material that composes it though. You couldn't even begin to make that claim.

@Bold: Again, it's being made clear to me that you don't know what the **** you're talking about. I never said they were being crushed on a molecular level but happenings are always in effect at a molecular level in any amount of matter that is comprised of molecular structure on said scales. No it wouldn't because obviously once the debris fills up it's gravity field there won't be anymore incoming accelerating pieces of rock to crush the largest rocks which is what we see at the Crust level of CT.

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@Red: Yes it makes it more durable because it's a lot more dense than a regular mountain due to the much larger forces of gravity compressing it's material together-----assuming you have some rudimentary understanding of gravitation and density. ​

Sasuke's slashes at VOTE were clearly shown to be mountain range level at best, so no that isn't an assumption on my part.
Madara can replicate the destruction that Sasuke showed at VOTE, so he can replicate any feat that Sasuke has done with the sword.
No, as clarified, Sasuke did not cut through more dense material.

Saying the effects of Sasuke's strongest slashes were limited to a mountain range is an assumption. I'll give you the window to show me proof of your claims of this so that I can crush them. The bold was already addressed and the rest of what you said about Madara matching what Sasuke did at VoTE is founded upon your claim of his strongest slashes being limited to a mountain range and is therefore irrelevant until you prove this to me. ​

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3 Post's later and still waiting on a scan or DB reference denoting, stating or implying that every Perfect Susano'o is the same. ​

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Naruto is the jinchuriki of all of the Biju while they are an external power source for Sasuke. How can that even be compared? Sasuke needed the Biju to match Naruto's power.

He retreated because they almost sealed him. They can't match his raw power, but they can seal him away with a touch. They were not stronger than him.

You're saying that Sasuke was fighting on par with Madara as a Ten Tails' jinchuriki? If Sasuke was alone then Madara would've killed him with hardly any effort.

Sasuke not having the same level of Raw power and Chakra as Naruto doesn't mean he is inferior by default. Raw power and Chakra do not determine who's stronger than who in a match.


If they can't match his raw power then he shouldn't have had any need to retreat because they wouldn't have been able to touch him because he has more raw power except as you continually fail to realize: Raw power and chakra do not determine who is stronger than who in the Naruto Manga. They matched his power in a different way and by doing so he was forced to retreat.

Sasuke was landing more hits on Madara than he was on Sasuke. Yes, he was combating Madara at his level, again this has nothing to do with raw power and chakra. I completely agree with the red. Sasuke would have never been able to pressure Madara without Naruto for the very reason I stated two post's ago: Naruto and Sasuke were equal in the sense that they both received power from Hagoromo that would allow them to beat Madara together. ​