[Question] Is Zoro the 2nd in command of the SHs?

[loj]

All of them were at risk of dying, not just those in the island. By this logic, Law shouldn't have given any of them the Vivre Card. Giving Zoro the Vivre Card wouldn't have been out of place in his plan.

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You're bullshitting if you say this isn't Zoro demanding, and not requesting.

if you think this is the reason why Zoro isn't first mate...you are nuts

 

[ToshiZO]

Dumbest thing I've ever heard luffy never abandoned merry ice berg told him the ship couldn't be repaired and would soon break down which it did. Usopp even said luffy would never abandon his crew and it would be easier for him if he did. Law even stated that whitebeard is a man that would never abandon his men that is what makes him a legend. Roger never ran from a fight because he felt that if he ran away it would give the enemy a chance to get at his crew. A great leader never abandons their men pathetic zoro will never be a vice captain for this point alone

Bruh...Luffy had to abandon Merry. Because Merry was a burden to the crew at that point, heck a danger to the crew. In the same way Sanji right now is being a burden to the crew, they have Wano to focus on and yet they have to split their manpower to go deep into another Yonkous territory.

As always a very smart calculated decision by the Vice Captain.

 

[Punk Hazard]

if you think this is the reason why Zoro isn't first mate...you are nuts

And you read like a toddler.

Bruh...Luffy had to abandon Merry. Because Merry was a burden to the crew at that point, heck a danger to the crew. In the same way Sanji right now is being a burden to the crew, they have Wano to focus on and yet they have to split their manpower to go deep into another Yonkous territory.

As always a very smart calculated decision by the Vice Captain.

Sanji left and went to Big Mom precisely to take the burden OFF of the crew. He separated himself from them so Big Mom wouldn't target them until the whole wedding shit is resolved. Luffy is CHOOSING to go after him and face Big Mom anyways.

 

[loj]

And you read like a toddler.

and you act like a dumbass

 

[ToshiZO]

Sanji left and went to Big Mom precisely to take the burden OFF of the crew. He separated himself from them so Big Mom wouldn't target them until the whole wedding shit is resolved.

Exactly, Sanji is smart, he knew he was a burden so he went to be Big Mom's ***** alone.

What Zoro is saying is exactly what Sanji wanted. Going after him makes him a useless burden once more.

 

[A v i]

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You're bullshitting if you say this isn't Zoro demanding, and not requesting.

The whole argument is a BS to began with; and It is even more of a BS when you call it demanding, just because he was being blunt despite you perfectly understanding Zoro's personality and how the crew works. It wasn't demanding nor did I call it a request. It was just an angry friend telling(bluntly) another friend to do something. There were no demands or holy commands.

 

[RJ22BIG]

Have I ever said telling someone what to do needs you to be in an authoritative position? A statement needs to be authoritative in order to be called a command is what I said; You are obviously incapable of reading and understanding. You can spout whatever the nonsense you want at your boss, But it doesn't make it a command by definition. It just means that you're being mad at your boss and yelling which isn't same as commanding.

Once again, the moron of the day award goes to.......

AVI Shut up and get out of this discussion! ....... So I guess I didn't just issue a command lmao your logic is utterly redundant. If I was to say that to you your most likely next statement would be that I can't tell you what to do... You wouldn't say that wasn't a command because it is as clear as day that I just issued a command. But because I do not have the authority to boss you around doesn't mean I can't try as I have clearly just shown you that I can. So you can glue that moron award to your hand because it is forever yours.

 

[Punk Hazard]

The whole argument is a BS to began with; and It is even more of a BS when you call it demanding, just because he was being blunt despite you perfectly understanding Zoro's personality and how the crew works. It wasn't demanding nor did I call it a request. It was just an angry friend telling(bluntly) another friend to do something. There were no demands or holy commands.

Bullshit. He was being blunt all the way until "OI LUFFY! DROP IT!" That's not stating a fact bluntly, that's bluntly demanding Luffy do something. Stop trying to find excuses. If you walked up to your boss and yelled "HEY YOU! GIVE ME A RAISE," is he gonna take that shit as a respectful request?

@Bolded: That's demanding.

 

[loj]

Day 234 - I have nothing to eat & nothing to drink but that guy Riker is still not stopping

 

[Punk Hazard]

Day 234 - I have nothing to eat & nothing to drink but that guy Riker is still not stopping

Do you need my attention, or something?

 

[loj]

Do you need my attention, or something?

Yes,I want to be popular like Zoro is!

 

[A v i]

Bullshit. He was being blunt all the way until "OI LUFFY! DROP IT!" That's not stating a fact bluntly, that's bluntly demanding Luffy do something. Stop trying to find excuses. If you walked up to your boss and yelled "HEY YOU! GIVE ME A RAISE," is he gonna take that shit as a respectful request?

@Bolded: That's demanding.

Once again, the entire argument you've built was composed of pure BS. The statement was nothing more than a result of; Zoro being mad at Sanji for doing what he did, him being blunt, his personality compounded by the fact that the crew operates like a family.

AVI Shut up and get out of this discussion! ....... So I guess I didn't just issue a command lmao your logic is utterly redundant. If I was to say that to you your most likely next statement would be that I can't tell you what to do... You wouldn't say that wasn't a command because it is as clear as day that I just issued a command. But because I do not have the authority to boss you around doesn't mean I can't try as I have clearly just shown you that I can. So you can glue that moron award to your hand because it is forever yours.

So, even Google can't help you?

 

[Punk Hazard]

Once again, the entire argument you've built was composed of pure BS. The statement was nothing more than a result of; Zoro being mad at Sanji for doing what he did, him being blunt, his personality compounded by the fact that the crew operates like a family.



So, even Google can't help you?

None of that excuses this. All this means is that Zoro's emotions got the better of him and caused him to lose his cool and disrespect the captain's authority. That's exactly what caused Usopp and Luffy's fight.

 

[loj]

For 10th time...Usopp will never be first mate now even if he wanted.

What Usopp did and what Zoro did at Zou is not comparable...stop wasting peoples time and show something interesting already you are showing and saying BS...this is pathetic.

 

[Punk Hazard]

For 10th time...Usopp will never be first mate now even if he wanted.

If Usopp can't redeem himself for the Water 7 incident, not even by saving Luffy's life, then Zoro can't redeem himself for threatening Luffy's life.

What Usopp did and what Zoro did at Zou is not comparable...stop wasting peoples time and show something interesting already you are showing and saying BS...this is pathetic.

Both are cases of characters' emotions getting the better of them, causing them to disrespect the authority of their captain. Period.

 

[Hexuze]

*sigh*

 

[loj]

If Usopp can't redeem himself for the Water 7 incident, not even by saving Luffy's life, then Zoro can't redeem himself for threatening Luffy's life.


Both are cases of characters' emotions getting the better of them, causing them to disrespect the authority of their captain. Period.

What are you trying to prove with this Zoro and Usopp moments? If you think Usopp is first mate...you are either dumb to still think so...or you are just trolling and saying BS just for the sake of it.Usopp as first mate...don't make me laugh...

 

[A v i]

None of that excuses this. All this means is that Zoro's emotions got the better of him and caused him to lose his cool and disrespect the captain's authority. That's exactly what caused Usopp and Luffy's fight.

You can keep thinking however you like, But even you perfectly understand that such things are rather common in the SH crew. Zoro didn't oppose the captains decision, he suggested a different approach(not in a formal way) and ultimately accepted the Captain's decision unlike certain someone who argued against him and even went as far as fighting Luffy over his decision.They aren't same in the slightest.

 

[loj]

You can keep thinking however you like, But even you perfectly understand that such things are rather common in the SH crew. Zoro didn't oppose the captains decision, he suggested a different approach(not in a formal way) and ultimately accepted the Captain's decision unlike certain someone who argued against the captain and even went as far as fighting the captain over his decision.They aren't same in slightest.

literally he's too dumb to spot this difference fuk me

 

[Punk Hazard]

You can keep thinking however you like, But even you perfectly understand that such things are rather common in the SH crew. Zoro didn't oppose the captains decision, he suggested a different approach(not in a formal way) and ultimately accepted the Captain's decision unlike certain someone who argued against him and even went as far as fighting Luffy over his decision.They aren't same in the slightest.

Even when the cowards of the crew protest, they NEVER give Luffy an order. They'll say they're scared, and that it's a bad idea, but they NEVER demand that Luffy do what they want to do. Even when Nami and Franky passionately told Luffy they wanted to help the kids and the Tontottas, that's exactly how they say it. They say that's what they want to do, and ask Luffy if it's okay. Zoro on the other hand straight up tried to command Luffy. He's a hypocrite no matter how willfully blind you are to it.

Usopp fighting Luffy just places his disrespect on a higher level, but doesn't mean Zoro didn't disrespect Luffy's authority.

What are you trying to prove with this Zoro and Usopp moments? If you think Usopp is first mate...you are either dumb to still think so...or you are just trolling and saying BS just for the sake of it.Usopp as first mate...don't make me laugh...

I've said many times what I'm trying to prove by drawing these parallels. Go re-read the thread, you mook.