[Question] Is Zoro the 2nd in command of the SHs?

[Punk Hazard]

I have already explained it. It can't be an order because he doesn't hold enough authority to order the Captain. Now it's your turn to explain how or/and why it was a command.

It was a command because Zoro was demanding Luffy follow the course of action he wanted him to. It wasn't advice or a suggestion, Zoro told him outright to just do it.

The fact that Zoro doesn't have the authority to boss around Luffy is exactly why his action of giving that command is disrespectful to Luffy's authority. You're dribbling on about how it was a request, it was not. The fact that Zoro outright yelled "OI LUFFY DROP IT!" while losing his temper all indicates it was a demand, not just a normal respectful request.

Lmfao huge fail. Law had a plan setup, Zoro wasn't going to be on the Sunny team.

Giving Zoro the Vivre Card would have fulfilled Law's plan. Zoro wasn't part of Law's team. It was Law, Caesar, Usopp, and Robin/Nami, Sanji, Chopper, Momo, and Brook/Luffy, Franky, Kinemon, and Zoro. Law's plan was to get Caesar onto Green Bit, ditch Usopp and Robin, and for Luffy, Franky, Kinemon, and Zoro to destroy the factory as he distracted Doffy. Law would die, and the others would return to the ship. Law could have given Zoro the Vivre Card, which would have allowed it to still get back to the ship so they could go to Zou.

 

[RJ22BIG]

Literally, the only valid reason I see from "SH crew doesn't have a VC" faction is the fact that there wasn't an official announcement or an explicit statement about Zoro's position within the crew. Other than riding on "we need explicit statements" argument, I see not a single valid reason against Zoro. Apparently, some are actually under the impression that being a crew composed of independent people makes it impossible for them to have a Vice-Captain; Yet, they're allowed to have a Captain. If the Captain himself can't hold the crew from being independent, how exactly a Vice-Captain figure can change it?



I'd advice you to do some research before spouting random BS for the sake of looking cool. Synonyms don't always share exact same meaning. When yo ask your friend to meet you at night, It doesn't make it a divine command or an order. It's just you asking him to something. A command however is a more powerful word. A statement becomes an order or a command when it has certain level of authority behind it. Zoro holds 0 authority over Luffy; ergo he can't order Luffy around.

You truly are an idiot because those words actually have the same meaning smh. Zoro did not ask luffy anything he didn't say hey luffy can you drop it no he told luffy to drop it moron asking and telling are to different things not telling and commanding they do in fact carry the same meaning. You do not need authority to issue a command I can try and command my boss to shut up but as my superior he doesn't have to do as I say but I can still issue a command. Next time make sure you actually no what your talking about because you're obviously clueless. Smfh

 

[ToshiZO]

It was a command because Zoro was demanding Luffy follow the course of action he wanted him to. It wasn't advice or a suggestion, Zoro told him outright to just do it.

The fact that Zoro doesn't have the authority to boss around Luffy is exactly why his action of giving that command is disrespectful to Luffy's authority. You're dribbling on about how it was a request, it was not. The fact that Zoro outright yelled "OI LUFFY DROP IT!" while losing his temper all indicates it was a demand, not just a normal respectful request.


Giving Zoro the Vivre Card would have fulfilled Law's plan. Zoro wasn't part of Law's team. It was Law, Caesar, Usopp, and Robin/Nami, Sanji, Chopper, Momo, and Brook/Luffy, Franky, Kinemon, and Zoro. Law's plan was to get Caesar onto Green Bit, ditch Usopp and Robin, and for Luffy, Franky, Kinemon, and Zoro to destroy the factory as he distracted Doffy. Law would die, and the others would return to the ship. Law could have given Zoro the Vivre Card, which would have allowed it to still get back to the ship so they could go to Zou.

Nope. Zoro was entering the island, he risks not getting back. Common sense, give the people already on the Sunny Go, specifically the navigator.

 

[A v i]

It was a command because Zoro was demanding Luffy follow the course of action he wanted him to. It wasn't advice or a suggestion, Zoro told him outright to just do it.

The fact that Zoro doesn't have the authority to boss around Luffy is exactly why his action of giving that command is disrespectful to Luffy's authority. You're dribbling on about how it was a request, it was not. The fact that Zoro outright yelled "OI LUFFY DROP IT!" while losing his temper all indicates it was a demand, not just a normal respectful request.

That didn't look like demand no matter how badly I look at it. He just made his statement blunt and straight forward which may look less like an advice or a request. It was definitely not a demand in any sense. So, you think it was a demand because he yelled? Is that coming from a guy who's been posting walls of texts about how SH's operate as a family.

 

[loj]

Page 33 Riker still trying,this is the type of shit I'll tell my kids on how crazy things I witnessed

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

Page 33 Riker still trying,this is the type of shit I'll tell my kids on how crazy things I witnessed

I have a question who is that in your Ava ?

 

[RJ22BIG]

That didn't look like demand no matter how badly I look at it. He just made his statement blunt and straight forward which may look less like an advice or a request. It was definitely not a demand in any sense. So, you think it was a demand because he yelled? Is that coming from a guy who's been posting walls of texts about how SH's operate as a family.

Man honestly zoro can't do any wrong in your eyes in capital letters with exclamation marks which are used to show shouting and he is in fact issuing a command because no question is being asked so can't be asking luffy to do something he out right demands luffy to drop it and yet you still fight this why it's clear as day that it's an order.

 

[loj]

I have a question who is that in your Ava ?

Have no idea :bdpf:

 

[Punk Hazard]

Page 33 Riker still trying,this is the type of shit I'll tell my kids on how crazy things I witnessed

Why are you on my ****? Page 33 and you still *****ing cuz Zoro isn't first mate?

 

[A v i]

You truly are an idiot because those words actually have the same meaning smh. Zoro did not ask luffy anything he didn't say hey luffy can you drop it no he told luffy to drop it moron asking and telling are to different things not telling and commanding they do in fact carry the same meaning. You do not need authority to issue a command I can try and command my boss to shut up but as my superior he doesn't have to do as I say but I can still issue a command. Next time make sure you actually no what your talking about because you're obviously clueless. Smfh

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And the moron of the day award goes to..........

 

[loj]

Why are you on my ****? Page 33 and you still *****ing cuz Zoro isn't first mate?

Why you mad bro wonder how'd you feel if and when Oda confirm Zoro as first mate kun:

 

[RJ22BIG]

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And the moron of the day award goes to..........

You are truly a moron my good friend a command is an authoritative order yes but again I've already stated you do not need to be in a position of authority to try and tell someone what to do I can try and command my boss to shut up he doesn't have to do what I say because I am not his superior and by zoro raising his voice shown by the exclamation marks make it an authoritative command and he was telling luffy what to do because he said so himself

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[RJ22BIG]

Some vice captain zoro would be huh. Trying to order his captain to abandon a crew member who did what he did to save the crew yea he's a great leader alright.

 

[RJ22BIG]

It's because the member he is talking about is such a pussy bitch, you can't blame him.

Not even gonna comment on that but the man who you guys say with all your hearts that would be the best in command if luffy isn't in a position to lead is ready to abandon crew members without any hesitation because by your definition is a b***h yea that's a good reason thank you for helping me prove why zoro could never be vice captain

 

[ToshiZO]

A good vice captain knows when to get rid of a useless burden. Just like Luffy made the decision to move on from (abandon) Merry.

When you have Kaido to focus on, and now you have to deal with another Yonkou simultaneously? Solid decision.

 

[loj]

Some vice captain zoro would be huh. Trying to order his captain to abandon a crew member who did what he did to save the crew yea he's a great leader alright.

And you gave me an example...Zoro talking about Sanji,the characters which can't stand each other...

 

[loj]

A good vice captain knows when to get rid of a useless burden. Just like Luffy made the decision to move on from (abandon) Merry.

When you have Kaido to focus on, and now you have to deal with another Yonkou simultaneously? Solid decision.

A bit harsh,Sanji is not that bad xd he has his moments

 

[Punk Hazard]

Nope. Zoro was entering the island, he risks not getting back. Common sense, give the people already on the Sunny Go, specifically the navigator.

All of them were at risk of dying, not just those in the island. By this logic, Law shouldn't have given any of them the Vivre Card. Giving Zoro the Vivre Card wouldn't have been out of place in his plan.

That didn't look like demand no matter how badly I look at it. He just made his statement blunt and straight forward which may look less like an advice or a request. It was definitely not a demand in any sense. So, you think it was a demand because he yelled? Is that coming from a guy who's been posting walls of texts about how SH's operate as a family.

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You're bullshitting if you say this isn't Zoro demanding, and not requesting.

 

[A v i]

You are truly a moron my good friend a command is an authoritative order yes but again I've already stated you do not need to be in a position of authority to try and tell someone what to do I can try and command my boss to shut up he doesn't have to do what I say because I am not his superior and by zoro raising his voice shown by the exclamation marks make it an authoritative command and he was telling luffy what to do because he said so himself

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Have I ever said telling someone what to do needs you to be in an authoritative position? "A statement needs to be authoritative in order for it to be called a command." is what I said; You are obviously incapable of reading and understanding. You can spout whatever the nonsense you want at your boss, But it doesn't make it a command by definition. It just means that you're being mad at your boss and yelling which isn't same as commanding.

Once again, the moron of the day award goes to.......

 

[RJ22BIG]

A good vice captain knows when to get rid of a useless burden. Just like Luffy made the decision to move on from (abandon) Merry.

Dumbest thing I've ever heard luffy never abandoned merry ice berg told him the ship couldn't be repaired and would soon break down which it did. Usopp even said luffy would never abandon his crew and it would be easier for him if he did. Law even stated that whitebeard is a man that would never abandon his men that is what makes him a legend. Roger never ran from a fight because he felt that if he ran away it would give the enemy a chance to get at his crew. A great leader never abandons their men pathetic zoro will never be a vice captain for this point alone