[Discussion] Religion

[synkross]

In secret I was waiting for a muslim because my high school physics teacher is the one who drove me to Islam =D.

Now my simple questions, which I am sure you have no literally answer to but anyways:

* Is heaven a congestion of matter as well or it is metaphysical?
* Does metaphysical point in directions all or it's plain omnipresent
* Allah created us to worship Him... right? went through all the troubles of creating us for one sake "we worshipping Him" I am not sure if this sounds like a stroking of Ego or what...
* There is judgement day right? where there will be forever lives am I right? Where is sense of fulfilment if from judgement day there on you life will be about worshipping explicitly every minute of everyday :|

[video=dailymotion;x21ni7q]http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x21ni7q_an-atheist-vs-dr-zakir-naik-worth-watching_school[/video]

This should answer most of your questions, if you need further info, i can also link more videos that can enlighten you towards the basics of Islam. If u read the Quran, you'll find your answers.


and this should answer your heaven/hell question.

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[Jinrou]

This question of "who chose your religion for you" is really tiring tbh.
Your parents are in a religion. They believe it's right. Will one's parents who cares about their child not try to put their newborn kids on a path they believe is right?
Do you honestly want a kid to just decide what he wants for his life after he's just left the womb?

Another point to this (which even this thread confirms) is that when said kids grow to a certain age, they question everything and seek a path they want to go down. Not every kid born into a christian home ends up upholding the Christian values to the last detail.
I mean we have children raised in good families that end up being gangsters, atheists and so on....kids grow and choose whatever they want.

3rd..OP I understand your issues with the Multiverse thing but come on man..You know it's still a theory. Science is all about theories. Nothing is certain until it's proven. Has it been proven yet? Last I checked, the LHC experiment is still ongoing. Hopefully results from this will help scientists better understand the big bang.

Btw, I was born in a christian home. I'm a christian because I want to be despite my love for Science.

 

[TenseiganFTW]

That's what all muslims give me: "Islam is the truth" I just die :| , no explo whatever they just shoot you with here's a way of life, believe it dattebayo!

Bro wait 20 mote min till i come back

 

[HashiraMadara]

[video=dailymotion;x21ni7q]http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x21ni7q_an-atheist-vs-dr-zakir-naik-worth-watching_school[/video]

This should answer most of your questions, if you need further info, i can also link more videos that can enlighten you towards the basics of Islam. If u read the Quran, you'll find your answers.


and this should answer your heaven/hell question.

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I will look at the link after you have answered 4 questions :| , if you believe with outmost why would you need me looking onto someone else's interpretations? Don't you not trust your own abilities to speak for your religion?

 

[Reraru]

I am a Muslim. And I chose Islam for myself. I used to be very bad, depressed and even attempted to end my life but then Qur'an showed me light in darkness and I am very happy with my life now.

 

[Ansatsuken]

My Religion: Islam

No one chose it for me. I'm born in it.

I dont want to touch about the truth of my religion or telling people "it was the true religion". I kept it to myself. In Islam its good thing to do if you able to convince people about the truth of Islam and bring them into Islam, you get 'Pahala' a reward from Allah(God). But I will not do it in here.

Islam never forcing someone to convert into this religion. Who did that considered as not following Islamic teaching in right way. Muslim need to start from 'Dakwah'.

That's my contribution here.

 

[TenseiganFTW]

I will look at the link after you have answered 4 questions :| , if you believe with outmost why would you need me looking onto someone else's interpretations? Don't you not trust your own abilities to speak for your religion?

The true word of God must be able to correct other religions...
Qur'an corrects the Bible :

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Look now the Bible tells us Earth was created 6000 thousand years ago :S LOL
And EARTH was created before the Sun according to the Bible.
So everything was creating in a very short period and scientists dissagree...

The universe was created in a very short period becuase after EARTH the SUN comes(after a very short period).
We can talk later for more?

The Bible never corrects the Qur'an...
Qur'an corrects the Bible and i can bring more evidence.

 

[HashiraMadara]

My Religion: Islam

No one chose it for me. I'm born in it.
I dont want to touch about the truth of my religion or telling people "it was the true religion". I kept it to myself. In Islam its good thing to do if you able to convince people about the truth of Islam and bring them into Islam, you get 'Pahala' a reward from Allah(God). But I will not do it in here.

Islam never forcing someone to convert into this religion. Who did that considered as not following Islamic teaching in right way. Muslim need to start from 'Dakwah'.

That's my contribution here.

:sdo: Being born into something means parents enforced it sublimely into your head

big contradiction there

 

[HashiraMadara]

The true word of God must be able to correct other religions...
Qur'an corrects the Bible :

You must be registered for see links

You must be registered for see links

Look now the Bible tells us Earth was created 6000 thousand years ago :S LOL
And EARTH was created before the Sun according to the Bible.
So everything was creating in a very short period and scientists dissagree...

The universe was created in a very short period becuase after EARTH the SUN comes(after a very short period).
We can talk later for more?

The Bible never corrects the Qur'an...
Qur'an corrects the Bible and i can bring more evidence.

I said answer these:
* Is heaven a congestion of matter as well or it is metaphysical?
* Does metaphysical point in directions all or it's plain omnipresent
* Allah created us to worship Him... right? went through all the troubles of creating us for one sake "we worshipping Him" I am not sure if this sounds like a stroking of Ego or what...
* There is judgement day right? where there will be forever lives am I right? Where is sense of fulfilment if from judgement day there on you life will be about worshipping explicitly every minute of everyday
until then bring no more evidence :|

 

[Deadlift]

The true word of God must be able to correct other religions...
Qur'an corrects the Bible :

You must be registered for see links

You must be registered for see links

Look now the Bible tells us Earth was created 6000 thousand years ago :S LOL
And EARTH was created before the Sun according to the Bible.
So everything was creating in a very short period and scientists dissagree...

The universe was created in a very short period becuase after EARTH the SUN comes(after a very short period).
We can talk later for more?

The Bible never corrects the Qur'an...
Qur'an corrects the Bible and i can bring more evidence.

You obviously didn't read all of the replies in this thread

 

[Ansatsuken]

:sdo: Being born into something means parents enforced it sublimely into your head

big contradiction there

I dont care if it being enforced into me or not.

But I accept it willingly until this day. And I know its the right religion for me when I'm compared it to the other religions or teaching/philosophy.

I kept it to myself. And you cant force me to think "its forceful/against your free will, you need to open up your mind". Nope, I stayed with it until my last breath.

Nothing can change my mind and my Will

 

[Marin]

You obviously didn't read all of the replies in this thread

He's the kid who made that "Bible contains pornography" thread. Don't take him seriously.

 

[HashiraMadara]

I dont care if it being enforced into me or not.

But I accept it willingly until this day. And I know its the right religion for me when I'm compared it to the other religions or teaching/philosophy.

I kept it to myself. And you cant force me to think "its forceful/against your free will, you need to open up your mind". Nope, I stayed with it until my last breath.

Nothing can chance my mind and my Will

A vegetarian from a long line of vegetarians who've never eaten nor never seen meat before is oblivious to its taste and will tell meat eaters "Nothing will change his mind"

 

[HashiraMadara]

He's the kid who made that "Bible contains pornography" thread. Don't take him seriously.

DEFUQ

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[Ansatsuken]

A vegetarian from a long line of vegetarians who've never eaten nor never seen meat before is oblivious to its taste and will tell meat eaters "Nothing will change his mind"

Dont put any words into my mouth bcus I dont want to start a war. I learn to be peaceful.

Can you respect people own choice?

I dont forced you into something here, right or no?

 

[HashiraMadara]

I am Mahayana Buddhist.

The only one thing that blocks me from my religion is what changes you into a different form in your after life experience if there's no higher beings...

e.g. I made peace with the world and I am enlightened, in my death I will be reborn "something else will contain my soul" <== who bestowed that order or who is charge of the "soul" transgression?

 

[HashiraMadara]

Dont put any words into my mouth bcus I dont want to start a war. I learn to be peaceful.

Can you respect people own choice?

I dont forced you into something here, right or no?

Nah I don't want war, nor I have put words into your mouth: I was simply showing you parallels to your words.

[You were born Muslim, never changed nor even attended different teachings and you tell others from different religions that they will never change your will nor your mind...]
:sdo: how is that different from the vegetarian example

 

[Ansatsuken]

Nah I don't want war, nor I have put words into your mouth: I was simply showing you parallels to your words.

[You were born Muslim, never changed nor even attended different teachings and you tell others from different religions that they will never change your will nor your mind...]
:sdo: how is that different from the vegetarian example

Okey, bcus my view on my religion and what make me stick with it forever had a connection with something that I cant describe to you in an internet forum nor you will understand it easily when people in real life(outside of Internet world) that I talked with also couldn't comprehend it.

Full stop.

Even if you wrote an essay.

 

[Callypigia]

The only one thing that blocks me from my religion is what changes you into a different form in your after life experience if there's no higher beings...

e.g. I made peace with the world and I am enlightened, in my death I will be reborn "something else will contain my soul" <== who bestowed that order or who is charge of the "soul" transgression?

It is superfluous. Philosophy, science, and religion are concepts. In Zen we focus on reality; as intangible as that is.

 

[synkross]

I will look at the link after you have answered 4 questions :| , if you believe with outmost why would you need me looking onto someone else's interpretations? Don't you not trust your own abilities to speak for your religion?

Well, i'm not a scholar of islam as u see, so ofcourse i'll have to link someone who is more capable of answering in a way u can understand about those topics.

As far as trusting my own abilities is concerned than i don't require any proof for myself, i believe everything written in the Quran without question or doubt. This is called "Faith". And this is why i started reading Quran with translation, not because i have doubts but because i want to understand more.

there is no shame or degrading in it, If i don't know something, i will ask the one who knows, thats why i gave u the links which answer your questions , So unless you look at those, there is nothing more for me to say.