Madara's Rinnegan having Precognition?

[LoZelda101]

Yes. original owners has precog

 

[SenseiSama]

Of course it does, it's an evolved Sharingan so it should have the same insight as a Sharingan

 

[NarutoX28]

Of course it does, it's an evolved Sharingan so it should have the same insight as a Sharingan

This is wrong. The Rinnegan and Sharingan were born at the same time, so what you're saying is impossible.

 

[SenseiSama]

This is wrong. The Rinnegan and Sharingan were born at the same time, so what you're saying is impossible.

No they weren't, Indra had Hagoromo's Rinnegan genes but was born with a Sharingan because his blood is more diluted, but as soon as he has the Sage's full chakra his eyes evolve into Rinnegan.

 

[CloyEscapade]

Honestly looks like Izanagi where he rewrote that event and turned it into an advantageous situation which doesn't make sense to begin with, but meh.

Maybe izanagi doesn't effect ems

 

[Ansatsuken]

No they weren't, Indra had Hagoromo's Rinnegan genes but was born with a Sharingan because his blood is more diluted, but as soon as he has the Sage's full chakra his eyes evolve into Rinnegan.

Are you drunk or what?:| Can you be consistent in using logic.

 

[LoZelda101]

Nope! real precognition especially the one portray in fiction dont involve eye/vision. Its all about Awareness where our mind can see it, the glimpse of future.

You need to read/watch a manga/anime that play with this power.

If you a comic follower, this kind of thing is a norm especially in Marvel/DC.

I hate it when people not read what I posted and reply back with something not related to what I'm posting there

What? no, to benefit from precog based off a clan that benefits from visual, it has to be seen. otherwise there was no point in kishi letting madara use sage mode to counter edo tobirama, and honestly would make byakugan even more pathetic which is the last thing it needs, why take away their one good perk? (near 360 vision)

Of course it does, it's an evolved Sharingan so it should have the same insight as a Sharingan

no it's not rinne-sharingan> rinnegan>sharingan. that was just myth crap from the little intel jiraiya gathered. it's rinne-sharingan > rinnegan or sharingan. so likely what happened in sasuke's case is that possessing his known sharingan to be upgraded with rikudou's rinnegan allowed it to be the tomoe rinnegan (at full power). idk, maybe i'm wrong. rikudou shit is confusing tbh.

I guess we're in agreement that Madara's Rinnegan doesn't grant him Precognition?

No, madara was able to see chakra through guy, that is an sharingan feat, so likely he has precog as well.

 

[Ansatsuken]

What? no, to benefit from precog based off a clan that benefits from visual, it has to be seen. otherwise there was no point in kishi letting madara use sage mode to counter edo tobirama, and honestly would make byakugan even more pathetic which is the last thing it needs, why take away their one good perk?

You're right.

Its eye base Precognition and not awareness/mind base Precognition.

 

[NarutoX28]

No, madara was able to see chakra through guy, that is an sharingan feat, so likely he has precog as well.

Which part are you referring to?

 

[NarutoX28]

Maybe izanagi doesn't effect ems

But it did after his battle with Hashirama.

 

[NarutoX28]

No they weren't, Indra had Hagoromo's Rinnegan genes but was born with a Sharingan because his blood is more diluted, but as soon as he has the Sage's full chakra his eyes evolve into Rinnegan.

Kaguya's RinneSharingan was derived from the Shinju. Her RinneSharingan contains both the Rinnegan and the Sharingan's powers meaning that the Rinnegan and Sharingan aren't related through evolution. What you're saying doesn't contradict my post at all.

Indra possessed the Sharingan because he had an entirely different chakra than his father's, hence why both received different Dojutsus. It had nothing to do with the fact that Indra's blood was more diluted. If you can't disprove my argument, then I guess you concede here.

 

[SenseiSama]

Kaguya's RinneSharingan was derived from the Shinju. Her RinneSharingan contains both the Rinnegan and the Sharingan's powers meaning that the Rinnegan and Sharingan aren't related through evolution. What you're saying doesn't contradict my post at all.

Indra possessed the Sharingan because he had an entirely different chakra than his father's, hence why both received different Dojutsus. It had nothing to do with the fact that Indra's blood was more diluted. If you can't disprove my argument, then I guess you concede here.

You're right Rinnegan and Sharingan are two separate KKG but they both come from RinneSharingan, therefore Rinnegan would have the same insight feats as Sharingan due to the fact it comes from the same eye.

no it's not rinne-sharingan> rinnegan>sharingan. that was just myth crap from the little intel jiraiya gathered. it's rinne-sharingan > rinnegan or sharingan. so likely what happened in sasuke's case is that possessing his known sharingan to be upgraded with rikudou's rinnegan allowed it to be the tomoe rinnegan (at full power)


No, madara was able to see chakra through guy, that is an sharingan feat, so likely he has precog as well.

I'm talking about the ability to perceive chakra. Rinnegan comes from the same eye as Sharingan so would have the same ability to preceive motion and chakra.

 

[NarutoX28]

You're right Rinnegan and Sharingan are two separate KKG but they both come from RinneSharingan, therefore Rinnegan would have the same insight feats as Sharingan due to the fact it comes from the same eye.

Yeah, I'm not understanding how you came to that conclusion.

The RinneSharingan is a reflection of both Dojutsus, so whatever abilities the Rinnegan can use are complete separate from what the Sharingan uses. Claiming such a thing is like stating how the Sharingan has access to Six Paths techniques because it also comes from the same eye. The logic is flawed.

 

[LoZelda101]

Yeah, I'm not understanding how you came to that conclusion.

The RinneSharingan is a reflection of both Dojutsus, so whatever abilities the Rinnegan can use are complete separate from what the Sharingan uses. Claiming such a thing is like stating how the Sharingan has access to Six Paths techniques because it also comes from the same eye. The logic is flawed.

lol dammit why didn't i think of that. nice

 

[LoZelda101]

You're right Rinnegan and Sharingan are two separate KKG but they both come from RinneSharingan, therefore Rinnegan would have the same insight feats as Sharingan due to the fact it comes from the same eye.



I'm talking about the ability to perceive chakra. Rinnegan comes from the same eye as Sharingan so would have the same ability to preceive motion and chakra.

fine, but only madara would have that feature not nagato.

 

[Angelic.]

Couldn't see bz

 

[Ansatsuken]

lol dammit why didn't i think of that. nice

You're quoting me but where is the reply??

 

[LoZelda101]

You're quoting me but where is the reply??

the annoying multi-quote check never leaves until i uncheck it. sorry about that.

 

[SenseiSama]

Yeah, I'm not understanding how you came to that conclusion.

The RinneSharingan is a reflection of both Dojutsus, so whatever abilities the Rinnegan can use are complete separate from what the Sharingan uses. Claiming such a thing is like stating how the Sharingan has access to Six Paths techniques because it also comes from the same eye. The logic is flawed.

Smh, I'm not talking about KKG techniques, the ability to perceive objects is the same. Both Rinnegan and Sharingan can see chakra, both Rinnegan and Sharingan users can master any jutsu, they clearly share similarities and if Sharingan evolves to Rinnegan then Madara retains his ability to predict movement.

 

[NarutoX28]

Smh, I'm not talking about KKG techniques, the ability to perceive objects is the same. Both Rinnegan and Sharingan can see chakra, both Rinnegan and Sharingan users can master any jutsu, they clearly share similarities and if Sharingan evolves to Rinnegan then Madara retains his ability to predict movement.

Smh, all of the abilities of both the Sharingan and Rinnegan are KKG, including Precognition because it originates from a KKG. But again, you're still applying flawed logic and you're still side-stepping my arguments. The fact that the Sharingan cannot use Rinnegan abilities despite being a part of the same eye means that the Rinnegan can't simply use Sharingan's abilities even if it were a part of the same eye. I'm assuming you concede here.

They bear similarities, but it still doesn't imply that the Rinnegan can use all of the Sharingan's abilities. That's just like stating how Sasuke's Rinnegan has access to all of Kaguya's techniques due to his Dojutsu being similar to Kaguya's which is false. Furthermore, Madara's Sharingan never evolved into the Rinnegan and since it's not being reflected along with the Rinnegan, he cannot use the Sharingan's abilities. It's as simple as that. Kaguya's RinneSharingan possesses the Sharingan's abilities only because both Dojutsus were reflected simultaneously. Madara's isn't, so he only retains the Rinnegan's abilities unless he switches back to the Sharingan.

Hagoromo's Chakra is what's being reflected through his eyes and Hagoromo's Chakra never granted him access to any of the Sharingan's abilities, so the same rule applies to Madara.