Madara's Rinnegan having Precognition?

[NarutoX28]

Basically what the title states. It's been something that I've been curious about as others tend to believe that Madara's Rinnegan suddenly has Precognition whereas others like me don't necessarily believe that, so I'm just wondering what your guys's input is on the subject and then I'll pitch in later once I see some replies.

 

[Ricardo]

Is there any evidence that provide such theory ? I mean i know Madara had a lot of wisdom but having the rinnegan doesn't provide that factor.

 

[nointro]

If he is still able to use his MS abilities with his rinnegan then yes he has precog

 

[NarutoX28]

If he is still able to use his MS abilities with his rinnegan then yes he has precog

Except he could only use Susano'o which doesn't require the Mangekyo after activating it.

 

[Gerkak]

I doubt it, he doesn't need it since he has sensing abilities

 

[ItachiDaSoloKing]

[video=youtube;4ote24WKJmA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ote24WKJmA[/video]
In this fight @ 3:30 I believe Madara did some sort of Precog or Time Control I'm not sure but I never got an Explanation.

He obviously cant do it in JuubiJin mode similar to how Obito couldnt use Kamui and I know it wasnt Izanagi obviously.

 

[Alfred Pennyworth]

Most likely an exclusive ability like Genjutsu: Sharingan.

 

[NarutoX28]

[video=youtube;4ote24WKJmA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ote24WKJmA[/video]
In this fight @ 3:30 I believe Madara did some sort of Precog or Time Control I'm not sure but I never got an Explanation.

He obviously cant do it in JuubiJin mode similar to how Obito couldnt use Kamui and I know it wasnt Izanagi obviously.

Honestly looks like Izanagi where he rewrote that event and turned it into an advantageous situation which doesn't make sense to begin with, but meh.

 

[Ansatsuken]

Having a precog but get stab by BZ, yeah he dont have it.

 

[NarutoX28]

I guess we're in agreement that Madara's Rinnegan doesn't grant him Precognition?

 

[NarutoX28]

Having a precog but get stab by BZ, yeah he dont have it.

To be fair, Juubidara's attention wasn't shifted towards Black Zetsu and he could likely "mask" his chakra signature, so he couldn't be sensed.

 

[Ansatsuken]

To be fair, Juubidara's attention wasn't shifted towards Black Zetsu and he could likely "mask" his chakra signature, so he couldn't be sensed.

Precog mean you can see the thing before it happen or in easy word seeing a glimpse of future. It not involving chakra but awarenes of future outcome.

Precognition (from the Latin præ-, "before" and cognitio, "acquiring knowledge"), also called future sight, and second sight, is an alleged psychic ability to see events in the future. As with other forms of extrasensory perception, there is no evidence that precognition is a real ability possessed by anyone.

Source:Wikia

Users have the ability to foresee possible futures and observe what may happen. As knowledge of the future invariably causes that future to change, visions of the future are subject to frequent shifting. While not being able to select futures or travel through time, these visions may assist in possible courses of action.

Source: Superpower Wiki.

Or you having a different definition about it according to NV rule

 

[Cyber]

Sharingan grants the user an almost "precog" insight to attacks, like we saw in Naruto vs Sasuke, he could see images of Naruto attacking and that helped him dodge. Sharingan is a deleted form of the Doujutsu that Hagoromo has, that Doujutsu being Rinnegan. Madara was the original wielder of his own Rinnegan after having it as the previous Sharingan forms (1t through EMS). So yes, his rinnegan obviously has precog.

If you meant it as him seeing the future, I highly doubt it. It has been speculated that stopping time could be his MS ability, but that is purely theory.

 

[NarutoX28]

Precog mean you can see the thing before it happen or in easy word seeing a glimpse of future. It not involving chakra but awarenes of future outcome.



Source:Wikia



Source: Superpower Wiki.

Or you having a different definition about it according to NV rule

That only applies when the user's eyes are directed towards their target. What you're suggesting is that the Sharingan literally possesses 360 degree vision or sensing capabilities which is false.

 

[NarutoX28]

Sharingan grants the user an almost "precog" insight to attacks, like we saw in Naruto vs Sasuke, he could see images of Naruto attacking and that helped him dodge. Sharingan is a deleted form of the Doujutsu that Hagoromo has, that Doujutsu being Rinnegan. Madara was the original wielder of his own Rinnegan after having it as the previous Sharingan forms (1t through EMS). So yes, his rinnegan obviously has precog.

The Sharingan's Dojutsu isn't being reflected with Madara's Rinnegan, so even if he could use a Sharingan, it's simply not being used with his Rinnegan, so it shouldn't have Precognition. Sharingan also isn't a diluted form of the Rinnegan as the Sharingan and Rinnegan were born simultaneously as it was shown that the Shinju's Power reflects the RinneSharingan which possesses both Dojutsus.

 

[Ansatsuken]

That only applies when the user's eyes are directed towards their target. What you're suggesting is that the Sharingan literally possesses 360 degree vision or sensing capabilities which is false.

Nope! real precognition especially the one portray in fiction dont involve eye/vision. Its all about Awareness where our mind can see it, the glimpse of future.

You need to read/watch a manga/anime that play with this power.

If you a comic follower, this kind of thing is a norm especially in Marvel/DC.

I hate it when people not read what I posted and reply back with something not related to what I'm posting there

 

[Holy God]

The Rinnegan has been shown to have vision beyond regular sight, but it's never been confirmed whether or not it carries the Sharingan's prediction ability ever since we learned that it isn't an actual evolution of it but a completely different eye. I would think Kishimoto would probably give it to the Rinnegan though.

 

[NarutoX28]

The Rinnegan has been shown to have vision beyond regular sight, but it's never been confirmed whether or not it carries the Sharingan's prediction ability ever since we learned that it isn't an actual evolution of it but a completely different eye. I would think Kishimoto would probably give it to the Rinnegan though.

Fair enough. I tend to think it's not based on the fact that they're two entirely different Dojutsus and the only Dojutsu that reflects both powers is the RinneSharingan or Sasuke's Tomoe Rinnegan which is something Madara's doesn't possess here.

 

[NarutoX28]

Nope! real precognition especially the one portray in fiction dont involve eye/vision. Its all about Awareness where our mind can see it, the glimpse of future.

You need to read/watch a manga/anime that play with this power.

If you a comic follower, this kind of thing is a norm especially in Marvel/DC.

I hate it when people not read what I posted and reply back with something not related to what I'm posting there

Sure, but I was referring to 3T Precognition.

I agree with what you said here though.

 

[Ansatsuken]

Sure, but I was referring to 3T Precognition.

I agree with what you said here though.

Be clear next time what actually you're referring to. 3T Precognition.

I informed you about what is Precognition there.

But here it was a Precognition according to NV rule and not a commonly known Precognition.

Uchiha should be very HAX clan if they have precog/ can predict movement but look Kishi neglect it.

For Rinnegan, i'm not so sure.