Madara's Rinnegan having Precognition?

[SenseiSama]

Smh, all of the abilities of both the Sharingan and Rinnegan are KKG, including Precognition because it originates from a KKG. But again, you're still applying flawed logic and you're still side-stepping my arguments. The fact that the Sharingan cannot use Rinnegan abilities despite being a part of the same eye means that the Rinnegan can't simply use Sharingan's abilities even if it were a part of the same eye. I'm assuming you concede here.

They bear similarities, but it still doesn't imply that the Rinnegan can use all of the Sharingan's abilities. That's just like stating how Sasuke's Rinnegan has access to all of Kaguya's techniques due to his Dojutsu being similar to Kaguya's which is false. Furthermore, Madara's Sharingan never evolved into the Rinnegan and since it's not being reflected along with the Rinnegan, he cannot use the Sharingan's abilities. It's as simple as that. Kaguya's RinneSharingan possesses the Sharingan's abilities only because both Dojutsus were reflected simultaneously. Madara's isn't, so he only retains the Rinnegan's abilities unless he switches back to the Sharingan.

Hagoromo's Chakra is what's being reflected through his eyes and Hagoromo's Chakra never granted him access to any of the Sharingan's abilities, so the same rule applies to Madara.

Dude, if the Rinnegan can see chakra like a Sharingan then why can't it predict movement like a Sharingan ? Rinnegan users are immune to Sharingan genjutsu, on that logic they can also see through genjutsu like a Sharingan.

If both eyes come from an eye with 20x20 vision then they should both have 20x20 vision, and Madara's eyes did evolve into a Rinnegan. His insight should be the same as when he had the Sharingan but with extra feats the Sharingn doesn't have like the ability to see chakra points.

 

[WalksInShadows]

Edo Madara being able to perfectly react to opponents' attacks while his Rinnegan was active should've told you all you needed to know.

 

[NarutoX28]

Dude, if the Rinnegan can see chakra like a Sharingan then why can't it predict movement like a Sharingan ? Rinnegan users are immune to Sharingan genjutsu, on that logic they can also see through genjutsu like a Sharingan.

Because they're entirely different dojutsus. Just because they both can see chakra doesn't lead to the implication that the Rinnegan suddenly has Precognition. Might as well grant the Sharingan user Shared Vision if both can see chakra.

If both eyes come from an eye with 20x20 vision then they should both have 20x20 vision, and Madara's eyes did evolve into a Rinnegan. His insight should be the same as when he had the Sharingan but with extra feats the Sharingn doesn't have like the ability to see chakra points.

But 20x20 vision is something not even connected by chakra.

No it shouldn't. His chakra evolved to the point where he could use the Rinnegan, but the fact remains that he's simply reflecting Hagoromo's chakra, a being who never had the Sharingan's abilities in the first place. He would need to reflect Indra's chakra through his eyes in order to use Precognition, but he's not. This is something only exclusive to Sasuke and Kaguya, not Madara.

 

[NarutoX28]

Edo Madara being able to perfectly react to opponents' attacks while his Rinnegan was active should've told you all you needed to know.

Or it simply means that Madara's Base reflexes are elite.

 

[Ansatsuken]

Or it simply means that Madara's Base reflexes are elite.

Or his sensing help him + his reflexes.

 

[WalksInShadows]

Or it simply means that Madara's Base reflexes are elite.

it just so happens that JJ Madara was shown viewing the gates and the flow of chakra in Gai's body. That scene all but spelled it out with a neon sign that his Rinnegan retained the Sharingan's basic abilities.

 

[NarutoX28]

it just so happens that JJ Madara was shown viewing the gates and the flow of chakra in Gai's body. That scene all but spelled it out with a neon sign that his Rinnegan retained the Sharingan's basic abilities.

Because his Rinnegan is capable of perceiving chakra flow as well.

 

[WalksInShadows]

Because his Rinnegan is capable of perceiving chakra flow as well.

ofc a Rinnegan can do that It's an evolved Sharingan :sdo:

 

[NarutoX28]

ofc a Rinnegan can do that It's an evolved Sharingan :sdo:

Which is why both existed at the exact same time?