Is Itachi's Tsukuyomi really unbreakable?

[LoZelda101]

The only way Tsukuyomi can fail against Hashi is if Itachi uses it but Hashi quickly pulls off a wood clone to negate its effects. I am being 100% serious here. This is what I believe when I say he can counter the Tsukuyomi, it is a simple clone jutsu but once he gets caught in it because Hashi can't be playin mind games with Itachi for long, he is done.

The one thing I don't agree on is that won't he coe to the battle fully prepped. He ain't called the God of Shinobi for no apparent reason. He has had some experience in the past with genjutsu before meaning Madara's gen now before you say it's not on the same level as Itachi's which I know, won't he still be prepared to fight against all types of genjutsus. When Madara first used Susano against him do you think he had intel of what was about to happen? With or without intel Hashirama still would be done in by the effects of Tsukuyomi.

Kakashi an experienced dojutsu user who copies various techniques and was quite notorious for his Sharingan still got caught by his Tsukuyomi.

I'm not saying hashi couldn't do that, I'm saying would hashi do that? Like you said, he is the god of shinobi, why would he without intel go that far to deal with genjutsu? You mention his constant battles with madara, but that's my point. Base off his exp with madara, he should know his genjutsu is shit or let me rephrase that, is breakable like all uchihas. <- this is what gives itachi the underline advantage. Hashi has never faced any uchiha with genjutsu feats like itachi's. He wouldn't be able to stop it until it's too late. Why? Because hashi has been shown to face madara 1 on 1, staring at his eyes with no fear at all. The wood clone trick he pulled on madara was not to counter gen but just to catch fatigue madara off guard as a decoy. That's it

Intel isn't always needed but in circumstance like hax dojutsus it's needed. Speaking of your kakashi example, he knew uchiha gen was a threat and assumed he'd be able to resist it and still got hit like a train. But guess what? In his rematch against itachi, while tsuku was restricted he was properly able to adjust with itachi's known feats due to intel about itachi. Why can't the same be said for hashi?

 

[Trúth]

Lol. KKG just means Uchiha blood. How in the world you turned KKG into just Itachi's blood is beyond me. Kakashi has the sharingan but he does not have Uchiha blood(KKG) meaning he cannot break it. Thats the point of that statement.

All the Hyuga have the same KKG, which allows them to use their techs, same with the Uchiha. Its no different.

I have to agree. It's definitely beyond you seeing as I've explained why it has to be the user's blood multiple times now.

No offense.

 

[Mikeuhsomething36]

Obviously not, as if Itachi could ever defeat the likes of Hamura that way

 

[YellowFang]

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Maybe people with strong Bloodlines and higher versions of Sharingan, the scan proves to me that it's possible to resist it to some extent but only a blood relative can break out of it w/o any damage.

As Kakashi somehow managed to keep his sanity after taking a full-fledged Tsukiyomi, his Sharingan did provided some resistance. And with MS, Kakashi was confident enough to take on Tsukiyomi again, maybe that says something.

P.S. People with very strong chakra like Hashirama, even ET couldn't bind him. It should be a difficult task on it's own to get him in a genjutsu...

 

[unknownvillain1254]

Lol @ the poll. Itachi haters outchea can't handle the Trúth.

Well sage mode with mama &papa toad or a tail beast

 

[HENI]

Anyone with great level of Yin release can break it. Shisui can and Sasuke can.

 

[salamander uchiha]

Okay so that also means Hashirama has his blood. So Hashirama can break it? Naruto can break it?

No for Hashirama and most definitely not for Naruto.

 

[Filo]

I wonder if Naruto could break it with the help of Kurama or his sage powers? or his so6p powers

 

[Jokule67]

yup. itachi said madara was invincible, that was certainly a lie.

the new official english translation just says kekkei genkai and sharingan, not uchiha blood. personally i think the user has to not only possess sharingan but must related to indra's side. ie: uchiha, rikudou, etc. but that's just an assumption.

by then 72hour mental torture would've already went by. lol


nope. time-manipulation induced tsukuyomi mind-rapes hashi before he even attempts to break it.

Time manipulation doesnt stop Hashi from breaking free. You dont move in slow motion in Tsukoyomi. It only matters to those outside.

 

[Nardo]

Time manipulation doesnt stop Hashi from breaking free. You dont move in slow motion in Tsukoyomi. It only matters to those outside.

I don't think people understand that its just an illusion. Itachi genjutsu is just really good, but its still an illusion. And illusions can be broken

 

[NarutoX28]

Time manipulation doesnt stop Hashi from breaking free. You dont move in slow motion in Tsukoyomi. It only matters to those outside.

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[Coyote Starrk]

There is a way to break free, even the strongest genjutsu can be broken. I mean even the Infinite Tsukuyomi was broken so going to say Itachi's can't be broken is a stretch.

 

[Coyote Starrk]

I like Itachi and all of that but some of you have majorly over power him. I doubt he could take on Hashirama alone in a fight. Hashirama is and was on a completely different level, but Itachi is my favorite character design. Just couldn't beat Hashirama.

 

[Nardo]

I like Itachi and all of that but some of you have majorly over power him. I doubt he could take on Hashirama alone in a fight. Hashirama is and was on a completely different level, but Itachi is my favorite character design. Just couldn't beat Hashirama.

Exactly, he's overrated

 

[Jokule67]

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Hashirama is above each and everyone of them. They are all fodder to him. Especially Kakashi. Please lol

 

[Jokule67]

I don't think people understand that its just an illusion. Itachi genjutsu is just really good, but its still an illusion. And illusions can be broken

The time effects the 3 days and is one second to those outside. Thats all. Hashirama is on a whole other level than every other ninja that ever existed after him bar NaruSaku

 

[Jiren]

Itachi solos.

 

[LoZelda101]

These retards clearly lack the understanding of time manipulation hence why they don't understand the threat of itachi.

 

[NarutoX28]

Hashirama is above each and everyone of them. They are all fodder to him. Especially Kakashi. Please lol

No. The Genjutsu's effects happens instantaneously which means there is no increment of time where the user can break out of the genjutsu before they're affected by it. Only ones that could is with the Uchiha's KKG and the Sharingan as they're both representations of the highest level of Yin Release that can be obtained. Having powerful chakras does not grant immunity to Genjutsu, but it can help. In this case, Manga and Databook makes it explicitly clear what is required to resist it and Hashirama can't because he's utter shit in terms of Yin Release.

 

[Nardo]

No. The Genjutsu's effects happens instantaneously which means there is no increment of time where the user can break out of the genjutsu before they're affected by it. Only ones that could is with the Uchiha's KKG and the Sharingan as they're both representations of the highest level of Yin Release that can be obtained. Having powerful chakras does not grant immunity to Genjutsu, but it can help. In this case, Manga and Databook makes it explicitly clear what is required to resist it and Hashirama can't because he's utter shit in terms of Yin Release.

At the end of the day its just an illusion.