Woman dies after having 16 teeth removed during trip to the dentist

[Chie]

This is how Chie is going to be towards Conspirator, when I summon her to open his mouth as punishment.

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But really, this is so messed up and insane, shame on the dentist.

Aw, this story made me so sad. That dentist needs their license revoked.

He has assistants that handle the amount of medicine and what not the only thing he does is the actual mouth work. And if something goes wrong such as the patient dying the one who is responsible is the one administering medicine. And the person in control of medicine is supposed to know how much medicine to apply as well as the correct one.
Basically he/she isn't trained in it because no one is supposed to need it he/she is only trained in mouth work and the issues one's mouth can have.
So at what point would CPR be needed for a dentist?

It's a big deal given the fact that they're required to know in the United States...

1. every person on this planet should know how to use CPR, because you always can get involved in a situation where it is needed.
2. When someone works with medicine and especially anesthetics, the person has to be prepared for the case when it goes wrong, when a person is in serious danger.

Besides that, the dentist in this case ignored the unhealthy state of his patient, as well as the concerns of his assistant. Of course he is to blame for what happened.

The dentists and all the dental assistants will be getting sued. The family has every right to file charges since this occurred in Michigan- every US state requires that dentists and dental assistants learn CPR and actually maintain certification. This is because some procedures can lead to a cardiac arrest. The only ones not required to know in an office are the dental office staff- so secretaries, janitors, etc.

 

[Insomniac Fueled Suicide]

1. every person on this planet should know how to use CPR, because you always can get involved in a situation where it is needed.
2. When someone works with medicine and especially anesthetics, the person has to be prepared for the case when it goes wrong, when a person is in serious danger.

Besides that, the dentist in this case ignored the unhealthy state of his patient, as well as the concerns of his assistant. Of course he is to blame for what happened.

1. CPR isn't exactly a skill that everyone should know. Furthermore if you keep getting into situations where it's needed you need to change something around in your life. I for one have choked on food twice in my life and drowned once but do you think it would have mattered if someone knows CPR no because most of the time noone is around or didn't notice until later.
But just to say I took the food out of my throat both times and I blacked out for a minute but someone pulled my body form the water when I woke up I coughed up the water.

2. It was a normal procedure but I'm pretty sure they could do nothing when she was in the car and it was out of their hands sense she is no longer their responsibility.

3. She had several health problems all of which she didn't mention once so how were they to know? And the cause of death wasn't their fault it was her own with all of her issues some of which were caused by poor diet and others genetic(asthma).

To sum it up is it really their fault when she didn't say anything about her many health problems no because they would have turned her down most likely. Furthermore he just thought her heart rate was so high because she was anxious for the operation which most people are. But how would you address the issue if you just think someone's excited?

 

[Chie]

1. CPR isn't exactly a skill that everyone should know. Furthermore if you keep getting into situations where it's needed you need to change something around in your life. I for one have choked on food twice in my life and drowned once but do you think it would have mattered if someone knows CPR no because most of the time noone is around or didn't notice until later.
But just to say I took the food out of my throat both times and I blacked out for a minute but someone pulled my body form the water when I woke up I coughed up the water.

2. It was a normal procedure but I'm pretty sure they could do nothing when she was in the car and it was out of their hands sense she is no longer their responsibility.

3. She had several health problems all of which she didn't mention once so how were they to know? And the cause of death wasn't their fault it was her own with all of her issues some of which were caused by poor diet and others genetic(asthma).

To sum it up is it really their fault when she didn't say anything about her many health problems no because they would have turned her down most likely. Furthermore he just thought her heart rate was so high because she was anxious for the operation which most people are. But how would you address the issue if you just think someone's excited?

American Dental Association (ADA) requires that dentists and dental assistants know CPR. Strike one.

They knew things were wrong. They took the patients vitals and evidently did ask questions. Health professionals have to ask a plethora of inquiries before any procedure. Dentist ignored all the warning signs. Strike two.

The dentist knew the patient had something seriously wrong after the procedure, too. Hence why she said that they should take the patient to a doctor as soon as possible. And they just let the patient leave in that state? Horrible. Strike three.

 

[DominiqueX]

The dentists and all the dental assistants will be getting sued. The family has every right to file charges since this occurred in Michigan- every US state requires that dentists and dental assistants learn CPR and actually maintain certification. This is because some procedures can lead to a cardiac arrest. The only ones not required to know in an office are the dental office staff- so secretaries, janitors, etc.

Sounds good. Didn't know how things like these are handled in the US. Thank you for clearing that up.

1. CPR isn't exactly a skill that everyone should know. Furthermore if you keep getting into situations where it's needed you need to change something around in your life. I for one have choked on food twice in my life and drowned once but do you think it would have mattered if someone knows CPR no because most of the time noone is around or didn't notice until later.
But just to say I took the food out of my throat both times and I blacked out for a minute but someone pulled my body form the water when I woke up I coughed up the water.

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This is wrong. Learning how to do it won't hurt you or take away much of your time. You can save a life with it.

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That's not true either. Anyone can be in a situation where it is needed. For example: You are outside and become a witness of a car-accident. When you know first aid and CPR, you can help a lot and save lifes. Would you just go away? or stand there and only call the ambulance? Another example: You visit someone (a friend, your grandparents etc.) and the person suddenly becomes unconscious and has no pulse, what do you do?

This happens in daily life, if you believe it or not.

 

[Claymantan]

3. She had several health problems all of which she didn't mention once so how were they to know? And the cause of death wasn't their fault it was her own with all of her issues some of which were caused by poor diet and others genetic(asthma).

To sum it up is it really their fault when she didn't say anything about her many health problems no because they would have turned her down most likely. Furthermore he just thought her heart rate was so high because she was anxious for the operation which most people are. But how would you address the issue if you just think someone's excited?

Walters had the teeth pulled despite the fact that she was feeling anxious, her family said. She was battling a series of health issues, including diabetes, high blood pressure and asthma, and was reliant on an oxygen machine.

"Her heart rate was still 130, the dentist came in, ready to do the procedure," Waddell told the station. "The dental assistant said 'I am waiting for her heart rate to come down.' The dentist said 'We're fine' and the procedure starts."

After Dr. Rana Rabban was done, she told Walters that she should "go to the doctor and get your heart checked on," Waddell said.

Shortly after April's family got her and the oxygen tanks into the car, she started having trouble breathing. It was thought that the oxygen tanks had run out, so they got more oxygen from the dentist's office.

That didn't seem to work, and Waddell said that no one from the office knew CPR.

This doctor didn't know she needed an oxygen machine to breathe, even though the family had evidently brought the machine with them? I don't know exactly what to expect, because negligence cases can go either way. Maybe we'll learn more. But it does at least look suspicious. I don't think it makes much sense to ignore a high heart rate for a procedure as intensive like this on a patient who needs an oxygen machine in general, even if she'd had no other conditions. But it doesn't look like they were hiding anything.

 

[Natsu Shazneel]

Oh damn and I just got one of my wisdom tooth removed last week.

 

[GinkgoLeaf Girl]

Utterly horrifying. The client was obviously physiologically unstable before and after the procedure--there are no excuses. Even if the dentist thought it was okay to proceed (again, shows poor judgement and lack of concern for client safety on her part), the assistant should have stood her ground and advocated for the client. And I don't even want to get into the CPR issue. My condolences to the family.

 

[Conspirator.]

What a terrible incident all-round and I hope the dentist is debarred from practising. :|