[Debate] Are The Big Bang Theory & God Theory Intertwined?

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What if both the big bang and the existence of a higher being are real?
Was the big bang actually God riping out a fart?

[video=youtube_share;RmD9ZWDUsNY]http://youtu.be/RmD9ZWDUsNY[/video]

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The Big Bang theory is bull crap

1 - THE BIG BANG THEORY

The Big Bang theory has been accepted by a majority of scientists today. It theorizes that a large quantity of nothing decided to pack tightly together, and then exploded outward into hydrogen and helium. This gas is said to have flowed outward through frictionless space to eventually form stars, galaxies, planets, and moons. It all sounds so simple, just as you would find in a science fiction novel. And that is all it is.

"a large quantity of nothing decided to pack tightly together, and then exploded outward into hydrogen and helium"
say WHAT!!
 

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I will say this once... Bing Bang doesn't explain the origins of the universe: Big Bang: "Give me time = 0, I'll explain the rest from there on". It explains nothing about the "Bang" itself on what caused it or how it happened. It describes anything after it...

God theory... Similarly to the big bang, God theory has a territory called "unknown". Anything that happens and cannot be explained to how or why it happened, it is linked to the "unknown". What do you call the unknown: GOD, Qamata, Yhwh, Allah, Kemarsh, Jehovah, I AM, El OHM, EL SHADA etc.
 

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The Big Bang Theory does not make claims about the existence of any deities. That is all there ever needs to be to this question.
Well it actually does, and there are heaps of very very solid scientific proofs behind the claim that we're all made of the same stardust. Almost every element on Earth was formed at the heart of a star.

Think about it next time you’re out gazing at stars twinkling in the night sky, spare a thought for the tumultuous reactions they play host to. It’s easy to forget that stars owe their light to the energy released by nuclear fusion reactions at their cores. These are the very same reactions which created chemical elements like carbon or iron - the building blocks which make up the world around us. Including us. Think about it, we're in a way essentially all the same, and all connected trough this.

After the big bang boom; tiny particles bound together to form hydrogen and helium. As time went on, young stars formed when clouds of gas and dust gathered under the effect of gravity, heating up as they became denser. At the stars’ cores, bathed in temperatures of over 10 million degrees C, hydrogen and then helium nuclei fused to form heavier elements. A reaction known as nucleosynthesis.

This reaction continues in stars today as lighter elements are converted into heavier ones. Relatively young stars like our Sun convert hydrogen to produce helium, just like the first stars of our universe. Once they run out of hydrogen, they begin to transform helium into beryllium and carbon. As these heavier nuclei are produced, they too are burnt inside stars to synthesise heavier and heavier elements. Different sized stars play host to different fusion reactions, eventually forming everything from oxygen to iron.

During a supernova, when a massive star explodes at the end of its life, the resulting high energy environment enables the creation of some of the heaviest elements including iron and nickel. The explosion also disperses the different elements across the universe, scattering the stardust which now makes up planets including Earth, beings and lifeforms including us and almost everything else on Earth.
 
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Well it actually does, and there are heaps of very very solid scientific proofs behind the claim that we're all made of the same stardust. Almost every element on Earth was formed at the heart of a star.

Think about it next time you’re out gazing at stars twinkling in the night sky, spare a thought for the tumultuous reactions they play host to. It’s easy to forget that stars owe their light to the energy released by nuclear fusion reactions at their cores. These are the very same reactions which created chemical elements like carbon or iron - the building blocks which make up the world around us. Including us. Think about it, we're in a way essentially all the same, and all connected trough this.

After the big bang boom; tiny particles bound together to form hydrogen and helium. As time went on, young stars formed when clouds of gas and dust gathered under the effect of gravity, heating up as they became denser. At the stars’ cores, bathed in temperatures of over 10 million degrees C, hydrogen and then helium nuclei fused to form heavier elements. A reaction known as nucleosynthesis.

This reaction continues in stars today as lighter elements are converted into heavier ones. Relatively young stars like our Sun convert hydrogen to produce helium, just like the first stars of our universe. Once they run out of hydrogen, they begin to transform helium into beryllium and carbon. As these heavier nuclei are produced, they too are burnt inside stars to synthesise heavier and heavier elements. Different sized stars play host to different fusion reactions, eventually forming everything from oxygen to iron.

During a supernova, when a massive star explodes at the end of its life, the resulting high energy environment enables the creation of some of the heaviest elements including iron and nickel. The explosion also disperses the different elements across the universe, scattering the stardust which now makes up planets including Earth, beings and lifeforms including us and almost everything else on Earth.
That's nice.


The Big Bang Theory does not make claims about the existence of any deities.
 
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The Big Bang theory is bull crap

1 - THE BIG BANG THEORY

The Big Bang theory has been accepted by a majority of scientists today. It theorizes that a large quantity of nothing decided to pack tightly together, and then exploded outward into hydrogen and helium. This gas is said to have flowed outward through frictionless space to eventually form stars, galaxies, planets, and moons. It all sounds so simple, just as you would find in a science fiction novel. And that is all it is.

"a large quantity of nothing decided to pack tightly together, and then exploded outward into hydrogen and helium"
say WHAT!!
Your simple minded logic doesnt apply to physics of that lvl... sinple as that. You dont understand and and never will. Thats why we need math geniouses and physicists who can actually work with this.
 

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Well it actually does, and there are heaps of very very solid scientific proofs behind the claim that we're all made of the same stardust. Almost every element on Earth was formed at the heart of a star.

Think about it next time you’re out gazing at stars twinkling in the night sky, spare a thought for the tumultuous reactions they play host to. It’s easy to forget that stars owe their light to the energy released by nuclear fusion reactions at their cores. These are the very same reactions which created chemical elements like carbon or iron - the building blocks which make up the world around us. Including us. Think about it, we're in a way essentially all the same, and all connected trough this.

After the big bang boom; tiny particles bound together to form hydrogen and helium. As time went on, young stars formed when clouds of gas and dust gathered under the effect of gravity, heating up as they became denser. At the stars’ cores, bathed in temperatures of over 10 million degrees C, hydrogen and then helium nuclei fused to form heavier elements. A reaction known as nucleosynthesis.

This reaction continues in stars today as lighter elements are converted into heavier ones. Relatively young stars like our Sun convert hydrogen to produce helium, just like the first stars of our universe. Once they run out of hydrogen, they begin to transform helium into beryllium and carbon. As these heavier nuclei are produced, they too are burnt inside stars to synthesise heavier and heavier elements. Different sized stars play host to different fusion reactions, eventually forming everything from oxygen to iron.

During a supernova, when a massive star explodes at the end of its life, the resulting high energy environment enables the creation of some of the heaviest elements including iron and nickel. The explosion also disperses the different elements across the universe, scattering the stardust which now makes up planets including Earth, beings and lifeforms including us and almost everything else on Earth.
My friend you're in too deep like a teenage me.

Bing Bang supposedly made 78% Hydrogen, 21% Helium and 1% of lithium.

The rest of known and still to be known and unknown elements were formed during the nuclear fusion in the Red Giant stars cores when they run out of hydrogen to convert to helium: E = MC^2 using that equation. Then the star collapses forming the 2nd brightest thing known :supernova. During the collapse the elements that were created follow the same principle again to form rocky planets(the rest is you and me)...

The problem with this Bing Bang theory is that

* Thermodynamic: Energy cannot be created nor destroyed, Bing Bang says f*ck that
* Laws around permit an existence of a point in space where all dimensions are = 0. Singularity
 

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So you're religious but you believe in the big bang, laws of psyhics and the universe? Interesting.
I have seen devoted religious people (Muslims to be specific) who believe in theory of evolution. It is not that odd as BB does not outright rejects or defies a religious lifestyle.
 
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Well it actually does, and there are heaps of very very solid scientific proofs behind the claim that we're all made of the same stardust. Almost every element on Earth was formed at the heart of a star.

Think about it next time you’re out gazing at stars twinkling in the night sky, spare a thought for the tumultuous reactions they play host to. It’s easy to forget that stars owe their light to the energy released by nuclear fusion reactions at their cores. These are the very same reactions which created chemical elements like carbon or iron - the building blocks which make up the world around us. Including us. Think about it, we're in a way essentially all the same, and all connected trough this.

After the big bang boom; tiny particles bound together to form hydrogen and helium. As time went on, young stars formed when clouds of gas and dust gathered under the effect of gravity, heating up as they became denser. At the stars’ cores, bathed in temperatures of over 10 million degrees C, hydrogen and then helium nuclei fused to form heavier elements. A reaction known as nucleosynthesis.

This reaction continues in stars today as lighter elements are converted into heavier ones. Relatively young stars like our Sun convert hydrogen to produce helium, just like the first stars of our universe. Once they run out of hydrogen, they begin to transform helium into beryllium and carbon. As these heavier nuclei are produced, they too are burnt inside stars to synthesise heavier and heavier elements. Different sized stars play host to different fusion reactions, eventually forming everything from oxygen to iron.

During a supernova, when a massive star explodes at the end of its life, the resulting high energy environment enables the creation of some of the heaviest elements including iron and nickel. The explosion also disperses the different elements across the universe, scattering the stardust which now makes up planets including Earth, beings and lifeforms including us and almost everything else on Earth.
As Your Creepy Stalker has said, this is all nice and stuff but..A deity and stardust are two completely different things.
The big bang theory does not make any sort of reference about the existence of deities.
 

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They are just theories. They are not facts.

And if you're really religious, you have to wonder, "Are we the first species to be created in 'Gods image'?" If God created the universe - or everything for that matter - that is the most important question you need to ask yourself.
 
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