Does Jinton or Onmyoudon work on Yata Mirror

[ComplexCity]

This is pathetic.

You're so obsessed with trying to prove me wrong on everything that you deliberately ignore facts and choose to believe in speculation (and continually break the rules by spamming threads with your obsession).

I refuse to acknowledge your garbage posts from here on out. Find someone else to obsess over.

Nice debating skills buddy. Don't worry I'm not the only one who finds you to be a fanboy. Whenever it comes to the Uchiha you're the first to jump up and defend. Can't change the mind of fanboys. You presented a DB scan devoid of logic when Obito has done the opposite of what you posted. Good day

 

[Aznkidd]

Yata def against a small part from sickbed Orochimaru is count as feat
The only thing Totsuka ever seal = escape in the next second

 

[The Necromancer]

I just find it amusing when I see fallacies being used as arguments such as:

"You have no proof that Yata can block it, therefore it can't"

Despite Jinton being Ninjutsu and it being a spiritual shield and by description of it's abilities being capable of altering it's properties to negate incoming attacks they expect you to provide feats when the burden of proof is actually on them to explain, based on the shields properties and information on it why it would not be able to do so and 99% of the response are either ignorant and repetitive or simply hate. ​

People just hate Itachi and the fact that Kishi praises him at every possible instance.

I'm an Itachi fan, and I can admit when he loses, but haters can't stand him winning anything.

 

[Waltz]

...Or Ad hominems. ​

 

[ComplexCity]

I just find it amusing when I see fallacies being used as arguments such as:

"You have no proof that Yata can block it, therefore it can't"

Despite Jinton being Ninjutsu and it being a spiritual shield and by description of it's abilities being capable of altering it's properties to negate incoming attacks they expect you to provide feats when the burden of proof is actually on them to explain, based on the shields properties and information on it why it would not be able to do so and 99% of the response are either ignorant and repetitive or simply hate. ​

It has nothing to do with hate, it's called backing up a claim which you cannot do

 

[Waltz]

People just hate Itachi and the fact that Kishi praises him at every possible instance.

I'm an Itachi fan, and I can admit when he loses, but haters can't stand him winning anything.

Yeah but the General intelligence level on NB is low as is the ability to logically reason. Attempts can be made but most should often be left to reside in their ignorance. ​

 

[NarutoX28]

Where did you get that from?

temari scarred the third raikage whereas frs didnt.

And naruto also hasnt tried to blow away the entire universe with frs so the whole point is moot anyway

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How about the fact that Naruto knocked Sandaime Raikage on his ass for a few seconds whereas Temari along with the entire Shinobi Alliance couldn't do a single thing.

The next point is irrelevant as even RSM Naruto's BDFRS doesn't have feats that can blow away an entire universe. Even Base RSM Naruto's Yoton FRS could barely slice through the entire Shinju. Manga suggests FRS > Temari's Futon and manga has shown that Naruto's FRS can't even come close to blowing away the entire universe which makes Temari's hype invalid.

Yata Mirror's hype has been supported by both Manga and Databook, so until you can prove that Yata Mirror's hype is false, Necromancer's point still stands.

 

[The Necromancer]

Yeah but the General intelligence level on NB is low as is the ability to logically reason. Attempts can be made but most should often be left to reside in their ignorance. ​

Agreed.

It's funny, because I used to be one of the members who would respond with long paragraphs, full of manga scans and databook support, but it's just not worth it anymore because the intelligence around here is so low that no amount of factual evidence will convince them.

ComplexCity is actually spamming by bringing up a month's old debate in every thread I'm in, despite it ending (and beginning honestly) with my post of 100% proof.

 

[Waltz]

It has nothing to do with hate, it's called backing up a claim which you cannot do

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[deadp00l]

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How about the fact that Naruto knocked Sandaime Raikage on his ass for a few seconds whereas Temari along with the entire Shinobi Alliance couldn't do a single thing.

Even Base RSM Naruto's Yoton FRS could barely slice through the entire Shinju. Manga suggests FRS > Temari's Futon and manga has shown that Naruto's FRS can't even come close to blowing away the entire universe which makes Temari's hype invalid.

Yata Mirror's hype has been supported by both Manga and Databook, so until you can prove that Yata Mirror's hype is false, Necromancer's point still stands.

All irrelevant unless you can post a scan where temari tries blowing universe and fails, thats how hype will be disproven

The next point is irrelevant as even RSM Naruto's BDFRS doesn't have feats that can blow away an entire universe.

Hahahahaha

how ironic, you are defending yata's hype and lack of feats by citing the lack of feats of another technique.

How amusing

 

[ComplexCity]

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So again by this logic based on DB and manga facts, Prime Hiruzen is the best Leaf Shinobi since it has been stated so by multiple sources

 

[deadp00l]

In this thread I learned that "doesnt have feats" only applies to techniques other than itachi's.

 

[Waltz]

So by your logic, if a source that has been disproved on multiple occasions then the credibility of such source is still valid even if there is no evidence, facts nor support backing the conjecture of said claim? I will be sure to source fox news in General Discussion debates


Just because Yata alter and withstood fodder like and physical attacks does not make it live up to its hype when it's featless against elemental jutsu

A source being disproved on multiple occasions does not mean every bit of Material in that source is false. That is your error for making a hasty generalization on the Databooks behalf when there is tremendous amounts of valid information in it's literal context ranging form jutsu description, ranges to heights and Ages of Shinobi. My argument is there is evidence for Yata's abilities that are written in the Databook description on the shield that would allow it to negate Jinton which is by altering it's properties and if it is able to do this for Omnyoudon as well then it will negate it, on the other hand your argument is asking for feats of physical achievements of it being able to do so to validate the propositions I provided which by definition is an argument from ignorance; in more accurate terms, a fallacy. ​

 

[-immortal-]

In this thread I learned that "doesnt have feats" only applies to techniques other than itachi's.

Then show me a feat of jinton > yata?

 

[Aznkidd]

Then show me a feat of jinton > yata?

Show me a feat of yata def against anything else other than small part from sick bed orochimaru

 

[Dantee]

Jinton < Yata

 

[-immortal-]

Show me a feat of yata def against anything else other than small part from sick bed orochimaru

I only asked why get so salty and act cool with these emoji

 

[deadp00l]

Then show me a feat of jinton > yata?

If a scan of these two clashing existed then this wouldn't be much of a debate. Not that it is even now.

Jinton has leveled an entire forest and obliterated an army of susanoo whereas yata has only blocked a dozen paper bombs and some physical attacks. Jinton has far better and destructive feats than yata.

Hypocrites try to use data book of yata hype while disregarding other same data book hype

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

Jinton < Yata < Onmyoudon IMO personally.

How would atomising work on a spiritual weapon? REGARDLESS. Spiritual weapons in this world would be the result of chakra existing. Hence it IS ninjutsu of some sort. TSB slices it in my eyes.

Whilst the databook is full of hyperbole and is hugely frustrating from a narrative aspect, the fact that it is BZ stating this that makes it pretty concrete. Yata/Totsuka are HYPE devices like Kishi does all the time, just bc of their irrelevancy they're ones that never really show up again and so were never rectified or put in the world of later Shippuden by Kishi. So whilst Zetsu (who IS TSB himself) is impressed by these tools (Likely Indra's) You really do have to take that description of it with a grain of salt when practically applying them to Naruto discussion. How literal you believe the DB to be is up to you.

 

[Dantee]

Yata is not ninjutsu. Jinton cannot break down something without physical form. Yata shits.