Does Jinton or Onmyoudon work on Yata Mirror

[The Necromancer]

How do I have it backwards when it's featless against elemental jutsu?

I guess by your logic Temari, Hiruzen, Kakashi, Kabutowari and all other featless hype in the DB is true.

I expect nothingless from you though I mean you are the same person who thinks Obito phase through or warp things that are already

I don't know what bold means.

Every other word you typed has already been covered here.

 

[deadp00l]

*Kishi, not BZ. Kishi has not really ever made itachi look bad even when he fought with EMS Sasuke who should be vastly superior

Kabuto sliced itachi in half.

 

[V h o]

Kabuto sliced itachi in half.

Yet apart of itachis plan for izanami

 

[The Necromancer]

I guess Nechypocritemancer only listens to databook when itachi hype is written not temari or any other hype

Haha. You're an idiot.

 

[ComplexCity]

I don't know what bold means.

Every other word you typed has already been covered here.

It was a typo. Regardless not getting back to that. You'll just deny logic like you always do

Hirzuens hype hasn't been proven/disproven. Meaning he's the strongest in the leaf by your logic

Temari's hype hasn't been proven/disproven
Kabutowari hype has never been tried


Try again fanboy

 

[deadp00l]

Yet apart of itachis plan for izanami

No, it wasnt he was screaming for sasuke after that.

He activated izanami on the fly though.

 

[The Necromancer]

It was a typo. Regardless not getting back to that. You'll just deny logic like you always do

Hirzuens hype hasn't been proven. Meaning he's the strongest in the leaf by your logic

Temari's hype hasn't been proven/disproven
Kabutowari hype has never been tried


Try again fanboy

I don't need to try. My side is backed by multiple sources, your side is backed by speculation. Simple as that.

There's no reason to discuss this any further. It's been beaten into the ground. This thread might as well be spam at this point.

 

[deadp00l]

I am still waiting on how temari hype was disproved. To my knowledge she has never tried to blow away the entire universe unless Nechypocritemancer can provide a scan where she tries that.

 

[Dantee]

Yata gg.

 

[V h o]

No, it wasnt he was screaming for sasuke after that.

He activated izanami on the fly though.

If you say so

 

[deadp00l]

If you say so

just curious if you really think kishi never tried to make itachi look bad, why did he not have him "solo" kabuto

Why was itachi forced to take help from sasuke and bisected him half

 

[YellowFang]

Doubt about Jinton but TSBs will definitely break through Yata...

 

[Waltz]

Everything written in the Databook isn't an exaggerated claim. Majority seem to thing that any material coming from the Databook must be validated to be proven true while completely overlooking the fact that it is reference point for information concerning the Naruto Manga. Trying to compare hyperbole's made on Temari to what is written about Yata is the typical strawman fallacy giving the impression of refuting Necromancers argument, while actually refuting an argument that was not advanced by him. The Manga supports the Databook's claim's on Yata-no-Kagami and gives a description of how the shield works. It would negate Jinton for the simple fact that it would alter it's properties in accordance with the attack therefore rendering it useless. That is the function of the spiritual Shield. As for Omnyoudon: If Yata-no-Kagami can alter it's properties to rival it then it will negate it. Lastly, the burden of proof to prove that Yata isn't capable of such feats are upon those stating that it incapable of doing so since regarding the OP's question: The information regarding the shield isn't flawed in any reasonable, logical standpoint or by the Manga. A case where it is flawed would be if one was to claim the hyperbole that the shield could withstand any attack to be fact as that would be applying the No limits fallacy to the shield to say that it could withstand an infinite amount of pressure from any substance-force. ​

 

[The Necromancer]

Everything written in the Databook isn't an exaggerated claim. Majority seem to thing that any material coming from the Databook must be validated to be proven true while completely overlooking the fact that it is reference point for information concerning the Naruto Manga. Trying to compare hyperbole's made on Temari to what is written about Yata is the typical strawman fallacy giving the impression of refuting Necromancers argument, while actually refuting an argument that was not advanced by him. The Manga supports the Databook's claim's on Yata-no-Kagami and gives a description of how the shield works. It would negate Jinton for the simple fact that it would alter it's properties in accordance with the attack therefore rendering it useless. That is the function of the spiritual Shield. As for Omnyoudon: If Yata-no-Kagami can alter it's properties to rival it then it will negate it. Lastly, the burden of proof to prove that Yata isn't capable of such feats are upon those stating that it incapable of doing so since regarding the OP's question: The information regarding the shield isn't flawed in any reasonable, logical standpoint or by the Manga. A case where it is flawed would be if one was to claim the hyperbole that the shield could withstand any attack to be fact as that would be applying the No limits fallacy to the shield to say that it could withstand an infinite amount of pressure from any substance-force. ​

Thank you. You are a much more patient person when dealing with these kinds of people than I am.

 

[NarutoX28]

When was temari's hype disproved?

Temari never tried to blow away the whole universe.

What a shameless hypocrite you are

FRS > Temari's Futon yet FRS can't blow away the entire universe.

Please try to apply some common sense.

 

[ComplexCity]

I don't need to try. My side is backed by multiple sources, your side is backed by speculation. Simple as that

Like the exagerrated DB that has been disproven and proven to be unreliable? Nice source

Let me spell it out for you because it's really not hard to understand at all

The flames were on Obito -----> Obito cannot phase through attacks is already on him

Konan placed tags on Obito ----> He could not warp he had to slip through them

Obito warps parts of his body to Kamui ----> Whatever is on him will remain on him even in Kamuiland as shown when he was fighting with both Naruto and Kakashi and going intangible appearing in both dimensions when all he did was place the parts that were intangible in the Kamui Dimension


Obito has no way to put out the flames so if you were correct then either

a. Despite using Kamui, the flames should have remained in the spots they were burning in no matter the dimension
b. Obito has the ability to not only remove Amateratsu but phase parts of his body to Kamui and discard certain things on different parts of his body that are already on him before warping there

There's no reason to discuss this any further. It's been beaten into the ground. This thread might as well be spam at this point.

You're right it has and the fact of the matter is you cannot prove hype in a debate. Yata is near featless compared to its hype

Everything written in the Databook isn't an exaggerated claim. Majority seem to thing that any material coming from the Databook must be validated to be proven true while completely overlooking the fact that it is reference point for information concerning the Naruto Manga. Trying to compare hyperbole's made on Temari to what is written about Yata is the typical strawman fallacy giving the impression of refuting Necromancers argument, while actually refuting an argument that was not advanced by him. The Manga supports the Databook's claim's on Yata-no-Kagami and gives a description of how the shield works. It would negate Jinton for the simple fact that it would alter it's properties in accordance with the attack therefore rendering it useless. That is the function of the spiritual Shield. As for Omnyoudon: If Yata-no-Kagami can alter it's properties to rival it then it will negate it. Lastly, the burden of proof to prove that Yata isn't capable of such feats are upon those stating that it incapable of doing so since regarding the OP's question: The information regarding the shield isn't flawed in any reasonable, logical standpoint or by the Manga. A case where it is flawed would be if one was to claim the hyperbole that the shield could withstand any attack to be fact as that would be applying the No limits fallacy to the shield to say that it could withstand an infinite amount of pressure from any substance-force. ​

So by your logic, if a source that has been disproved on multiple occasions then the credibility of such source is still valid even if there is no evidence, facts nor support backing the conjecture of said claim? I will be sure to source fox news in General Discussion debates


Just because Yata alter and withstood fodder like and physical attacks does not make it live up to its hype when it's featless against elemental jutsu

 

[deadp00l]

FRS > Temari's Futon yet FRS can't blow away the entire universe.

Please try to apply some common sense.

Where did you get that from?

temari scarred the third raikage whereas frs didnt.

And naruto also hasnt tried to blow away the entire universe with frs so the whole point is moot anyway

 

[The Necromancer]

Like the exagerrated DB that has been disproven and proven to be unreliable? Nice source

Let me spell it out for you because it's really not hard to understand at all

The flames were on Obito -----> Obito cannot phase through attacks is already on him

Konan placed tags on Obito ----> He could not warp he had to slip through them

Obito warps parts of his body to Kamui ----> Whatever is on him will remain on him even in Kamuiland as shown when he was fighting with both Naruto and Kakashi and going intangible appearing in both dimensions when all he did was place the parts that were intangible in the Kamui Dimension


Obito has no way to put out the flames so if you were correct then either

a. Despite using Kamui, the flames should have remained in the spots they were burning in no matter the dimension
b. Obito has the ability to not only remove Amateratsu but phase parts of his body to Kamui and discard certain things on different parts of his body that are already on him before warping there







You're right it has and the fact of the matter is you cannot prove hype in a debate. Yata is near featless compared to its hype

This is pathetic.

You're so obsessed with trying to prove me wrong on everything that you deliberately ignore facts and choose to believe in speculation (and continually break the rules by spamming threads with your obsession).

I refuse to acknowledge your garbage posts from here on out. Find someone else to obsess over.

 

[Dantee]

Yata gg. +1 post count

 

[Waltz]

Thank you. You are a much more patient person when dealing with these kinds of people than I am.

I just find it amusing when I see fallacies being used as arguments such as:

"You have no proof that Yata can block it, therefore it can't"

Despite Jinton being Ninjutsu and it being a spiritual shield and by description of it's abilities being capable of altering it's properties to negate incoming attacks they expect you to provide feats when the burden of proof is actually on them to explain, based on the shields properties and information on it why it would not be able to do so and 99% of the response are either ignorant and repetitive or simply hate. ​