gerizzyYMcrew
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comedy is not simple...not at all...the "simplicity" of dragon ball is atrocious...the breaker is a simple manga yet it outclasses dragon ball by a continent...understand?
Why do supposed "fans" hate Naruto?
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Once again explain why comedy isn't simple. Dont just say its not simple. This might be hard for you to grasp but just saying its not simple isn't an explanation.
Your point? Dragon ball is simple so the **** what where is your point? Its bad because its simply written just like Star wars and many other great films, like every disney movie ever made, every classic old tale like the oddesy and many other well written stories? Why is that bad where is your proof? Why do you insist on pretending like this is anything but your opinion that this makes it bad. Simple stories are the most frequently well written stories because its easier to communicate message to the audience using simplicity. So simplicity certainly doesn't make it written badly if that's what you are getting at.
No I dont understand I fail understand what your point is. You keep saying things with no proof or facts to back them up. Dragon ball is simple okay so?.......... elaborate.......use facts this time. If you have none then admit its just your opinion.
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Espadara Uchiha
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Do you know why I hate Naruto? Not because of the shit story, or OP characters, but because of Naruto.
What happened to the boy yearning for affection? What happened to the boy always trying his best to be accepted? What happened to the boy who only acted out in the hope for any form of attention?
When did the mask become the real Naruto?
Part I...was amazing. I really enjoyed it. What was Akatsuki? What is Orochimaru truly planning? The Sasuke Retrieval arc was ****ing incredible. Sasuke and Naruto's convo at the Valley of the End still makes me grin like an idiot.
Sasuke: "What...what are you!"
Naruto: "I'm your friend!"
I practically grew up with Naruto, and seeing that determination as he drew upon the Fox's power was amazing. To know that he would dip into the power of a demon to save his friend...
Then Shippuden changed that.
Naruto became a total idiot. He learned practically nothing during the three year time skip. Instead of being wild demons, the Biju became connected. Sasuke became 'lol so stronk', and Naruto and Sakura did jack shit in actually trying to bring him back.
Orochimaru became a total ***** in the grand scheme of things. Oh, you thought the Snake Sannin was top shit? lol no he got neg dif by Itachi and everyone in Akatsuki can kick his ass kek zozzle.
Then the Biju became all secretly good guys, honest, and Naruto and Kyuubi became 'best buds 4ever'. Itachi secretly killed the clan to stop a coup de tat, which, while actually a pretty nice twist, doesn't quite explain why he continuously mind raped Sasuke. I personally prefer the explanation that Itachi never really considered the fact that Sasuke isn't like how he was at that age, and can't shrug off horrible mind rape.
Danzo was introduced, and while a total badass, he's ultimately just Kishi's scapegoat for explaining all the 'bad' (read: ninja) shit Konoha has done.
The entire 'Kumo wanted the Byakugan' is quietly dropped, being only mentioned once by Yamato. Also, for a guy who carries the genes of the First, nobody ****ing gives a shit about him.
What was once a series about following your dreams and never giving up turned into a series filled with lovely messages such as 'You can do anything as long as you're the reincarnation of Jesus Christ and have a loveable chakra entity living inside you'.
What happened to the boy yearning for affection? What happened to the boy always trying his best to be accepted? What happened to the boy who only acted out in the hope for any form of attention?
When did the mask become the real Naruto?
Part I...was amazing. I really enjoyed it. What was Akatsuki? What is Orochimaru truly planning? The Sasuke Retrieval arc was ****ing incredible. Sasuke and Naruto's convo at the Valley of the End still makes me grin like an idiot.
Sasuke: "What...what are you!"
Naruto: "I'm your friend!"
I practically grew up with Naruto, and seeing that determination as he drew upon the Fox's power was amazing. To know that he would dip into the power of a demon to save his friend...
Then Shippuden changed that.
Naruto became a total idiot. He learned practically nothing during the three year time skip. Instead of being wild demons, the Biju became connected. Sasuke became 'lol so stronk', and Naruto and Sakura did jack shit in actually trying to bring him back.
Orochimaru became a total ***** in the grand scheme of things. Oh, you thought the Snake Sannin was top shit? lol no he got neg dif by Itachi and everyone in Akatsuki can kick his ass kek zozzle.
Then the Biju became all secretly good guys, honest, and Naruto and Kyuubi became 'best buds 4ever'. Itachi secretly killed the clan to stop a coup de tat, which, while actually a pretty nice twist, doesn't quite explain why he continuously mind raped Sasuke. I personally prefer the explanation that Itachi never really considered the fact that Sasuke isn't like how he was at that age, and can't shrug off horrible mind rape.
Danzo was introduced, and while a total badass, he's ultimately just Kishi's scapegoat for explaining all the 'bad' (read: ninja) shit Konoha has done.
The entire 'Kumo wanted the Byakugan' is quietly dropped, being only mentioned once by Yamato. Also, for a guy who carries the genes of the First, nobody ****ing gives a shit about him.
What was once a series about following your dreams and never giving up turned into a series filled with lovely messages such as 'You can do anything as long as you're the reincarnation of Jesus Christ and have a loveable chakra entity living inside you'.
gerizzyYMcrew
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you think delivering great comedy is simple?...nothing in life is simple when it comes to entertainment...I don't have to explain the freaking obvious...
dragon ball and it's "simple fighting" was overrated and terrible...the fights in that fighting series was garbage...that alone makes it a shit series since you emphasize simplicity so much correct?...
for "simple villains" frieza was laughable (while still being the best villain of the series LMAOOO)...majin buu was a joke...and cell was a disaster with no originality...
not even gonna talk about the plot (or lack there of)...you are right simplicity does not make dragon ball badly written....it makes it terribly written...these are not opinions...these are facts
DominiqueX
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Don't want to join the conversation, because I already made my points up, but I would like to add something here:
Me and my friends cried of laughter while watching a chimney-fire DVD in the middle of the night. Sometimes we can't breathe because we laugh so much when one of us makes a funny one-liner comment. We were laughing without control while watching an anime that was solely filled with poofy-gay guys.
Entertainment is easy if you are just chilled and don't take everything so serious.
Comedy or entertainment in general can be very simple. It just depends on ones attitudes and expectations.
Me and my friends cried of laughter while watching a chimney-fire DVD in the middle of the night. Sometimes we can't breathe because we laugh so much when one of us makes a funny one-liner comment. We were laughing without control while watching an anime that was solely filled with poofy-gay guys.
Entertainment is easy if you are just chilled and don't take everything so serious.
Jack Spicer
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Your statement I wrong, because it implies nothing good can come out of simplicity in entertainment. Which is a load of horse shit because entertainment is a subjective medium. What someone finds entertaining another person may not.
You think dragon ball fights are bad I ****ing love them, I also love the simplicity of the story because as I said it is easy to understand which makes it easier to be immersed in. You gonna tell me I'm wrong and they aren't good? How you gonna say my opinion is wrong? You can't.
There I easily disproved your so called facts . They are not facts just your opinion. I never said db fights where simple I said the story was. The villains are just bad on your opinion as writing wise they are fine. The plot is a traditional good vs evil story a tradition that happens in,almost every Comic book story movie, films, and games alike. Your assumption that this is bad is typical of someone whom thinks they now what good bad writing is( even though they never studied it and know they dont that's you) but don't.
Now once again prove its bad with facts tho time otherwise admit as I have proven over and over that its just your opinion which I totally respect by the way and completely understand as o use too feel similarly about DB. Though my opinion changed once I learned how to write stories characters ect and whatched the whole series again.
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gerizzyYMcrew
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nothing is simple about entertainment unless you have the mindset of a kid...do you?...
why do you love dragon ball fights?...what the hell is entertaining about goku powering up for just to deliver a terible finish?...half of dragon ball fights are powering up...they ****ing suck...
dragon ball has shitty fighting with shitty characters and a shitty plot...so what are you stuck with?..."simplicity" lolololololol
Your whole view of the fights are a combination of massive exaggerations and things that simply aren't true. They don't sit there and power up for hours that's a massive exaggeration.
Anyway i asked you to bring facts so where are they? And why are you still using that simplicity excuse? I proved how that's complete bullshit in so many ways by now you'd think you'd get it at this point.
MAN OF SIN
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It went downhill during the Sasuke Retieveal arc and went to shit at the end of the Pain Invasion arc.
Pure and simply.
Pure and simply.
GaaraXSakura4eva
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Okay, I'll bite. I read these and wanted to clear up some things.
To Arai, Obito's reasoning for his actions were definitely terrible reasons. He had decided to punish the entire world because a girl he obsessed over was killed. He was ready to live in a dream of his delusions of Rin. Rin NEVER returned Obito's feelings. She had feelings for Kakashi. Obito knew this but did not accept this. So, no, his delusional beliefs of being with Rin were not good reasons to murder countless individuals, ruin other peoples lives, and start a war.
To gerizzyYMcrew, they are comparable because the reasoning for both are so stupid, I don't know where to start.
narutojunky
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uhhhh...
Batman has been running since 1939.
Superman since 1938.
X-Men since 1963.
The Avengers since 1960.
Spiderman since 1962.
etc. etc. etc.
Of course the point being that the original creators are long gone from the series and they have persisted as fans love the characters.
Naruto and spin offs should continue as fans love the characters.
As for those fans that love the earlier parts of Naruto more then the characters or fans that love Kishimoto's drawing and writing more then the characters should just stop reading I suppose.
I read X-Men from 1988 to 1998, just a small bit of the series, but I will never ask that X-Men just go away if my interest has waned.
I'm sorry if a lot of people didn't like the ending of Naruto. It was rushed by the publishing company and not the author.
I however would read a million Kaguya fights to read all of those super rad edo kage battles.
And frankly how long did we want the joygasm of Sasuke becoming good to last?
Those beautiful last chapters were so intense, heartwarming and fun.
So I suppose thanks Kishimoto for giving up your youth to make this amazing world that we all feel is important enough to love and hate.
As with Batman and all the rest I hope your character lives on past my lifetime and brings joy to countless more millions.
Batman has been running since 1939.
Superman since 1938.
X-Men since 1963.
The Avengers since 1960.
Spiderman since 1962.
etc. etc. etc.
Of course the point being that the original creators are long gone from the series and they have persisted as fans love the characters.
Naruto and spin offs should continue as fans love the characters.
As for those fans that love the earlier parts of Naruto more then the characters or fans that love Kishimoto's drawing and writing more then the characters should just stop reading I suppose.
I read X-Men from 1988 to 1998, just a small bit of the series, but I will never ask that X-Men just go away if my interest has waned.
I'm sorry if a lot of people didn't like the ending of Naruto. It was rushed by the publishing company and not the author.
I however would read a million Kaguya fights to read all of those super rad edo kage battles.
And frankly how long did we want the joygasm of Sasuke becoming good to last?
Those beautiful last chapters were so intense, heartwarming and fun.
So I suppose thanks Kishimoto for giving up your youth to make this amazing world that we all feel is important enough to love and hate.
As with Batman and all the rest I hope your character lives on past my lifetime and brings joy to countless more millions.
Honord Sage
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Many who don’t like Naruto are NaruSaku Fans who are mad at Kishi and NaruHina Fans for their Flawless Victory over them. They even tried to Band Naruto from the USA and threaten Kishi with bodily harm.
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gerizzyYMcrew
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gerizzyYMcrew
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well obito told kakashi that he did not start a war JUST for rin...but for the contradiction of the ninja system...so that's half true
