The freedom of being an atheist.

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Same but i still pretened to be religious so i can keep living with my parents under their roof
 

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You're my antithesis, then. It was only after I stopped being an atheist that I started to value things more. I became more open-minded to new things f.e religion. Finding faith was the best thing that happened to me.

So, I guess, let's just be happy for each other's happiness.
 

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Congratulation.

If I may ask, what did you put "work" in that you felt so proud?

Anyway, I think that pride isn't a good feeling, because for pride a person is willing to put another person down, for pride, a person is willing to kill another person.

'A person is willing to kill another person'. For pride.
Or for religion.
 

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Don't blame religion if stupid people use to justify their violence with it.

Maybe. But as many , if not more people have been killed because of religion as have been killed because of pride.
Also, deeply religious people also enjoy 'putting down' other people who's behaviour they deem as contradictory to their faith.(responding to that guy)
 

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Maybe. But as many , if not more people have been killed because of religion as have been killed because of pride.
Also, deeply religious people also enjoy 'putting down' other people who's behaviour they deem as contradictory to their faith.(responding to that guy)

Also, many religious people have been killed by atheists because of their faith (Remember URSS, Mao's China or even Nazi Germany). Near a place where I lived, in northern Italy, there is a mass grave where atheist communist partisans slaughtered hundreds of catholic partisans because of their religion. But I don't go around pointing my finger on atheism because of that, I'm smart enough to understand that atheism is just a justification for their bloodlust here, as well as Christianity for inquisition, crusades ecc..

@Deadlift...Religion is what makes them think that way anyway.

I can assure you that there are many more people who do good because of religion. But of course the are only intelligent, open minded and good atheists and medieval and bigot religious people
 

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Also, many religious people have been killed by atheists because of their faith (Remember URSS, Mao's China or even Nazi Germany). Near a place where I lived, in northern Italy, there is a mass grave where atheist communist partisans slaughtered hundreds of catholic partisans because of their religion. But I don't go around pointing my finger on atheism because of that, I'm smart enough to understand that atheism is just a justification for their bloodlust here, as well as Christianity for inquisition, crusades ecc..

Hitler and the Nazis weren't Atheists, they were Christian (extremist Christians)
 

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The butthurtness is strong in this one

You seem to know a lot about "butthurtness"

Hitler and the Nazis weren't Atheists, they were Christian (extremist Christians)

Nope, they totally refused the idea of an Hebrew Jesus. Their religion was a mixture of northern paganism and oriental occultism
 

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Also, many religious people have been killed by atheists because of their faith (Remember URSS, Mao's China or even Nazi Germany). Near a place where I lived, in northern Italy, there is a mass grave where atheist communist partisans slaughtered hundreds of catholic partisans because of their religion. But I don't go around pointing my finger on atheism because of that, I'm smart enough to understand that atheism is just a justification for their bloodlust here, as well as Christianity for inquisition, crusades ecc..



I can assure you that there are many more people who do good because of religion. But of course the are only intelligent, open minded and good atheists and medieval and bigot religious people
Hitler was not an atheist, German soldiers had 'in god we trust' or words to that effect on their shoulders.
Stalins USSR was atheistic but their communistic totalitarianism was the cause of their violence. The idea is that any totalitarian philosophy is wrong and justifies violence be it absolute communism, absolute religious bigotry(common in the Muslim world) , or absolute racism in the case of the Nazis. And the best way to do away with oppressive creeds is by rejecting them and their exploitative ways.
 

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A negrep already? ._. You just proved me right right off the bat

It wasn't a threat. read :p

Sorry, I was in a bad mood.. Anyway let me suggest that personal insults aren't the best idea here.

Hitler was not an atheist, German soldiers had 'in god we trust' or words to that effect on their shoulders.
Stalins USSR was atheistic but their communistic totalitarianism was the cause of their violence. The idea is that any totalitarian philosophy is wrong and justifies violence be it absolute communism, absolute religious bigotry(common in the Muslim world) , or absolute racism in the case of the Nazis. And the best way to do away with oppressive creeds is by rejecting them and their exploitative ways.

True that Hitler wasn't atheist (or, at least, the character he played wasn't), but he also removed all the crosses in school and public offices, replacing them with his own portraits.
I agree for the best part of your second sentence, but I would reject them only if in case of ideological absolutism, because if you regardless ban all religions or ideologies, you will turn into an absolutist yourself
 

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True that Hitler wasn't atheist (or, at least, the character he played wasn't), but he also removed all the crosses in school and public offices, replacing them with his own portraits.
I agree for the best part of your second sentence, but I would reject them only if in case of ideological absolutism, because if you regardless ban all religions or ideologies, you will turn into an absolutist yourself
Historians dispute greatly whether or not he was, more are inclined to think he wasn't. For instance, he directly referenced the deity and the 'allmighty' in his book, mein Kampf.
Ideological absolutism is a vice, it is being imposed by many ideologies, around the world and more often than not its done by the religious.
Nobody is advocating an enforcement of atheism at the state level, but neither should the state officially support the enforcement of any given creed.

You wanna know one of the biggest causes of violence? The cult of personality, and the ability to influence people. Hitler was one hell of a speaker, just look at his speeches in giant rallies before the war. Throughout history far right extremist ideologies have used the cult of personality to enable and enfirce their barbaric dictates on a brain washed people.

Having said that, it doesn't help when there is widespread acceptance of a right wing ideology within a population, with any criticism of said ideology deemed 'blasphemous'
. Its like a giant powder keg waiting for a flame to set it alight.
 

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Well done.We don't need to give credit for being a good person to a fiction ancient comic book superhero characters.

You can become more open minded by learning anarchy,because government is the biggest religion in the world.
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