Senjus are not useless without mokuton so Uchihas are not useless without their eyes

[Dantee]

So where is the scan that says they were on par?? Unless you're saying Madara showing up with the EMS made the uchiha stronger.. (which it really didn't).

No clue how hard a concept it is to understand, that 1 man can't represent the strength of an entire clan. You also ignored the fact that Hashirama's Senju clan , wasn't the same as his dad's senju clan. His drive for power also was superior to his dad's, his ambition was also superior. Hashirama's leadership abilities is what strengthened the clan, not his mokuton.

It was dat Mokuton. and how many times are you gonna ignore the scan where it says when hired Uchiha other hired Senju? If Senju were so superior how was the average life span of a citizen 30 years old...Hashi's words.

 

[Pukkake Pokayo]

1.Wrong. Not all Uchihas were shown to have the sharingan. Most of them, but not all of them

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2. Black zetsu approached all of Indra's incarnates, not the generations. Indra's incarnates are not the whole clan, it's a selective few members that are chosen once every generation. That doesn't mean Indra's incarnates were unable to awaken the sharingan.

3. Tobirama and Hashirama talking about Tobirama's being forbidden was during edo tensei meaning any point after death (the village was establish then too). It's clear that it wasn't made during those wars because Madara also knows the edo tensei seal and all the details of the jutsu too.

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The bold part is completely false. The senju's were completely even with the Uchiha's with their eyes and with the wood release user such as hashirama was what gave them that edge. Hashirama was the only one who was unparalleled because he was slightly stronger than an EMS user. Besides that MS user was what put fear into Tobirama.
No other senju was able to compete with a mangekyo sharingan user besides Tobirama and Hashirama. That's it.
The rest were on par with the sharingan user both Hashirama and Madara's dad were said to be even.

Wrong. Sharingan was uncommon among Uchiha. Are you taking the piss or are you actually that stupid? That's what I've been telling you and you say "No. *Repeat what I say but more stupidly.*"

There's an Indra incarnate every generation or so. It's the same thing, depending on how long they lived. My point still stands. Maybe English just isn't your first language, in which case you're obviously excused. Sharingan is pretty much a given for Indra incarnates.

There have been multiple wars and constant battle/espionage/tension between villages post and pre Tobirama/Hashi.

GG.

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[Rikudou Tobi]

Wrong. Sharingan was uncommon among Uchiha. Are you taking the piss or are you actually that stupid? That's what I've been telling you and you say "No. *Repeat what I say but more stupidly.*"

Then why repeat what I just said in the OP? If it's uncommon as you said, then their is no point in bringing it up.

There's an Indra incarnate every generation or so. It's the same thing, depending on how long they lived. My point still stands. Maybe English just isn't your first language, in which case you're obviously excused. Sharingan is pretty much a given for Indra incarnates.

No you dumbass, one incarnate has to pass in order for them to be a new one. Madara never lived to Sasuke's time and same with Hashirama and naruto. Clearly you're an idiot.

There have been multiple wars and constant battle/espionage/tension between villages post and pre Tobirama/Hashi.

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Because Madara and Izuna (the strongest of their clans) left the battlefield you retard.

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[Pukkake Pokayo]

Then why repeat what I just said in the OP? If it's uncommon as you said, then their is no point in bringing it up.


No you dumbass, one incarnate has to pass in order for them to be a new one. Madara never lived to Sasuke's time and same with Hashirama and naruto. Clearly you're an idiot.


Because Madara and Izuna (the strongest of their clans) left the battlefield you retard.

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I'm not. However you are contradicting yourself.

Uncommon among hundreds/thousands >>>>>> one person having wood style.

Are you retarded? I said "or so" & "depending on how long they lived." Clearly you can't read as you're repeating what I've already said. AGAIN.

That scan just shows just how inferior the Uchiha were, you fool.

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

I'm not. However you are contradicting yourself.

Uncommon among hundreds/thousands >>>>>> one person having wood style.

And yet those uncommon Uchihas were still able to fight on par with the rest of the senjus. That's the whole point to this thread.
I've been posting this since the second page.

I said "or so" & "depending on how long they lived." Clearly you can't read as you're repeating what I've already said. AGAIN.

That scan just shows just how inferior the Uchiha were

No matter how long the interval is, the next incarnates will not meet. It doesn't matter how long they live, because even Madara who lived longer then he was suppose to still did not reach Sasuke's time. That "or so" is redundant because my point still stands.

 

[Pukkake Pokayo]

And yet those uncommon Uchihas were still able to fight on par with the rest of the senjus. That's the whole point to this thread.
I've been posting this since the second pag.


No matter how long the interval is, the next incarnates will not meet. It doesn't matter how long they live, because even Madara who lived longer then he was suppose to still did not reach Sasuke's time. That "or so" is redundant because my point still stands.

I'll have to spell it out for you.

Senju's without mokuton >>>>> Uchiha without sharingan. We know this because there have been an abundance of sharingan users throughout history while there was only one wood user at any given time. Therefore we can deduce that the Senju were in fact vastly superior without their wood God kkg as they were seen as superior or at least on par with the Uchiha who's kkg could've been anywhere from every 1-5 or 1-50 clan members. Do you not understand that?

I never said incarnates meet. My point still stands that were tonnes of incarnates. Your point doesn't still stand because you couldn't comprehend my post and therefore started spouting bs and lies or repeating what I had already said.

 

[unknownvillain1254]

And yet those uncommon Uchihas were still able to fight on par with the rest of the senjus. That's the whole point to this thread.
I've been posting this since the second page.


No matter how long the interval is, the next incarnates will not meet. It doesn't matter how long they live, because even Madara who lived longer then he was suppose to still did not reach Sasuke's time. That "or so" is redundant because my point still stands.

And lost

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

I'll have to spell it out for you.

Senju's without mokuton >>>>> Uchiha without sharingan. We know this because there have been an abundance of sharingan users throughout history while there was only one wood user at any given time. Therefore we can deduce that the Senju were in fact vastly superior without their wood God kkg as they were seen as superior or at least on par with the Uchiha who's kkg could've been anywhere from every 1-5 or 1-50 clan members. Do you not understand that?

Again. I shouldn't have to repeat myself by using the same f*cking page.

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"The sharingan is a physical condition that only appears in a selective few members of the Uchiha clan"
^^ Do you understand this or you still have a hard time following?
So those numbers you're pulling out doesn't mean anything you.
They were people in that clan that were unable to awaken the sharingan yet they were able to compete with the likes of the senju.
Not every senju was on Tobirama's level in which you need a mangekyo sharingan to beat. There are senju's out there that can be stalemate a 3 tomoe user (Hashirama and Madara's dad) and others that stalemate Uchihas without the sharingan.

I never said incarnates meet. My point still stands that were tonnes of incarnates. Your point doesn't still stand because you couldn't comprehend my post and therefore started spouting bs and lies or repeating what I had already said.

1. Incarnates have nothing to do with this thread
You don't know how many incarnates there's been and they serve no purpose to any of your points whatsoever.

 

[Pukkake Pokayo]

Again. I shouldn't have to repeat myself by using the same f*cking page.

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"The sharingan is a physical condition that only appears in a selective few members of the Uchiha clan"
^^ Do you understand this or you still have a hard time following?
So those numbers you're pulling out doesn't mean anything you senju.
They were people in that clan that were unable to awaken the sharingan yet they were able to compete with the likes of the senju.
Not every senju was on Tobirama's level in which you need a mangekyo sharingan to beat. There are senju's out there that can be stalemate a 3 tomoe user (Hashirama and Madara's dad) and others that stalemate Uchihas without the sharingan.




1. Incarnates have nothing to do with this thread you idiot.
You don't know how many incarnates there's been and they serve no purpose to any of your points whatsoever.

Senju were canonically superior no matter how many times you repeat what I say.

"Stupid numbers" it's all speculation as we weren't given exact odds.

Uncommon>1 wood kkg user

That makes the Senju greater without wood kkg, regardless because without a load of members of the Uchiha having sharingan, they would get whooped as the Senju didn't have wood style bar Hashi.

Then why are you speaking about incarnates, half-wit? Then how did it get brought up? There have been plenty as stated by BZ which helps my argument.

It's very simple. The Uchiha stalemate or lose slightly WITH sharingan. What happens when you take it away?

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

>Calls me a Senju fapboy
>Has 'Uchiha' in his username

Senju were canonically superior no matter how many times you repeat what I say.

Uchihas are canonically equal to Senjus, idiot.

"Stupid numbers" it's all speculation you fool as we weren't given exact odds.

Uncommon>1 wood kkg user

Uchiha who's kkg could've been anywhere from every 1-5 or 1-50 clan members

^^These stupid numbers.
Again, I said Senjus are powerful without them.

That makes the Senju greater without wood kkg, regardless because without a load of members of the Uchiha having sharingan, they would get whooped as the Senju didn't have wood style bar Hashi.

Read the Page I posted dumbass. I'm not gonna repeat myself.

Then why are you speaking about incarnates, half-wit? Then how did it get brought up? There have been plenty as stated by BZ which helps my argument.

I made no mention of incarnates you dense clown. You're the one that brought it up. You have no argument dumbass. This s garbage I'm reading here.

It's very simple. The Uchiha stalemate or lose slightly WITH sharingan. What happens when you take it away?

Not all Senjus are on the same level, how many times do I need to repeat myself? Huh?
Other senjus stalemate Uchihas with 3 tomoes and other Uchihas stalemate senjus without their eyes.
Izuna and Tobirama as kids were able to stalemate each other despite Izuna not awakening even a comma.
You're so stupid to see the point I'm trying to make because you're the only one arguing utter nonsense here. Even Anbuis understood my point and left because he agrees.
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Example

Butsuma, Tobirama, and Hashirama are all Senjus<---You follow?
Tobirama being a senju is strong enough to fight an MS user in battle, any Uchiha lower would lose in battle against him
Butsuma on the other hand is on par with Taijima Uchiha who only has 3 tomoe, any uchiha above that would slaughter him.

Am I gonna be a dumbass like you sand say...
"Oh well since Tobirama beat a MS user, all senjus are stronger than 3 tomoe sharingan users."<----No because Butsuma is a senju that cannot beat an MS user.

And that's the same exact logic I'm using with non sharingan holders with other senju users. They didn't need mokuton to be known to be a powerful clan, that just added to whatever they already have. Taijima Uchiha is the clan leader and he only had 3 tomoe who stalemated with Butsuma. There are other underlings under Taijima that didn't awaken the sharinagn yet yet they were still able to rival some senjus that are underlings of Butsuma.

My favorite character here is both Uchiha and senju so you can shut the hell up with that comment too.

 

[Pukkake Pokayo]

Uchihas are canonically equal to Senjus, idiot.


^^These stupid numbers.
Again, I said Senjus are powerful without them.


Read the Page I posted dumbass. I'm not gonna repeat myself.


I made no mention of incarnates you dense clown. You're the one that brought it up. You have no argument dumbass. This s garbage I'm reading here.

Not all Senjus are on the same level, how many times do I need to repeat myself? Huh?
Other senjus stalemate Uchihas with 3 tomoes and other Uchihas stalemate senjus without their eyes.
Izuna and Tobirama as kids were able to stalemate each other despite Izuna not awakening even a comma.
You're so stupid to see the point I'm trying to make because you're the only one arguing utter nonsense here. Even Anbuis understood my point and left because he agrees.
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Butsuma, Tobirama, and Hashirama are all Senjus<---You follow?
Tobirama being a senju is strong enough to fight an MS user in battle, any Uchiha lower would lose in battle against him
Butsuma on the other hand is on par with Taijima Uchiha who only has 3 tomoe, any uchiha above that would slaughter him.

Am I gonna be a dumbass like you sand say...
"Oh well since Tobirama beat a MS user, all senjus are stronger than 3 tomoe sharingan users."<----No because Butsuma is a senju that cannot beat an MS user.

And that's the same exact logic I'm using with non sharingan holders with other senju users. They didn't need mokuton to be known to be a powerful clan, that just added to whatever they already have. Taijima Uchiha is the clan leader and he only had 3 tomoe who stalemated with Butsuma. There are other underlings under Taijima that didn't awaken the sharinagn yet yet they were still able to rival some senjus that are underlings of Butsuma.

My favorite character here is both Uchiha and senju so you can shut the hell up with that comment too.

You're canonically full of shit :tea:

*Senjus are more powerful with or without kkg.

I did. You're still the dumbass.

If I was the one who brought it up I obviously did so for a reason. Re-read to understand.

Average Senju > average Uchiha
Top tier Senju > Top tier Uchiha

I didn't split it up into tiers before, baka.

You're just waffling now. I never went into specifics. See above. Senju always outclass the Uchiha overall. End of. :bdpf:

If I were you I'd go on a retarded rant comparing newborn Uchiha to Hashi for no reason but I'm not.

Your fav characters are Senju and Uchiha yet only Uchiha are mentioned in your username?

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[Rikudou Tobi]

Rambling? *directly correcting.

Lmfao y'know you're rustled when you tell someone to kill themselves because you know you're wrong.

You didn't correct anything. Funny thing is that you didn't prove me wrong in anything. Name one thing you proved me wrong in, please do tell.

Itachi wasn't an average Uchiha, you fool.

Average Senju > Average Uchiha

Itachi is an average Uchiha that awakened everything according to his power. Shishui is another average uchiha that would slaughter like Itachi. Hebi Sasuke during Madara's time would as a 16 year old would slaughter the whole clan yet he has a 3 tomoe.

Average Uchiha=Average Senju. None of them had the capability of killing off the other clan. Stupid.

Yes they did. With the same done to the Uchiha. (No Madz etc.)

It was an example for me to mock you and you just agreed that my impression of you is one of stupidity. You agreed you sound stupid.

.... :| rambling on stupid things again. No idea what you're talking about here too.

You still shout bias despite having an Uchiha themed profile :tea:

Says Uchiha are equal to Senjus. Call me biased off of an Uchiha with senju power on my profile.
It's funny how retarded you are. I've never seen a senju fapper as stupid as you are. You give them a bad name too.

 

[Pukkake Pokayo]

You didn't correct anything. Funny thing is that you didn't prove me wrong in anything. Name one thing you proved me wrong in, please do tell.



Itachi is an average Uchiha that awakened everything according to his power. Shishui is another average uchiha that would slaughter like Itachi. Hebi Sasuke during Madara's time would as a 16 year old would slaughter the whole clan yet he has a 3 tomoe.

Average Uchiha=Average Senju. None of them had the capability of killing off the other clan. Stupid.


.... :| rambling on stupid things again. No idea what you're talking about here too.

Says Uchiha are equal to Senjus. Call me biased off of an Uchiha with senju power on my profile.
It's funny how retarded you are. I've never seen a senju fapper as stupid as you are. You give them a bad name too.

I think if you re-read our posts until it gets through your thick skull, you will find that I did correct you. Everything btw and I'm backed by the manga in every way, shape & form.

Bold: I'm done. You're a joke. Sasuke was Oro & Indra enhanced btw.

Senju > Uchiha as they clearly had the edge, proven by every mention/reference.

No wonder you're too stupid to understand that too when you can't even grasp the Senju superiority. :th:

Says they're equal when Senju clearly had the edge = overhyping the Uchiha = underestimating the Senju = Bias. Your profile just supports this. It's funny because I don't even like the Senju. If you looked through my entire NB history you'd never see me even mentioning them besides saying how Hashi > Madara for the sake of other arguments whereas you based your entire online persona on an Uchiha :th:

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

I think if you re-read our posts until it gets through your thick skull, you will find that I did correct you. Everything btw and I'm backed by the manga in every way, shape & form.

Bold: I'm done. You're a joke. Sasuke was Oro & Indra enhanced btw.

There is no Indra enhanced and even with Orochimaru's curse seal he is still weaker than a mangekyo sharingan user. Dumbass

Senju > Uchiha as they clearly had the edge, proven by every mention/reference.

You stubborn shit. Uchiha=Senju

No wonder you're too stupid to understand that too when you can't even grasp the Senju superiority. :th:

Says they're equal when Senju clearly had the edge = overhyping the Uchiha = underestimating the Senju = Bias. Your profile just supports this. It's funny because I don't even like the Senju. If you looked through my entire NB history you'd never see me even mentioning them besides saying how Hashi > Madara for the sake of other arguments whereas you based your entire online persona on an Uchiha :th:

When an retard calls you biased yet you praise senjus for being one of the strongest clan in the whole narutoverse.
You're a dickrider. This whole page of you riding senjus nuts is enough history for me to see how much of a fapper you are.

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[Byron123]

People still care about these things even when the manga ended? Wow, either hardcore fans or no life.

 

[Pukkake Pokayo]

There is no Indra enhanced and even with Orochimaru's curse seal he is still weaker than a mangekyo sharingan user. Dumbass

You stubborn shit. Uchiha=Senju

When an retard calls you biased yet you praise senjus for being one of the strongest clan in the whole narutoverse.
You're a dickrider. This whole page of you riding senjus nuts is enough history for me to see how much of a fapper you are.

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Ofc Indra/Ashura affect you. Twit. I never said he wasn't you autistic freak. In fact you said he'd kill the clan when that could include MS users.

You pizza shit. Senju > Uchiha

bold: lmao. When a retard can't speak English. I'm a dickrider yet my profile isn't an online shrine dedicated to any character. :Sparks:

I'm just spreading the holy word of the manga :bdpf:

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

Ofc Indra/Ashura affect you. Twit. I never said he wasn't you autistic freak. In fact you said he'd kill the clan when that could include MS users.

You pizza shit. Senju > Uchiha
bold: lmao. When a retard can't speak English. I'm a dickrider yet my profile isn't an online shrine dedicated to any character. :Sparks:

I'm just spreading the holy word of the manga :bdpf:

Haha, cute. "pizza shit," you're such an illiterate f*ck.
I'm done trashing your pathetic ass, you have nothing and I already sent a report on you troll.

 

[Pukkake Pokayo]

Haha, cute. "pizza shit," you're such an illiterate f*ck.
I'm done trashing your pathetic ass, you have nothing and I already sent a report on you troll.

I was joking, herpa derp. If you wanna attempt to start thrashing. Be my guest. All you've done is cuss and spout biased bs that were pound for pound parried right back into your face.

You sent a report on me when you told me to kill myself? Mmmkay. Maybe I should report these rustled jimmies.

 

[KingHashirama]

It was dat Mokuton. and how many times are you gonna ignore the scan where it says when hired Uchiha other hired Senju? If Senju were so superior how was the average life span of a citizen 30 years old...Hashi's words.

Because Uchiha were the second strongest... why would you hire the third/fourth strongest, to take on the first strongest? That literally makes no god damn sense. If somebody hired the Senju, the Uchiha were the only logical option the opposition would hire.. since they were the second strongest.

The average lifespan during the warring states era, of the world was 30 years old. Not just the Senju clan.. lol. And what does Senju being superior have to do with the Average life span of that era being 30 years old, due to war.. and the deaths of many kids.

No they were close as for Hashirama hadn't gain the power to kill Madara then. It all changed when he obtained sagemode.

Hashirama actually did have the power to Kill Madara... rofl. He was stronger than Madara since they were both kids.. this is literally said by Madara Uchiha himself. Who acknowledged Hashirama as the strongest shinobi of his time. And do take note of the VOTE fight, where Madara needed to combine his Susanoo with Kurama, in order to make Hashirama go into Sage mode.

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

Because Uchiha were the second strongest... why would you hire the third/fourth strongest, to take on the first strongest? That literally makes no god damn sense. If somebody hired the Senju, the Uchiha were the only logical option the opposition would hire.. since they were the second strongest.

The average lifespan during the warring states era, of the world was 30 years old. Not just the Senju clan.. lol. And what does Senju being superior have to do with the Average life span of that era being 30 years old, due to war.. and the deaths of many kids.




Hashirama actually did have the power to Kill Madara... rofl. He was stronger than Madara since they were both kids.. this is literally said by Madara Uchiha himself. Who acknowledged Hashirama as the strongest shinobi of his time. And do take note of the VOTE fight, where Madara needed to combine his Susanoo with Kurama, in order to make Hashirama go into Sage mode.

Hashirama didn't have the power to kill Madara back then. When they were kids Hashirama was slightly stronger until Madara finally awakened his sharingan.