I agree but why do people make a big deal about Hyuuga being irrelvant in this discussion? I didnt put any emphasize about the HYuugas backstory in my OP. Their abilities shouldn't get mixed up with their relevancy. Maybe if they were stronger they woud be more relevant that's how I see it.
It's because the Hyuga abilities are still OP but only in the weaker scale. It's still irrelevant due to how much the Uchiha gets all the glory but here's why it's arguable
-It was stated that the gentle fist user can destroy anything that are made of chakra substance. (People brings up that jyuuken can destroy susanoo similar to how neji destroyed water prison or broke the web that are hard than steel ) However it all comes down to how much extent the Hyuga are proficient in tenketsu by inputting chakra which I think there's no point in arguing when the Susanoo has been showcase to be overwhelming in their visual prowes.
If the hyuga have strong chakra reserve like the Uzumaki or enough chakra quantity like the Kyuubi chakra the amount of chakra they have to destroy susanoo depending on which version then it's strong possibility.
- Every Hyuga posses strong chakra control and they can shut their eyes and use their byakugan to avoid being caught and if they're caught in genjutsu they have the ability to break out thanks to their tenketsu as long as they activate their byakugan to realize they're trapped.
They can break out Uchiha genjutsu but If it's itachi especially with tsukoymi then that's complete different story.
- The hyuga are the best clan in terms of CQC. Hyuga are taijutsu specialist so if the The uchiha were too close they would've get rekt.
Not to mention they have good maneuver thanks to their byakugan .
If every Hyuga great degree in accessing with their chakra like for instance when Kaguya uses her Godly vacuum air palm to destroy Sasuke PS, then they would've taken the world.
That's what I meant by powerscale, Kaguya has nearly unlimited chakra.
How irrelevant. Hyuuga fan once again blaming the plot because they are lesser than the Uchiha.
Wrong, in the beginning, they give of impression that the Uchiha were on the same tier with every clan before they were induced to plot in Part 2. MS are obviously a Plot device in order to build up sasuke character. Even the elite shinobi within the clans are still competent enough against MS user even though its arguable they would likely lose.
But once Kishi introduce the EMS, that's when he completely lost his touch with the other clan. So in the nutshell, The Uchiha are fodder compare to EMS Sasuke.
It doesn't take skills for sasuke to become op, all it takes is witness through life tragedy experience which plays huge role in the story in order to become stronger and it's all due to PLOT!
It's like the same thing with the recent filler arc we had in a "what if" scenario, both clans are reversed. This time the hyuga were bit op because of the plot that were given to the main antagonist. Hyuga Tobi who is Neji father uses dimension shifting technique which is almost similar to Obito Kamui.
If every Uchiha possessed the MS, then the clan would've taken over the world. If every Hyuuga were good they wouldn't be weaker than Hinata.
That's a bold statment. How do you know average hyuga are weaker than Hinata?? Are you implying that Hinata is a stronger candidate who could possibly surpass Hiashi based on her performance in the Last Movie??
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