Which one is the nicest? Rin, Hinata or Konan.

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Well it wasn't their problem/responsibility now, was it? The job was obviously Rins. We don't know how as it wasn't shown. "There are ninjas, therefore school isn't school" lel

Depends if Obito knows if the teacher told Rin to do it or not. If not. She's nicer but we don't know. It doesn't matter btw if someone likes Obito enough or not. If a senior gives you a job. You do it.
It's not Rin's problem either. Kakashi would have been equally as responsible if it was about responsibility. The bold are all hypothetical. In reality we don't see any of that. We just see the fact that Rin was happy to stay behind for Obito.

You're acting like Obito was a hated brat or something when he was the opposite. You're missing the point btw. The villagers live for each other. The Will of Fire and all that. No one despised Obito because he was a jin or anything.
"No one is as nice as Rin because she does things everyone does for their fellow shinobi" is all I'm seeing.
It's not about people despising him but about people taking him seriously. If everyone was like Rin then we'd see more options here for the thread wouldn't we? She stands out for a reason.

Stop being silly. You don't do the same things you do for friends as you do for strangers irl so yes. It does affect how kind her gestures really were. If you're a friend, you don't even think about helping, you just do it. "She went out of the way to become his friend"....they were on the same team. They had to become acquaintances and you could say that for any friend anyone has ever made. It takes times etc.
Again if it's just about being a friend why isn't HINATA doing these things for her friends??? It takes a special someone to do that stuff.

All the teams watch each other and train with each other and socialize with each other...
If it was just about being on the same team then everyone on a team would be best friends but they aren't.

She isn't ensuring her own survival for herself? Lol...you don't even have to be friends to want your team to not kill each other. If she brought Kakashi & Obito together, Madara wouldn't have twisted Obito so easily and Obito wouldn't have taken multiple TnJ attempts from Naruto to convert sides. It's just symbolism/ a cliffhanger. We didn't know at the time if Kakashi/Obito were going to sacrifice themselves or what. Another reason for the childlike appreances that I already explained.
You don't see her worry about that. It was a nice thing to do to bring them together. You don't see her worry about herself, it's only about her teammates...It is symbolism. It symbolizes how Rin is connecting Kakashi and Obito. If Madara hadn't intervened then things would have been a lot different. Madara tore them apart but the fond memories Obito and Kakashi had of Rin strengthened them to work together.

The most kind yet her kindness feats are on par with others.
What exactly do you need her to do to believe she's nicest? I've already told you what I need to see from Hinata to believe she's the nicest. Rin had limited manga time and yet all of her scenes were filled with niceness.

There are these things called inner monologues that help us understand characters and their personalities, motives etc. Hinata doesn't have a bad bone in her body making her more innocent kind than Rin. Obito was probably kinder than Rin, going out if the way to help the elderly etc making himself late and he still got turned. You said it yourself. She's on everyones good side. She only told Kiba and everyone else to aspire to be hokage a.k.a the best version of themselves possible. She helped 5 nations to their feet.
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Helped 5 nations to their feet? What a lie. She's on everyone's good side because she can't handle being on their bad. Her need to please comes from a place of insecurity. It reminds me of when she offered to let Naruto cheat off her during the Chunin Exams. She did something that would normally be against her morals to be nice. Her own identity gets brushed aside to please others. Naruto had to explain to her why that wasn't a good idea. So a good deal, I won't say all because she's had her good moments, of her niceness does come from weakness.

Shino getting ignored was mainly comical relief and you only got that excuse because I had just mentioned that Hinata was pretty much the only one/first one to acknowledge him in these moments. Kiba. Comic relief. He's actually pretty high in the characters left alive in the series. He's in a lot of top 10's. Now you're still lying about Hinata ignoring Shino because I reminded you of Shinos catchphrase -.-
So because they're comic relief they don't matter? Hinata was not a good friend to them bottom line so how can she be the nicest? She's only nice to Naruto and her family. What Shino catchphrase? I have yet to see you give me good examples of Hinata being nice to people outside of Naruto. What has she done for Shino, Kiba, for Sakura?


What a stupid debate to be having
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It takes two to tango. And pretty sure you started the debate did you not? Lol
 
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It's not Rin's problem either. Kakashi would have been equally as responsible if it was about responsibility. The bold are all hypothetical. In reality we don't see any of that. We just see the fact that Rin was happy to stay behind for Obito.


It's not about people despising him but about people taking him seriously. If everyone was like Rin then we'd see more options here for the thread wouldn't we? She stands out for a reason.


Again if it's just about being a friend why isn't HINATA doing these things for her friends??? It takes a special someone to do that stuff.


If it was just about being on the same team then everyone on a team would be best friends but they aren't.


You don't see her worry about that. It was a nice thing to do to bring them together. You don't see her worry about herself, it's only about her teammates...It is symbolism. It symbolizes how Rin is connecting Kakashi and Obito. If Madara hadn't intervened then things would have been a lot different. Madara tore them apart but the fond memories Obito and Kakashi had of Rin strengthened them to work together.


What exactly do you need her to do to believe she's nicest? I've already told you what I need to see from Hinata to believe she's the nicest. Rin had limited manga time and yet all of her scenes were filled with niceness.


Helped 5 nations to their feet? What a lie. She's on everyone's good side because she can't handle being on their bad. Her need to please comes from a place of insecurity. It reminds me of when she offered to let Naruto cheat off her during the Chunin Exams. She did something that would normally be against her morals to be nice. Her own identity gets brushed aside to please others. Naruto had to explain to her why that wasn't a good idea. So a good deal, I won't say all because she's had her good moments, of her niceness does come from weakness.


So because they're comic relief they don't matter? Hinata was not a good friend to them bottom line so how can she be the nicest? She's only nice to Naruto and her family. What Shino catchphrase? I have yet to see you give me good examples of Hinata being nice to people outside of Naruto. What has she done for Shino, Kiba, for Sakura?



It takes two to tango. And pretty sure you started the debate did you not? Lol

It clearly was Rins responsibility in the end as she was the one doing it, derp. It was hers as a friend anyway. Teachers always ask the best friend to give their bestie work/important notes if they're out sick. Speculation is pointless anyway. Bottom line. However it came about. That's what friends are foooooor~ :p

Lame point as Konan wasn't 'nice' at all. Obito is an Uchiha, ffs.

Hmmm why didn't Hinata give anyone their papers? :wat: OH RIGHT, BECAUSE EVERYONE ALREADY HAD THEM.

Everyone on teams ARE best friends. With the exception of the odd rivalry.

Why would she worry about herself? She's not in any drama and the medic ninja is usually in the back so as long as everyone else is okay, she is. You're absolutely full of shit. If Rin was so great, Obito would've come running back to Kakashi asap. I already explained the symbolism and I'm backed by the manga. We thought Kakashi and Obito were going to join Rin when it was actually just Obito. Proof is them chilling after.

Hmm what do I need to believe Rin is the nicest...how about some nice gestures that actually make her stand out?

She did help Naruto & the army to their feet after her own cousin was killed. Hinata is actually Hinadara apparently now.
>Says all that she cares about is Naruto.
>Says she can't handle hate from others.
Make up your mind please.

Because they're comic relief, they're emphasised a stupid amount, it's not a true representation. Never seen any comic relief before? As I said if you watch those moments back. Hinata is the first one to suggest to Shino & Kiba how to sort themselves out while they're sitting there all blue in typical over-exaggerated anime fashion. Irl we don't actually get big black lines above our heads with a blue black background while we stare at the ground as we're feeling down, y'know. Sorry if you're shocked to hear that.

Shino's catchphrase/gimic/comedy relief act bit. Whatever you want to call it. "No one notices me" or w/e tf it is. You just mentioned Hinata being nice earlier multiple tes in your own post.
XD #Hypocrite

It takes two to tango and apparently Rin immediately solves any tangoing. Dat Rin magic. I made a point in the beginning. Didn't expect pages of stupidity. Rin is a love wizard confirmed though so it's all G.

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It clearly was Rins responsibility in the end as she was the one doing it, derp. It was hers as a friend anyway. Teachers always ask the best friend to give their bestie work/important notes if they're out sick. Speculation is pointless anyway. Bottom line. However it came about. That's what friends are foooooor~ :p

Lame point as Konan wasn't 'nice' at all. Obito is an Uchiha, ffs.
She had no responsibility. No one is forcing her to do these things. She just does them because she wants to. Why do you keep mentioning a teacher? There was no panel of a teacher forcing Rin to do this stuff.

I agree Konan isn't that nice. So it proves my point that they're aren't very many people like Rin and Hinata. Not everyone is as nice as they are.

Hmmm why didn't Hinata give anyone their papers? :wat: OH RIGHT, BECAUSE EVERYONE ALREADY HAD THEM.
So you can't give me a good example then? Gotcha. That's Rin's example. There are plenty of other ways of being nice and Hinata did not do them.

Everyone on teams ARE best friends. With the exception of the odd rivalry.
The rivals are what I'm talking about. Not everyone acts like a best friend. You have to be nice and friendly to get to that good place.

Why would she worry about herself? She's not in any drama and the medic ninja is usually in the back so as long as everyone else is okay, she is. You're absolutely full of shit. If Rin was so great, Obito would've come running back to Kakashi asap. I already explained the symbolism and I'm backed by the manga. We thought Kakashi and Obito were going to join Rin when it was actually just Obito. Proof is them chilling after.
Exactly. She's not concerned about her well being but is thinking about the well being of her friends. I'm backed by the manga too. That panel says all. Insulting me doesn't change anything.
Obito had Madara influencing him. It's Madara's fault Obito was like that. Are you talking about Obito being the only one to die and not Kakashi? Kakashi had business to take care of.
Hmm what do I need to believe Rin is the nicest...how about some nice gestures that actually make her stand out?
I gave you plenty of examples. You refuse to accept them.

She did help Naruto & the army to their feet after her own cousin was killed. Hinata is actually Hinadara apparently now.
>Says all that she cares about is Naruto.
>Says she can't handle hate from others.
Make up your mind please.
I guess you didn't understand my argument. It's both. She can't handle hate from even Naruto. That's why it takes her so long to confess her true feelings. All she cares about is Naruto because she doesn't show that same level of care for anyone else besides her family.

Because they're comic relief, they're emphasised a stupid amount, it's not a true representation. Never seen any comic relief before? As I said if you watch those moments back. Hinata is the first one to suggest to Shino & Kiba how to sort themselves out while they're sitting there all blue in typical over-exaggerated anime fashion. Irl we don't actually get big black lines above our heads with a blue black background while we stare at the ground as we're feeling down, y'know. Sorry if you're shocked to hear that.
They're still her teammates. Still no good examples I see. She has done nothing for them.

Shino's catchphrase/gimic/comedy relief act bit. Whatever you want to call it. "No one notices me" or w/e tf it is. You just mentioned Hinata being nice earlier multiple tes in your own post.
XD #Hypocrite
I never said she's not nice or hasn't had her moments. She's not the NICEST. Half of her moments are from weakness.

It takes two to tango and apparently Rin immediately solves any tangoing. Dat Rin magic. I made a point in the beginning. Didn't expect pages of stupidity. Rin is a love wizard confirmed though so it's all G.
You can't call it stupid when you wrote half of this debate. I'm not forcing you to respond to me.
 

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Yeah notice how she hopped on Obito's D. when she got denied by the playboy Kakashi?

Rin has some dignity and anyway was she shown to be fawning over Kakashi like Hinata to Naruto? She risked her life for the village something Hinata would never do unless, the village equalled Naruto-kun.
 

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Rin has some dignity and anyway was she shown to be fawning over Kakashi like Hinata to Naruto? She risked her life for the village something Hinata would never do unless, the village equalled Naruto-kun.

Hinata did it for the village against Pein. As usual you were snoozing.
 

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Rin.

Konan has a bad past and Hinata has been shy and introverted. Rin seemed pretty social and friendly.
 
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She had no responsibility. No one is forcing her to do these things. She just does them because she wants to. Why do you keep mentioning a teacher? There was no panel of a teacher forcing Rin to do this stuff.

I agree Konan isn't that nice. So it proves my point that they're aren't very many people like Rin and Hinata. Not everyone is as nice as they are.


So you can't give me a good example then? Gotcha. That's Rin's example. There are plenty of other ways of being nice and Hinata did not do them.


The rivals are what I'm talking about. Not everyone acts like a best friend. You have to be nice and friendly to get to that good place.


Exactly. She's not concerned about her well being but is thinking about the well being of her friends. I'm backed by the manga too. That panel says all. Insulting me doesn't change anything.
Obito had Madara influencing him. It's Madara's fault Obito was like that. Are you talking about Obito being the only one to die and not Kakashi? Kakashi had business to take care of.

I gave you plenty of examples. You refuse to accept them.


I guess you didn't understand my argument. It's both. She can't handle hate from even Naruto. That's why it takes her so long to confess her true feelings. All she cares about is Naruto because she doesn't show that same level of care for anyone else besides her family.


They're still her teammates. Still no good examples I see. She has done nothing for them.


I never said she's not nice or hasn't had her moments. She's not the NICEST. Half of her moments are from weakness.


You can't call it stupid when you wrote half of this debate. I'm not forcing you to respond to me.

Mah brain cells. She ended up with job. Therefore she ended up with the responsibility. Once again. We don't know HOW. We just know the class left at the same time and Kakashi looked over like "You're welcome. We're awesome." Indicating it was a team effort as he had knowledge of it. If it was an assembly/line-up with the whole class. More than likely everyone knew.

>Says Hinata is nice earlier and discusses her niceness.
>Conveniently forgets about it later when it suits that part of the debate.

If you're not friends, you're rivals. Either way you help each other grow and help them out. Out of support or just to get one up on them. E.g. sasuke & Naruto saving each other.

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Reincarnations of spirits that have been at war for hundreds of years saving each others LIVES. Meanwhile Rin bandages up a hand and she's the kindness Goddess.

I'm not insulting you. You were proper full of shit at that particular point. She doesn't HAVE to be concerned for herself if her teammates are safe. One of my first posts took the piss out of people voting for Rin. I said something sarcastic like "She doesn't want her teammates killing each other, therefore she is kind." Pathetic you'd stoop that low to present that as a feat tbh.

Madara's seal was broken by Kakashi's chidori in kamui land yet Obito stayed on the bad side.
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"Kakashi had business to take care of" lmao is that really what you're going with? Not that it matters as he still lived and my thoughts on the symbolism were proven to be more logical.

Plenty of examples. Lmfao. I have to acknowledge them to counter them as the miraculously outstanding feats you think they are. See above as to why not wanting your teammates (who aren't even your enemies) killing each other isn't worth mentioning.

I understand your contradictory bs perfectly. If there's one person she wouldn't like to be hated by it IS Naruto. Derp. As if Naruto was going to hate her for confessing her love for him. This paragraph though...**** me...

The next bit. You're actually acting retarded now. "No examples herpa derp" L2read&watch. They had their own episode in a cave in the war arc, ffs. They're her teammates and she treats them as such. For evidence, see, ooooh idk. Any interaction they have with each other. I write a bigass paragraph and you reply with 2 lines. Say it all, really. It's not her fault Shino is so quiet and gets lost in the bigger picture/social outings. As the next quietest character, she's always the one to notice first and comment on it.

You just said earlier there are no examples of her being nice. #Hypocrite. Once again, wtf has strength got to do with kindness? She's inherently too kind & gentle for her own good. We can tell from her actions and thoughts. Y'see gentleness is actually related to kindness. Unlike strength...

I did call it stupid & I can. Obviously not my points but the sheer fact there was so much bs from shit you're overhyping. We can each eat half a peanut and I could call you stupid because you're allergic and you could argue that you're not deathly allergic and we could still have a huge debate about if it was a bad idea or not. The very fact that debate happened is stupid. Same thing applies here.
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Oh and btw. The Last alone shits on your entire argument nearly as Hinata sacrificed herself AGAIN AND seemingly defied Naruto without an explanation.
 
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Whose the nicest really? Havent seen much from rin but that friendzone was savage.
 

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Mah brain cells. She ended up with job. Therefore she ended up with the responsibility. Once again. We don't know HOW. We just know the class left at the same time and Kakashi looked over like "You're welcome. We're awesome." Indicating it was a team effort as he had knowledge of it. If it was an assembly/line-up with the whole class. More than likely everyone knew.
Unless there's an extended version of this scene in the manga, the only panel that page I've seen is from ch 599...I didn't really see a your welcome look...just an exasperated sigh. Kakashi could have seen Rin get the papers but that does not mean he was part of it. I doubt he'd ever consider doing something like that. Everyone could have seen Rin get the papers. It doesn't mean it was their idea or the teacher's idea.

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>Says Hinata is nice earlier and discusses her niceness.
>Conveniently forgets about it later when it suits that part of the debate.
As I've mentioned before I need to see her doing nice things for people besides her love interest to believe she's the nicest. She is nice, not the NICEST. As I've repeated many times already.

If you're not friends, you're rivals. Either way you help each other grow and help them out. Out of support or just to get one up on them. E.g. sasuke & Naruto saving each other.

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They became friends eventually...but they weren't instantly nice to each other. You can get closer over time but being on a team is not the reason Rin acted so nice to Obito. She was nice to him even before they were on the same team. You see that in the panel I posted above.

Reincarnations of spirits that have been at war for hundreds of years saving each others LIVES. Meanwhile Rin bandages up a hand and she's the kindness Goddess.
It's not just the act itself but the way Rin did it and the context of the scene. She's shown taking care of him a lot. It's not just a quick bandage job but a kind act from a friend.

I'm not insulting you. You were proper full of shit at that particular point. She doesn't HAVE to be concerned for herself if her teammates are safe. One of my first posts took the piss out of people voting for Rin. I said something sarcastic like "She doesn't want her teammates killing each other, therefore she is kind." Pathetic you'd stoop that low to present that as a feat tbh.
Stoop that low? Isn't that a big dramatic? lol Don't act like that's the only reason she's kind. Rin has actually had two instances that I've seen from the manga where she tells them to stop fighting. The first one might fall into the category of not wanting her friends to kill each other. However I put that panel of Rin holding her friends hands as a nice feat because a mean person would not try to help them in that way. She's bonding with both of them and connecting them through her. The way she does it is very kind. See answer below for elaboration on Rin's personality.

Madara's seal was broken by Kakashi's chidori in kamui land yet Obito stayed on the bad side.
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It's still Madara's fault for turning Obito into the person he became. Turning completely good after being bad for so long isn't that easy. I never expected Obito to change that easily...But anyway my main point is that Rin has that type of personality to make people happy and help people get along. She is always full of positivity and happiness. So another point I'll add is that she just has a friendly exterior. She has that type of personality that you'd easily gravitate to, a personality that instantly makes you feel better. So her aura that she has also adds to why I see her as the nicest.

"Kakashi had business to take care of" lmao is that really what you're going with? Not that it matters as he still lived and my thoughts on the symbolism were proven to be more logical.
I don't really see your point. Kakashi didn't have to die to show that his team was reunited and happy again. Not reunited in a physical way but in a mental, spiritual way. Kakashi had to be Hokage. Obito even told him that he needed to do that. Tell that to Kishi who drew a panel of Rin brining Obito and Kakashi together as kids and then another panel of them as adults coming together with thoughts of Rin on their minds. She had a great influence on their team, bad circumstances aside.

Plenty of examples. Lmfao. I have to acknowledge them to counter them as the miraculously outstanding feats you think they are. See above as to why not wanting your teammates (who aren't even your enemies) killing each other isn't worth mentioning.
Listen if she had only done one of those nice acts and that alone then yes that would not make her the nicest. But the fact that she has done so many in so little manga panels shows a lot. She's always shown as a nice individual and when she does something nice you can tell she is really genuine about it. Her nice feats divided by her screen time add up, and she tops it off with one of the nicest acts she can do which is sacrifice herself for the sake of the village. I'm not saying one of her acts alone are outstanding but they certainty are special enough to show her kind, happy personality. It's clear she does things like that all the time.

The next bit. You're actually acting retarded now. "No examples herpa derp" L2read&watch. They had their own episode in a cave in the war arc, ffs. They're her teammates and she treats them as such. For evidence, see, ooooh idk. Any interaction they have with each other. I write a bigass paragraph and you reply with 2 lines. Say it all, really. It's not her fault Shino is so quiet and gets lost in the bigger picture/social outings. As the next quietest character, she's always the one to notice first and comment on it.
You mean that filler episode?? :th: Seeing as how you're not satisfied with simple nice acts, I'm waiting for you to give me these examples of hype worthy niceness that Hinata does with her friends. So noticing someone is considered a valid example for being really nice but Rin taking care of Obito (a person who is not her love interest), keeping an eye out for him and supporting his dream isn't? That's the part that gets me....It's short because that's all want to say. I've said my main points already. But since you keep misunderstanding me I guess I'll try and make myself more clear. Rin is the nicest to me because she actively does nice things for others. She is always positive and has an inviting personality. What separates Rin from Hinata is the fact that Rin is nice to everyone. Hinata's nice moments on the other hand revolve around Naruto. I can't consider her the nicest when she has not proven that she'd be willing to do the things she did for Naruto for other people. I keep bringing up Shino, Kiba and Sakura because these are supposed to be her main friends. However the bond with these three people is lacking from her end. I'm not saying Shino or Kiba upheld their end but if it were Rin she'd do nice things for them no matter what. We don't see Hinata take any action to deepen the bond that they have. They seem pretty nonexistent to her now that she's with Naruto. So for these reasons Rin is the nicest.

You just said earlier there are no examples of her being nice. #Hypocrite. Once again, wtf has strength got to do with kindness? She's inherently too kind & gentle for her own good. We can tell from her actions and thoughts. Y'see gentleness is actually related to kindness. Unlike strength...

---(grouping these two things together since they're similar)-----

I understand your contradictory bs perfectly. If there's one person she wouldn't like to be hated by it IS Naruto. Derp. As if Naruto was going to hate her for confessing her love for him. This paragraph though...**** me...
No good examples of her being nice to Shino, KIba and Sakura. You say my examples of Rin being nice are bad yet I don't see Hinata having anything close to Rin's examples with her own friends. You do need a certain amount of strength to do nice things for others. If this thread was about who is the most gentle Hinata would win but it's about who is the nicest. You need to actually do things for other people. Rin has actively done more for her friends. For example although Hinata thought kind thoughts about Naruto when they were kids she never tried to help him or comfort him until she had that opportunity to give him advice. Naruto suffered so much during this childhood. He could have really used Hinata as a friend. I'm don't mean to hate on shy people...I used to be shy as well but Rin has that strength to do good things that takes her over the edge.

Yes Naruto wouldn't have hated her (probably should have chosen my words more carefully. Reject is better)but that's a fear of Hinata's. The pain of rejection. She's afraid to say the wrong thing in fear that it'll come across wrong or that she'll be hated for it. So a lot of her personality, not all, can be seen as her wanting to please for her own sake. This is especially noticeable in Hinata's genin days. Strength does play a part. Rin can be nice without worrying about the consequences while it takes Hinata time to get to that point.

I did call it stupid & I can. Obviously not my points but the sheer fact there was so much bs from shit you're overhyping. We can each eat half a peanut and I could call you stupid because you're allergic and you could argue that you're not deathly allergic and we could still have a huge debate about if it was a bad idea or not. The very fact that debate happened is stupid. Same thing applies here.
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Expect typos btw. I'm on a phone.
Oh and btw. The Last alone shits on your entire argument nearly as Hinata sacrificed herself AGAIN AND seemingly defied Naruto without an explanation.
From my perspective I see BS from downplaying. :sdo: I don't know what you want me to say? Debates like this happen all the time.

For Naruto and to save her sister Hanabi. Actually Sakura was the nicest person in The Last. She did so much for Hinata while Hinata has not done anything for her. Hinata even asked Sakura in confusion why Sakura was helping Hinata so much. She didn't understand that that was the type of thing you'd do for a friend. You support them.
 
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Rin. Hinata was just meek not nice. Rin actually seemed to go out of her way to be nice. Konan was a lot like Itachi. More of a pacifist whom, even though didn't care for killing, did so for the sake of Nagato, Yahiko, and Amegakure
 
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Unless there's an extended version of this scene in the manga, the only panel that page I've seen is from ch 599...I didn't really see a your welcome look...just an exasperated sigh. Kakashi could have seen Rin get the papers but that does not mean he was part of it. I doubt he'd ever consider doing something like that. Everyone could have seen Rin get the papers. It doesn't mean it was their idea or the teacher's idea.

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As I've mentioned before I need to see her doing nice things for people besides her love interest to believe she's the nicest. She is nice, not the NICEST. As I've repeated many times already.


They became friends eventually...but they weren't instantly nice to each other. You can get closer over time but being on a team is not the reason Rin acted so nice to Obito. She was nice to him even before they were on the same team. You see that in the panel I posted above.


It's not just the act itself but the way Rin did it and the context of the scene. She's shown taking care of him a lot. It's not just a quick bandage job but a kind act from a friend.


Stoop that low? Isn't that a big dramatic? lol Don't act like that's the only reason she's kind. Rin has actually had two instances that I've seen from the manga where she tells them to stop fighting. The first one might fall into the category of not wanting her friends to kill each other. However I put that panel of Rin holding her friends hands as a nice feat because a mean person would not try to help them in that way. She's bonding with both of them and connecting them through her. The way she does it is very kind. See answer below for elaboration on Rin's personality.


It's still Madara's fault for turning Obito into the person he became. Turning completely good after being bad for so long isn't that easy. I never expected Obito to change that easily...But anyway my main point is that Rin has that type of personality to make people happy and help people get along. She is always full of positivity and happiness. So another point I'll add is that she just has a friendly exterior. She has that type of personality that you'd easily gravitate to, a personality that instantly makes you feel better. So her aura that she has also adds to why I see her as the nicest.


I don't really see your point. Kakashi didn't have to die to show that his team was reunited and happy again. Not reunited in a physical way but in a mental, spiritual way. Kakashi had to be Hokage. Obito even told him that he needed to do that. Tell that to Kishi who drew a panel of Rin brining Obito and Kakashi together as kids and then another panel of them as adults coming together with thoughts of Rin on their minds. She had a great influence on their team, bad circumstances aside.


Listen if she had only done one of those nice acts and that alone then yes that would not make her the nicest. But the fact that she has done so many in so little manga panels shows a lot. She's always shown as a nice individual and when she does something nice you can tell she is really genuine about it. Her nice feats divided by her screen time add up, and she tops it off with one of the nicest acts she can do which is sacrifice herself for the sake of the village. I'm not saying one of her acts alone are outstanding but they certainty are special enough to show her kind, happy personality. It's clear she does things like that all the time.


You mean that filler episode?? :th: Seeing as how you're not satisfied with simple nice acts, I'm waiting for you to give me these examples of hype worthy niceness that Hinata does with her friends. So noticing someone is considered a valid example for being really nice but Rin taking care of Obito (a person who is not her love interest), keeping an eye out for him and supporting his dream isn't? That's the part that gets me....It's short because that's all want to say. I've said my main points already. But since you keep misunderstanding me I guess I'll try and make myself more clear. Rin is the nicest to me because she actively does nice things for others. She is always positive and has an inviting personality. What separates Rin from Hinata is the fact that Rin is nice to everyone. Hinata's nice moments on the other hand revolve around Naruto. I can't consider her the nicest when she has not proven that she'd be willing to do the things she did for Naruto for other people. I keep bringing up Shino, Kiba and Sakura because these are supposed to be her main friends. However the bond with these three people is lacking from her end. I'm not saying Shino or Kiba upheld their end but if it were Rin she'd do nice things for them no matter what. We don't see Hinata take any action to deepen the bond that they have. They seem pretty nonexistent to her now that she's with Naruto. So for these reasons Rin is the nicest.


No good examples of her being nice to Shino, KIba and Sakura. You say my examples of Rin being nice are bad yet I don't see Hinata having anything close to Rin's examples with her own friends. You do need a certain amount of strength to do nice things for others. If this thread was about who is the most gentle Hinata would win but it's about who is the nicest. You need to actually do things for other people. Rin has actively done more for her friends. For example although Hinata thought kind thoughts about Naruto when they were kids she never tried to help him or comfort him until she had that opportunity to give him advice. Naruto suffered so much during this childhood. He could have really used Hinata as a friend. I'm don't mean to hate on shy people...I used to be shy as well but Rin has that strength to do good things that takes her over the edge.

Yes Naruto wouldn't have hated her (probably should have chosen my words more carefully. Reject is better)but that's a fear of Hinata's. The pain of rejection. She's afraid to say the wrong thing in fear that it'll come across wrong or that she'll be hated for it. So a lot of her personality, not all, can be seen as her wanting to please for her own sake. This is especially noticeable in Hinata's genin days. Strength does play a part. Rin can be nice without worrying about the consequences while it takes Hinata time to get to that point.


From my perspective I see BS from downplaying. :sdo: I don't know what you want me to say? Debates like this happen all the time.

For Naruto and to save her sister Hanabi. Actually Sakura was the nicest person in The Last. She did so much for Hinata while Hinata has not done anything for her. Hinata even asked Sakura in confusion why Sakura was helping Hinata so much. She didn't understand that that was the type of thing you'd do for a friend. You support them.

Brah....we're going around in circles. Did Kakashi look surprised that Rin had the papers? No. He knew to look over to give Obito the "you **** up" look. They're rivals. Kakashi would've done it to rub it in. Kakashi could've even asked Rin to get them as he's the team leader when Minato is absent and he's always on point. Which would explain him looking back like "You're welcome." That's just the logical assumption BUT WE DON'T KNOW FOR SURE. So that's that part done.

You're missing your on point you were trying to make here. "Not everyone is friends. Why isn't Hinata doing that then." Everyone pretty much knows which team they're going to be on. Your panel proves it. The fact remains. Friends help each other out. Rivals also do to be snide. This is paragraph 3 response but I'm too lazy to edit btw. If you were talking about Obito & Kakashi btw. Bollocks. If the first line was about Rin and Obito. They were obviously friends before.

It is a quick bandage job and any medic would've done the same. You can't have your teammates lie to you or they could collapse and get you killed etc. Would Tsunade tolerate it? Sakura? No.

Omg. She tried to stop Obito & Kakashi fighting TWICE. She's an angel. You tend to get more physical & desperate the more you try to calm a feud.

You're missing the point entirely. Starting to think you're trolling but you're writing too much. You think the symbolism is Rin having an influence on the 2 boys but it's actually Kishi leaving a cliffhanger about who's going to join Rin. Cuz apparently in the afterlife you're all kids. Jk, obviously. The symbolism is that they appear to be young. Young = dead = Unity in the afterlife. because that was when they were all united last. As youths. Obito turned out to be the only one looking young after alongside Rin. Therefore. He was the one that passed on but AT THE TIME we didn't know.

As I've said. Rin isn't amaaaaazing because she's your best friend.

Filler + everyone of her teams moments so far are proof. I'm waiting for you to do the same for Rin. Hinata's feats in The Last alone surpass Rins. Once again. Silverjay logic: Who the **** does nice things for their friends? You'd have to be the nicest person in the World to do that! It's short because you couldn't counter it. I'm not misunderstanding. You're just overhyping Rin and I'm trying to bring you down to Earth. What in the hell do you think Rin could offer Shino & Kiba that Hinata couldn't?? Hinatas relationship with Sakura? See The Last. Shino isn't stupid enough to get hurt like Obito so idk what these imaginary nice opportunities are that Hinata is missing out on. Alk you should need from a friend is their company.

Hinata sacrificing herself twice suffice when it comes to outdoing Rin in the nice department. Being more sociable doesn't make you nicer. See psychopaths being manipulative.

>Says Hinata isn't strong/as kind
>Sacrifices herself twice & is so nice she raises 5 nations spirits who are mostly strangers.

You might have forgotten but Hinata fell in love with Naruto when he stood up for her vs bullies. Then what happened? A family member ushered the clan heir away from the demon fox? Notice that tiny restraint detail?

Rin never faced any consequences for being nice so idk wtf you're talking about. Closest and best feat close to that scenario was Hinata going off with Toneri.

I want you to acknowledge what's the norm between mates. Debates like this don't happen all the time. Look at the ****ing size of our debate about how ****ing nice anime girls are. Now look at how dead the forum is XD

Naruto was being a famous celeb and Hinata got somewhat discouraged as he was oblivious as usual. Sakura just told that to Hinata as she knew Naruto better for years. A girly chat about boys. That's what happened. Sakura was also doing it for Naruto. Hinata could've thought anything with her low self esteem like why aren't you with Naruto/why are you saying this when you were probably with him at one stage.
 

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Let's try and wrap this up shall we? lol

Brah....we're going around in circles. Did Kakashi look surprised that Rin had the papers? No. He knew to look over to give Obito the "you **** up" look. They're rivals. Kakashi would've done it to rub it in. Kakashi could've even asked Rin to get them as he's the team leader when Minato is absent and he's always on point. Which would explain him looking back like "You're welcome." That's just the logical assumption BUT WE DON'T KNOW FOR SURE. So that's that part done.
Yeah we're going in circles because it's a straightforward scene that you're trying to twist unnecessarily. You keep trying to give Kakashi or the teacher the credit because you don't want Rin to have it. Kakashi never said you're welcome lol It's not a hard scene to understand.

You're missing your on point you were trying to make here. "Not everyone is friends. Why isn't Hinata doing that then." Everyone pretty much knows which team they're going to be on. Your panel proves it. The fact remains. Friends help each other out. Rivals also do to be snide. This is paragraph 3 response but I'm too lazy to edit btw. If you were talking about Obito & Kakashi btw. Bollocks. If the first line was about Rin and Obito. They were obviously friends before.
It's a panel of the ninja academy entrance exams. The teams find out who they will be on AFTERWARD. My point is not everyone is instantly a friend on a team so thus it must take a nice person to get along with others. And with Rin's case she's super nice with others. So your logic is that she was nice to Obito and Kakashi because she was on their team. So I asked why isn't Hinata being super nice to her teammates? Actually my first line was about Sasuke and Naruto. They didn't get along very well.

It is a quick bandage job and any medic would've done the same. You can't have your teammates lie to you or they could collapse and get you killed etc. Would Tsunade tolerate it? Sakura? No.
It's not a quick bandage job because Rin has taken care of him multiple times. She's always watching over him and making sure he's okay. The fact that she noticed his injury and NO ONE else did or cared about it it shows a lot. It meant a great deal to Obito, that someone would care about him that way.

Omg. She tried to stop Obito & Kakashi fighting TWICE. She's an angel. You tend to get more physical & desperate the more you try to calm a feud.

You're missing the point entirely. Starting to think you're trolling but you're writing too much. You think the symbolism is Rin having an influence on the 2 boys but it's actually Kishi leaving a cliffhanger about who's going to join Rin. Cuz apparently in the afterlife you're all kids. Jk, obviously. The symbolism is that they appear to be young. Young = dead = Unity in the afterlife. because that was when they were all united last. As youths. Obito turned out to be the only one looking young after alongside Rin. Therefore. He was the one that passed on but AT THE TIME we didn't know.
Kakashi dying was a possibility but it wasn't necessary to show that their team had been touched by Rin. Kakashi even thanked her for her presence. It can be both. A cliffhanger and a symbol of what Rin has done for the team. I wasn't in the fandom at that time so I didn't have that time to wonder who would die. I was able to see more of that friendship that the three had instead. Do you hear yourself downplay these moments? Let me try your logic. Ex: Hinata noticing Shino....OMG SHE'S AN ANGEL. U_U

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As I've said. Rin isn't amaaaaazing because she's your best friend.
If my friend did those things for me, which she does, I'd think she was really amazing. You wouldn't? She treats everyone like a friend. She's always really friendly. She is someone you'd be grateful to have in your life.

Filler + everyone of her teams moments so far are proof. I'm waiting for you to do the same for Rin. Hinata's feats in The Last alone surpass Rins. Once again. Silverjay logic: Who the **** does nice things for their friends? You'd have to be the nicest person in the World to do that! It's short because you couldn't counter it. I'm not misunderstanding. You're just overhyping Rin and I'm trying to bring you down to Earth. What in the hell do you think Rin could offer Shino & Kiba that Hinata couldn't?? Hinatas relationship with Sakura? See The Last. Shino isn't stupid enough to get hurt like Obito so idk what these imaginary nice opportunities are that Hinata is missing out on. Alk you should need from a friend is their company.
You're seriously going to use filler as proof? lol that just shows that you have no moments to offer so you're forced to use filler. They have been plenty of fillers made showing Rin alive as well. So those are fair game? U_U...Not every friend is as nice as Rin. More like you're downplaying Rin every chance you get. Rin can actually do nice things for them. Talk to them. Give them encouragement. Give them presents. Throw parties for them. I saw The Last. It's more like Sakura being really nice to Hinata....Hinata could actually form a deep bond with them and help them out when they're unhappy. Their bond is nonexistant. You can get closer to your friends by doing nice things. All you need from a normal friend is company. Rin goes above and beyond for her friends. That's the point. She's really friendly....It's short because I can't counter it? What am I doing then? lol I also am trying to keep this convo from getting too long.

Hinata sacrificing herself twice suffice when it comes to outdoing Rin in the nice department. Being more sociable doesn't make you nicer. See psychopaths being manipulative.
Rin sacrificed herself too but you put that example down. If Rin was still alive I'm sure she wouldn't hesitate to sacrifice herself again if she had to. Hinata has been in the manga longer than she has. Doing it twice doesn't make her more special. Being more sociable allows the person to have more chances of being nicer. Rin is very open to people and makes friends easily.

>Says Hinata isn't strong/as kind
>Sacrifices herself twice & is so nice she raises 5 nations spirits who are mostly strangers.
See answer above.

You might have forgotten but Hinata fell in love with Naruto when he stood up for her vs bullies. Then what happened? A family member ushered the clan heir away from the demon fox? Notice that tiny restraint detail?
There is something called freewill. She watched Naruto suffer and didn't do anything about it....And really that excuse died after the first few chapters of Naruto. Everyone else talked to Naruto. They judged him because they thought he was annoying not because of the demon fox issue. Sakura for example never mentioned the demon fox issue. She just thought Naruto was annoying. Same with Sasuke. Hinata could have been his friend any time here.

Rin never faced any consequences for being nice so idk wtf you're talking about. Closest and best feat close to that scenario was Hinata going off with Toneri.
No I mean Hinata would have to act nice to avoid the consequences of not being nice. As in she's afraid of what would happen if she wasn't well liked. It's easier to be complacent then put yourself in an uncomfortable situation. The genin days are when this was more obvious. She gets stronger later on as she gets older so she is more able to do things like leave Naruto to go off with Toneri. But again I have yet to see her do something like that for her other friends. Her feats revolve around Naruto and her family.

I want you to acknowledge what's the norm between mates. Debates like this don't happen all the time. Look at the ****ing size of our debate about how ****ing nice anime girls are. Now look at how dead the forum is XD
It's just longer than usual because it's split into a bunch of different parts. It'd end sooner if it wasn't. I usually stop super long debates around here so it'll end soon. It should anyway. If it carries on longer I'll end it on my next post.

Naruto was being a famous celeb and Hinata got somewhat discouraged as he was oblivious as usual. Sakura just told that to Hinata as she knew Naruto better for years. A girly chat about boys. That's what happened. Sakura was also doing it for Naruto. Hinata could've thought anything with her low self esteem like why aren't you with Naruto/why are you saying this when you were probably with him at one stage.
Now you're downplaying Sakura's niceness lol When has Hinata ever done these nice things for Sakura? I repeat how can she be the nicest if she doesn't treat her friends as nice as Rin or even something like what Sakura has done for her here? "Why are you saying this when you were probably with him?" Anyone with eyes can tell she only wanted Sasuke. We've never seen Hinata ever think that. The people she was worried about taking Naruto away were Naruto's fans...especially the girl who Hinata thought gave him that scarf. If you're naturally that nice to people then it should be easy to understand why you should be nice to others. Sakura had to tell her that they should support each other.

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Rin was the nicest.

>Pure word

>20+ years

>For one guy she considers a friend
 

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walls of text i didnt read on rin?! :nosebleed::blush::flowers:flowers
 
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