So Sasuke was putting in work without the EMS??

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Its still a mangekyou move regardless of the studios error. Even obito used kamui in 3 tomoe sometimes. But when you really gotta push trust me the ms should be visible.
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Its still a mangekyou move regardless of the studios error. Even obito used kamui in 3 tomoe sometimes. But when you really gotta push trust me the ms should be visible.

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Need a clear quality of the movie.

When you think about Obito, the manga shows that he use 3 tomoe to teleport, but MS to snipe really. As if MS just strengthen the control the jutsu.

This would sort explains Madara using Susanoo without his eyes. He didn't create a perfect Susanoo when he was blind. He needed his MS to strength the control of his Susanoo ot create a perfect form.

Man. F it. So many plot-holes in all these powers.
 

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Sasuke can use PS with 3T

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It's more like he's using his Mangekyō Sharingan powers through his Rinnegan (much like the case with Madara).
 

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It's more like he's using his Mangekyō Sharingan powers through his Rinnegan (much like the case with Madara).
Maybe, but it was the same case in the movie.
 

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He's precognition increased later in the War arc after getting use to it when compare to his battle against Kabuto along with Itachi.

Against Madara
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So that straight tomoe whatever actually does something? good to know. :lol
 

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There was no reason to use ems. I mean it doesn't enhance precognition, does it?

:lol Of course it does. Sasuke went from not being able to keep up with V2 Ay to tracking a Juubi Jinchuriki and being praised by SM Madara plus forcing him to block, who beforehand blitzed SM Naruto.

Look at FTG's post, he has the scans.
 

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Sasuke can use PS with 3T

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The scan implies Rinnegan takes center stage. Nice find.
 
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It's more like he's using his Mangekyō Sharingan powers through his Rinnegan (much like the case with Madara).

Umm, I'm going with this? Rinnegan>>>EMS. Plus Madara etc. & he uses ama with that eye.

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Appears to be the same for genjutsu

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:lol Of course it does. Sasuke went from not being able to keep up with V2 Ay to tracking a Juubi Jinchuriki and being praised by SM Madara plus forcing him to block, who beforehand blitzed SM Naruto.

Look at FTG's post, he has the scans.

I dont think it matters because his Rinnegan is activated the whole time.
 

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Umm, I'm going with this? Rinnegan>>>EMS. Plus Madara etc. & he uses ama etc. With that eye.

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Another nice find. I mean we all know Rinnegan comes from Sharingan anyway.
 

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Jokule67 said:
I dont think it matters because his Rinnegan is activated the whole time.

Which has no relation to my post whatsoever, since all I did was refute 3T = EMS in precognition.
 

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Which has no relation to my post whatsoever, since all I did was refute 3T = EMS in precognition.

I'm saying his precignition is already there thru Rinnegan so I dont think MS was needed. I am talking to you not addressing your conversation with whomever else. Simply making a comment
 

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:lol Of course it does. Sasuke went from not being able to keep up with V2 Ay to tracking a Juubi Jinchuriki and being praised by SM Madara plus forcing him to block, who beforehand blitzed SM Naruto.

Look at FTG's post, he has the scans.
I thought sasuke reflexes were just that good. Anyways, Ehh. You think that extends to his rinnegan as well?
 

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So that straight tomoe whatever actually does something? good to know. :lol

I am guessing the who the point of the Eien no Mangekyô Sharingan is to increase your previous Sharingan powers such as Susanoo (when Sasuke used Perfect Susanoo) and increase the chakra of the user (which is why Sasuke kept using Sharingan powers and other element attacks through out the whole war, but he didn't show the slightest sign of being tired).

Maybe, but it was the same case in the movie.

It was still his Rinnegan, but you can't see it do to Sasuke's long hair.
 

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I'm saying his precignition is already there thru Rinnegan

That would make sense since he's used MS techniques with his Rinnegan, plus Genjutsu, which no other Rinnegan has demonstrated. Not sure about how he's using it, though, since his Rinnegan is always covered by his hair and the only times he uses it are for jutsus, like the ribcage and Ameno. He never demonstrated tracking with Rinnegan, but he should be able to.

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You think that extends to his rinnegan as well?

Most likely it does, since he's demonstrated everything EMS is capable of with his Rinnegan except for tracking, so he does probably retain its tracking ability. No reason why only that would be out of the loop.
 

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I am guessing the who the point of the Eien no Mangekyô Sharingan is to increase your previous Sharingan powers such as Susanoo (when Sasuke used Perfect Susanoo) and increase the chakra of the user (which is why Sasuke kept using Sharingan powers and other element attacks through out the whole war, but he didn't show the slightest sign of being tired).



It was still his Rinnegan, but you can't see it do to Sasuke's long hair.
I didn't deny that. But he still got a 3T in a eye, though he needed to change it to EMS when he wanted to use Kagutsuchi.
 

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Since they were using taijutsu, I really doubt activating EMS would be any useful.
 

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I am guessing the who the point of the Eien no Mangekyô Sharingan is to increase your previous Sharingan powers such as Susanoo (when Sasuke used Perfect Susanoo) and increase the chakra of the user (which is why Sasuke kept using Sharingan powers and other element attacks through out the whole war, but he didn't show the slightest sign of being tired).
Makes sense
Most likely it does, since he's demonstrated everything EMS is capable of with his Rinnegan except for tracking, so he does probably retain its tracking ability. No reason why only that would be out of the loop.
Yea, Most likely reason why sasuke didn't use ems against oni momoshiki.
 

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I didn't deny that. But he still got a 3T in a eye, though he needed to change it to EMS when he wanted to use Kagutsuchi.

The reason why he had to active his EMS to use Kagutsuchi was mainly because Sasuke uses Amaterasu in one eye and controls the flames in the other eye. It would be impossible to cast the flames and control them in the same eye It's like trying to use the offense Kamui (Kakashs') in the same eye as the defense Kamui (Obitos').

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The reason why he had to active his EMS to use Kagutsuchi was mainly because Sasuke uses Amaterasu in one eye and controls the flames in the other eye. It would be impossible to cast the flames and control them in the same eye It's like trying to use the offense Kamui (Kakashs') in the same eye as the defense Kamui (Obitos').

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That's what I'm thinking. EMS just strengthen the control of the jutsu.
 
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