Asuma VS 100 % Kisame (Kenjutsu only)

[BenjerminGaye]

Lol this guy. If I showed you that, you think you would just agree and take the L? Go look at your last post closly and you will see where you have conceded.

I didn't tho.

This is like the 3rd time you've started arguing something and then completely dropped it when you see yourself backed up, to only go back to your original statement before the argument started.

You take things (both manga and my statements) out of context.

Me- bring something up
you- argue it for like 5 posts
Me- start proving the point
you- it was not a relevant argument to begin with so it can't be used

You: bring somthing up, and cut out manga panels as you see fit
Me: brings the full manga panel ultimate showing your bullshit and in some cases it's irrelevance.

Argument gets dropped.
U start somthing new.

If you're refering to me switching from "taijutsu" to "reaction" its because I'm not you. I'm not going to change what he said or what happened to fit my argument.

Hidan said he's the slowest in taijutsu. Taijutsu is all encompassing meaning reactions are included. But I'm not going to say reactions specifically cuz that's not what he said.

All you did was take it out of context by bringing it to this thread. When you yourself forgot the original point in that thread.

And you do it all the time.

You say :

Hidan hit asuma's blindspot...

Even though the scan clearly shows asuma blocking. If it's from his blindspots how would he know to block? How would he even see it?

Or

Hidan was pushing kakashi back

Then how come he didn't land any hits? How come despite being "pushed back"(sarcasm) and having masks to help him he couldn't even get a drop of blood?


Or your OG argument

if kisame can react to six gate then hidan can react to first gate

Since when did hidan= kisame in reactions?
Since when did kisame react?


Like seriously. Do you even read the manga?

Then buddy, don't go balls deep into an argument to begin with. Lmfao I wasted too much time with a clown like you. Atleast now I know not to.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Source NF Databook collection thread.
Says Taijutsu + Ninjutsu. Which I'm assuming is the only one he's allowed here right?

It says taijutsu in the caption. Elemental recomposition isn't ninjutsu last I checked. Could be wrong.

 

[ToshiZO]

lol too bad I actually brought panels to back up like 90% of that. Including Kakashi being pushed back initially, never said he was being pushed back the entire time. While you were acting like the masks were the reason Kakashi got pushed back when they had absolutely nothing to do with it, as I already proved.

The Asuma blindspot argument was the same I had to hold your hand through panels to show you what I meant.

And the gates argument was complete nonsense by you to begin with bringing in a featless fanfic gates Kakashi, not to mention how many times I pointed out Hidan didn't even have to keep up fully with Kakashi, ALL he had to do was avoid getting decapitated by a kunai for however many seconds the featless kakashi with trash Chakra reserves can keep up the gates for. Remind me again why Kakashi never used gates in battle will you Benji?

 

[BenjerminGaye]

lol too bad I actually brought panels to back up like 90% of that.
Including Kakashi being pushed back initially, never said he was being pushed back the entire time. While you were acting like the masks were the reason Kakashi got pushed back when they had absolutely nothing to do with it, as I already proved.

The Asuma blindspot argument was the same I had to hold your hand through panels to show you what I meant.

And the gates argument was complete nonsense by you to begin with bringing in a featless fanfic gates Kakashi, not to mention how many times I pointed out Hidan didn't even have to keep up fully with Kakashi, ALL he had to do was avoid getting decapitated by a kunai for however many seconds the featless kakashi with trash Chakra reserves can keep up the gates for. Remind me again why Kakashi never used gates in battle will you Benji?

And here we go again.
Like I didn't just call him for butchering the manga.

I'm a call you jack the butcher from now on.

 

[ToshiZO]

And here we go again.
Like I didn't just call him for butchering the manga.

I'm a call you jack the butcher from now on.

haha alright then. Keep ignoring all the evidence thrown at you, atleast I'm hoping that's what you are doing because I seriously hope you don't believe you were actually countering my posts, the way you got all excited lead me to believe you did.

 

[Chaosmark101]

It says taijutsu in the caption. Elemental recomposition isn't ninjutsu last I checked. Could be wrong.

Seems like Nintai but I could be wrong too

 

[Curse Mark]

I know that, but that counts as ninjutsu though even though your OP says "reenact the part 1 battle with only kenjutsu" Is that allowed for Asuma?

Basically reenact the scenario from part 1, with only kenjutsu. Chakra can be used, but not ninjutsu. Asuma can use Chakra blades.

Samehada can absorb chakra.

Distance: 15 m

Some people on the base seem to think Kisame got wrecked in CQC?

I made it pretty clear with OP.

 

[Chaosmark101]

I made it pretty clear with OP.

So did you miss the databook quote I provided dude?

 

[Lord Tywin]

another retard.

Who uses Reddit typing style and never has anything relevant to say in any thread, aside from making dumb irrelevant jokes, and riding the coattails of others arguments, flexing through that and that alone. You must feel good about yourself lol.

First of all, what the fuck's a Reddit? I literally had to post in that manner to make your irrelevant ass understand, but considering you have an extra chromosome, it didn't do you any good.
And why should I bother with your garbage argument anyway? It's not like others members haven't already took a massive shit on your arguments, so there is no point for me to waste my time to entertain you.
Fuckboys these days smh

 

[BenjerminGaye]

haha alright then. Keep ignoring all the evidence thrown at you, atleast I'm hoping that's what you are doing because I seriously hope you don't believe you were actually countering my posts, the way you got all excited lead me to believe you did.

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I literally pointed out everything wrong with your argument.

Seems like Nintai but I could be wrong too

Fact of the matter is we both know what he was talking about. We didn't have to go into semantics

 

[Lord Tywin]

Highly underrating Hidan and the circumstances of the battle Asuma was i guess?

1-Not what happened
2-Kisame is a terrible matchup for cloaked fighters
3-That was barely a CQC encounter while all of Bee's strikes were useless as soon as he got close to samehada

Guess who else uses chakra streaming weapons?

 

[Curse Mark]

So did you miss the databook quote I provided dude?

Did you miss OP? Regardless of whether it's nintai or not. OP allowed the use of chakra, but not in the form of any ninjutsu besides chakra blades.

 

[ToshiZO]

First of all, what the fuck's a Reddit? I literally had to post in that manner to make your irrelevant ass understand, but considering you have an extra chromosome, it didn't do you any good.
And why should I bother with your garbage argument anyway? It's not like others members haven't already took a massive shit on your arguments, so there is no point for me to waste my time to entertain you.
Fuckboys these days smh

lmfao this only backs up my last statement.

Keep making dumbass one liners for likes, and then say "there is no point for me to waste my time"

Thats literally all I see you do in every thread.

 

[Chaosmark101]

Did you miss OP? Regardless of whether it's nintai or not. OP allowed the use of chakra, but not in the form of any ninjutsu besides chakra blades.

That's what I basically said before I was just making sure that was the only one allowed for Asuma

 

[Lord Tywin]

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You really are asking to get bodied. I'll post in a little bit.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

It's seriously tiring dealing with this guy'guy's fckery now.

 

[Draegod]

Kisame can only absorb? haha.....

Asuma... Matched

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and keep in mind 3 tomoe Kakashi was

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. So that means Asuma=Hidan=3 tomoe Kakashi in CQC. Asuma's reflexes are on par with an elite 3 tomoe user one can say. And he cannonly had no problem dodging all kisames attacks like childsplay.

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He just like Gai was also able to stopped a full powered swing with the heavy Sama' no diff. Which contributes to his strength and would suggest he is close to Base Gai in Strength. And based off feats he is faster and wouldn't have a problem disarming Kisame. And with no one to protect (Future wife) Kisame would never touch Asuma.

Kisame and Sama also have this myth that all chakra near them is useless.... lol No! The fact that Sama felled to absorb The chakra blades in cannon suggest if the attack is fast enough and at the last second he gets affected. Asuma has

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So if we use Manga facts he stands no chance against Instant Chakra blades popping up and slicing his head no diff. While Kisame would never ever land a blow nor match his speed. InB4 "he was faster then Bee", incorrect he was stationary most the fight with bee just absorbing and counter attacking. Him and bee did not engage in Hand to hand combat once. Bee also was playing with him the entire time until he whipped out V2 and raped. Bee is so far above Kisame it isnt even funny!

But ofc the Kisame wank is never ending with the most ridiculous followers defending him besides 1 or 2 users.

 

[Lord Tywin]

Let's look at Asuma's "Fascinating" feats throughout his appearances in the manga

Not being able to land a single hit on Hidan even with Shikamaru's assistance. In turn he got bodied by Hidan's thrown weapon

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The only thing he could do was to wait for Shikamaru to bind Hidan, then strike. As proven above he couldn't even land a single hit without Hidan being restrained. AND he had Shikamaru's help of shadows.
Being pressured by a casual slash from Kisame

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Oh what is this? Asuma about to be killed, but is saved by Kurenai's genjutsu

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And this is Kisame without any intel on Asuma, meaning no absorption from Samehada

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And then we have Kisame
dodging Bee's raiton pencil when it was literally next to his head

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Which is far faster than the kunai Asuma was FORCED to block against Hidan
Casually blocking B's normal swords

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shitted on KB in v1

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Bee even states that no one except raikage could react to his speed in v1 in his fight vs Sasuke
Kisame also being able to react to B's speed in v2, but couldn't surpass B's brute strength in the mode

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Tell me what made you stupid enough to even think about Asuma providing a discomfort to Kisame?

inb4 a truckload of bullshit

 

[Forbidden Technique]

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Lmao, real niggas already know who wins this.

 

[Braiyan]

If we're going to reenact the scenario from part 1, then the same way that Kisame did not know Asuma can stream chakra into his blades, Asuma would also have no knowledge that Samehada can absorb chakra. Which means things will probably play out like before, with Kisame getting a cheek wound from Asuma's Hien, then Kisame actually decides to absorb Asuma's attacks this time and use his brute strength to

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, instead of just slightly overpowering him. Kisame shreds him.