Asuma VS 100 % Kisame (Kenjutsu only)

[Lord Tywin]

Kisame over powers Asuma with one hand
>Says Kisame never overpowered Asuma
Kisame was about to kill Asuma before Kurenai stepped in
>Says Kisame was outmatched in cqc

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[EZQ]

Kisame over powers Asuma with one hand
>Says Kisame never overpowered Asuma
Kisame was about to kill Asuma before Kurenai stepped in
>Says Kisame was outmatched in cqc

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>Ignores that Kisame outperformed him on the strenght category but was out performed on the speed category

 

[NarutoX28]

Part 2 Power-Scaling at it's finest.

I find using Kisame's Part 1 feats is pointless. P2 Kisame is obviously on an entirely different level compared to P1 Kisame.

 

[EZQ]

Part 2 Power-Scaling at it's finest.

I find using Kisame's Part 1 feats is pointless. P2 Kisame is obviously on an entirely different level compared to P1 Kisame.

Based on what? P2 > P1 ?

Part 1 is just underrated. We see Kisame having trouble hiting Asuma and then he see him keeping up with Bee, and the right answer is p2 > p1? I don't think so. The right answer is Asuma is on his tier on CQC.

Stop underrating p1 just because it's p1. Zabuza takes a massive dump on Darui for example :bdpf:

 

[madvictory]

Kisame r8s Asuma.

 

[Curse Mark]

He was never out preformed. He for a fact last second stepped in front of Kurenai and blocked his would be blow (speed), held his ground despite his monster strength, and Since Kisame couldn't over power him blocking he opp't to pull back and shred asuma since he had the element of surprise. Kisame was out matched in that CQC so he then opp't to use ninjutsu which Kakashi then shat on.

Dude no. He was so much stronger with 1 hand than Asuma you literally see him push down the blade until it's touching Asuma's shoulder.

 

[Forbidden Technique]

Dude no. He was so much stronger with 1 hand than Asuma you literally see him push down the blade until it's touching Asuma's shoulder.

Draegod tends to put on his Ray Charles glasses when it comes to characters he doesn't like Lol.

Asuma got casually overpowered by Kisame's strength, and thus got his shoulder shredded. He then evaded Samehada twice, attempted to strike Kisame, but it was easily avoided. Only reason he managed to scratch Kisame's face, is because he activated his chakra blade at the very last second. By keeping Samehadas absorption active, this will never ever happen again. Simple manga comprehension, but Kisame tends to bring the ocean salt out of people.

 

[NarutoX28]

Based on what? P2 > P1 ?

Part 1 is just underrated. We see Kisame having trouble hiting Asuma and then he see him keeping up with Bee, and the right answer is p2 > p1? I don't think so. The right answer is Asuma is on his tier on CQC.

Based on the fact that he murked Bee and easily overpowered Base Gai who already has an unorthodox fighting style with greater reflexes than Asuma and in addition to this, has displayed the ability to use ninjutsu rather quickly as his seals are faster than Base Gai's strikes, point-blank. That's not even including Kisame's usage of Massive Suiton which were non-existent in Part 1.

What does Asuma have again? Piss poor Katon? Lack of skill that resulted in him losing to the slowest Akatsuki member? P2 Kisame would absolutely murk Asuma. It's not even worth debating with someone who will use low-end outdated feats to degrade Kisame.

Stop underrating p1 just because it's p1. Zabuza takes a massive dump on Darui for example :bdpf:

That's debatable. Darui has displayed proficient ninjutsu and high reflexes. He would give Zabuza a good fight.

 

[Curse Mark]

Really the Samehada extends it's handle and latches onto Asuma with it's teeth. It drains his chakra and Kisame crushes him.

 

[EZQ]

Based on the fact that he murked Bee

Kisame is a terrible matchup for Bee

and easily overpowered Base Gai who already has an unorthodox fighting style

And again, what logic are you using to say Base Gai >> Asuma when they both had trouble against the same opponent? (Kisame).

with greater reflexes than Asuma and in addition to this

Again downgrading Asuma with no evidence at all. Base Gai and Asuma are both tagged as reflexive and agile, and they both outspeeded Kisame in certain categories. That Gai managed to do so in p2 doesn't mean anything since you are the one with the burden to proof p2 >> p1

has displayed the ability to use ninjutsu rather quickly as his seals are faster than Base Gai's strikes, point-blank

Proof or evidence that in part 1 he didn't have the ability to use ninjutsu quickly?

That's not even including Kisame's usage of Massive Suiton which were non-existent in Part 1

And please enlighten me. How is that even relevant on arguing p2 > p1? If kisame didn't show what his suiton abilities were in part 1 then why do you bring them up here? We're comparing part 1 to part 2, and that's why we're talking about CQC since we have feats from both. Okay, now tell me, how do you reach this conclusion:

Asuma reacts to Kisame's striking speed with trouble
Gai also has trouble with Kisame's speed

What conclusion do i get? Asuma and Base Gai have around the same reaction speed

What conclusion do you get? "Kisame got stronger since in part 1 he was on par with Asuma while in part 2 he was on par with Gai"
And again, it's a failed logic since there's no reason to believe Base Gai > Asuma on that category since they were the same against the same oponent, and there's no evidence of Kisame getting stronger

What does Asuma have again? Piss poor Katon? Lack of skill that resulted in him losing to the slowest Akatsuki member? P2 Kisame would absolutely murk Asuma. It's not even worth debating with someone who will use low-end outdated feats to degrade Kisame.

Irrelevant

And the bold is just more of this BS speculation, since Asuma has already shown to be able to react to Kisame, lol.

That's debatable. Darui has displayed proficient ninjutsu and high reflexes. He would give Zabuza a good fight.

Darui gets turned into confetti

 

[Null Man]

Kisame negative difficulty.

 

[NarutoX28]

Kisame is a terrible matchup for Bee

And Samehada and Kisame both displayed the ability to easily counter Bee's speed. If he didn't have that required speed, then Bee's strikes would've easily bypassed Samehada and would've easily tagged Bee.

And again, what logic are you using to say Base Gai >> Asuma when they both had trouble against the same opponent? (Kisame).

Based on feats from the manga and even from what the Databook shows.

Again downgrading Asuma with no evidence at all. Base Gai and Asuma are both tagged as reflexive and agile, and they both outspeeded Kisame in certain categories. That Gai managed to do so in p2 doesn't mean anything since you are the one with the burden to proof p2 >> p1

Lol, come back to me when Base Gai loses to the slowest member of the Akatsuki despite having help from an experienced Jonin level ninja.

Base Gai could literally pressure War Arc Obito and Kisame literally cawk-blocked that same guy despite being chakra-deprived and his own reflexes were high enough to cast a Water Prison on Gai, point-blank.

Even then, Kisame was confident he could handle Team Hebi despite being aware of Hebi Sasuke taking down a Sannin. Asuma has no feats to suggest he can handle a team of highly skilled Jonin and a Sannin level opponent and Kisame himself is well aware of his capabilities as he conceded to being inferior to a Mokuton User and 2 Jinchuuriki, but not to Team Hebi.

Proof or evidence that in part 1 he didn't have the ability to use ninjutsu quickly?

He never displayed it. The only instant he did left Asuma unable to counter it.

In P2, however, Kisame utilized Water Prison instantaneously against multiple opponents, including Base Gai from point-blank range and his Water Clones were capable of capturing Jonin Ninja within their Prisons with relative ease. Can Asuma actually replicate this?

And please enlighten me. How is that even relevant on arguing p2 > p1? If kisame didn't show what his suiton abilities were in part 1 then why do you bring them up here?

Because Kisame's immense Suiton creates a massive disparity between P2 Kisame and P1 Kisame.

We're comparing part 1 to part 2, and that's why we're talking about CQC since we have feats from both. Okay, now tell me, how do you reach this conclusion:

Asuma reacts to Kisame's striking speed with trouble
Gai also has trouble with Kisame's speed

P1 Kisame was literally portrayed to struggle against P1 Kakashi who wasn't even a Kage Level opponent and even Jiraiya stated that Akatsuki constantly develop new skills and jutsu along the way. The Akatsuki aren't sitting on their ass doing nothing, they're literally developing their own abilities.

P2 Kisame, however, displayed the ability to react and overpower 2 Kage Level opponents, with 1 of the Kage level ninja accompanied by highly skilled Jonin level ninja, and even displayed the ability to force that Kage level ninja to open the 7th Gates to even counter his Massive Suiton and that was done by a Weakened Kisame.

Please do tell how P1 Kisame wasn't inferior to P2 Kisame?

What conclusion do i get? Asuma and Base Gai have around the same reaction speed

No they do not.

1. Asuma lost to the slowest of the Akatsuki despite having a Jonin Level Ninja's support.
2. Gai was actually respected and feared by the Akatsuki based on his Taijutsu prowess and even Kakashi's speed and reflexes weren't respected at such a level. Hell, Kakuzu believed that Hidan could actually defeat Asuma and his team of Jonin and only conceded to Hidan losing if he were careless.
3. Databook canonically places Gai as Asuma's superior in Speed and Taijutsu.
4. Asuma, as I stated before, gets murked by Hidan whereas Base Gai displays reflexes above KCM Naruto in CQC.

Again, how is Asuma even comparable to Gai in speed and reflexes?

What conclusion do you get? "Kisame got stronger since in part 1 he was on par with Asuma while in part 2 he was on par with Gai"
And again, it's a failed logic since there's no reason to believe Base Gai > Asuma on that category since they were the same against the same oponent, and there's no evidence of Kisame getting stronger

It's more like:

P1 Kisame fought on par w/ Asuma, but absolutely overpowered Base Gai in CQC. Manga absolutely supports the notion that Base Gai >> Asuma and thus, Asuma gets murked.

And the bold is just more of this BS speculation, since Asuma has already shown to be able to react to Kisame, lol.

What reason do we have to believe that P1 Kisame = P2 Kisame? You haven't provided any evidence to support that notion.

Darui gets turned into confetti

Well, you convinced me.

 

[ToshiZO]

Let's look at Asuma's "Fascinating" feats throughout his appearances in the manga

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And then we have Kisame
dodging Bee's raiton pencil when it was literally next to his head

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Which is far faster than the kunai Asuma was FORCED to block against Hidan
Casually blocking B's normal swords

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Tell me what made you stupid enough to even think about Asuma providing a discomfort to Kisame?

inb4 a truckload of bullshit

wow.

What was the point of showing me all the feats from the fight against Bee? Lol maybe those would do you some service, if maybe just maybe, Asuma and Kisame hadn't actually confronted each other in canon?

If you're showing me all these feats to prove to me Asuma kept up with a guy who did all that, then its served its purpose. Cause really that's all those feats offer "Asuma kept up with a man who kept up with Bee"

Secondly Asuma is nothing like Bee, Bee was a clear cut mismatch for Samehada. Proof of this is in the same panels you just posted.

shitted on KB in v1

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Bee even states that no one except raikage could react to his speed in v1 in his fight vs Sasuke
Kisame also being able to react to B's speed in v2, but couldn't surpass B's brute strength in the mode

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"the sword parried" , thats samehada doing its magic on a cloak, it hardly has anything to do with Kisame's own attack speed. This doesn't speak heavily on Kisame's CQC prowess, this is not even something that will be factored in against Asuma. His sword is not gonna turn into a chakra eating monster bigger than Kisame himself. So its pretty irrelevant.


Now moving on to Asuma vs Kisame which is what matters.

Lets analyze the feats shall we?

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is where they are all respectively standing.
-Asuma

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Kisame before he could strike Kurenai, indicating that Kisame's attack speed ain't all that much for Asuma.
-Regarding Asuma's injury he only recieved this due to protecting Kurenai, if anything it showed Asuma's superior speed for intercepting.
-Further proof of Kisame's attack speed not being all that much for Asuma is despite Kisame about to attack with Asuma not paying

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. Asuma casually

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all of Kisame's strikes
-Kisame then resorts to using

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Asuma got outdone by Hidan? That only speaks for Hidan's striking speed being above Kisame.


Now I can already predict what you're gonna say

1.Part 2 > Part 1.

Before you start making excuses like that Forbidden Techinique guy, on Kishi not planning far ahead or Kisame's part 2 portrayal not matching up.

The databook praised Asuma as Konoha's most skilled

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, this includes Kakashi and Gai so its no surprise why he was doing this. And this goes for anyone who says Kisame was fighting Gai so he should have no trouble with Asuma.....not really when Databook backs Asuma's portrayal against Kisame.


As for your second form of logic

2.Hidan outdid Asuma so he should not be in the league of Kisame? Wrong.

Asuma

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in a clash, Hidan

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had a similar clash.

It was only due to his

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and usage of the weapons where he outdid Asuma.

Guess what?

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against Kakashi so his style was handicapped from when he went against Asuma.

And before you go spitting that mask nonsense like that other fool Benjir


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So yes Hidan did pressure Kakashi despite Kakashi having all that time to prepare from that distance.

So we have Hidan

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in CQC with

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We all know Kakashi can tango with pretty much anyone in this series when it comes to pure CQC.

So this crap logic of Hidan with his full arsenal getting a drop of blood from Asuma with no intel, meaning Asuma << Kisame does not work for shit.

Give me a Hidan vs Kisame CQC battle any day with no intel and Hidan would shit on Kisame as well. Gets one drop of blood and its GG. Which

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to do, yet he couldn't against Hidan.

I can't believe we have people here who will ignore canon evidence in their face because they can't swallow the fact that someone like Asuma could even be mentioned in the same breath as Kisame, completely ignoring what this thread is even about.


@NarutoX28

dude are you serious? You're arguing as if this is a full power Kisame vs Asuma? No shit Asuma can't replicate feats Kisame can pull off and no shit Kisame's portrayal is greater as a whole. What are you even arguing?

When it comes to CQC Asuma's portrayal does not put him below Kisame one bit. That's Asuma's area of expertise, you forgot what this thread was about?

 

[Icelerate]

If we reenact the same scenario as in part one, it means Kisame doesn't have intel on Asuma's hien implying the

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. However, in Shippuden, the

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than it used to be so instead of Kisame getting a mere cut, he'll be decapitated instead.

 

[Lord Tywin]

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What was the point of showing me all the feats from the fight against Bee? Lol maybe those would do you some service, if maybe just maybe, Asuma and Kisame hadn't actually confronted each other in canon?

If you're showing me all these feats to prove to me Asuma kept up with a guy who did all that, then its served its purpose. Cause really that's all those feats offer "Asuma kept up with a man who kept up with Bee"

Secondly Asuma is nothing like Bee, Bee was a clear cut mismatch for Samehada. Proof of this is in the same panels you just posted.

We take into account the most recent feats from each character. Most recent feat from Asuma is his feats against his own team, and then his performance against Hidan. Which aren't anywhere close to what the most recent feats from Kisame shown.
:lol shut the fuck up with the bold. The only times Bee might have lost speed are when he came into close proximity of Samehada, but then we have this

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Bee's cloak wasn't getting absorbed at this moment, so you can throw the bullshit thought of Bee losing speed.

"the sword parried" , thats samehada doing its magic on a cloak, it hardly has anything to do with Kisame's own attack speed. This doesn't speak heavily on Kisame's CQC prowess, this is not even something that will be factored in against Asuma. His sword is not gonna turn into a chakra eating monster bigger than Kisame himself. So its pretty irrelevant.

Read, motherfucker. Since when is Samehada restricted here? Since when did Kisame ever mention anything about Bee's speed being impressive? (If you're dumb enough to count Zetsu Kisame :lol). Even in V2 Kisame never mentioned anything about not being able to handle Bee's speed, only mentioning not being able to ABSORB every bit of chakra.

Now moving on to Asuma vs Kisame which is what matters.

Lets analyze the feats shall we?

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is where they are all respectively standing.
-Asuma

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Kisame before he could strike Kurenai, indicating that Kisame's attack speed ain't all that much for Asuma.
-Regarding Asuma's injury he only recieved this due to protecting Kurenai, if anything it showed Asuma's superior speed for intercepting.
-Further proof of Kisame's attack speed not being all that much for Asuma is despite Kisame about to attack with Asuma not paying

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. Asuma casually

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all of Kisame's strikes
-Kisame then resorts to using

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.

So how is any of this garbage helping your argument?
1. Kisame had no intel on Asuma's chakra blades
2. Kisame casually turned his head and dodged Asuma's blade, only getting caught off guard by the chakra
And recent feats put Kisame's reactions feats far(x10) above Asuma's. Come to me when you can find a single feat from Asuma that matches "BASE" Bee, let alone V1 and V2.

Asuma got outdone by Hidan? That only speaks for Hidan's striking speed being above Kisame.

What. The. Fuck?

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The databook praised Asuma as Konoha's most skilled

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, this includes Kakashi and Gai so its no surprise why he was doing this. And this goes for anyone who says Kisame was fighting Gai so he should have no trouble with Asuma.....not really when Databook backs Asuma's portrayal against Kisame.

Databook also says Temari can blow away the univers, Hiruzen knows every single technique in Leaf, etc. Bring me some manga facts with "substantial" feats that puts Asuma above Gai and Kakashi in cqc. :lol and your point is further rendered to shit when you have both Asuma and Kakashi fighting Hidan, and Kakashi performing far better than Asuma.

As for your second form of logic

2.Hidan outdid Asuma so he should not be in the league of Kisame? Wrong.

Asuma

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in a clash, Hidan

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had a similar clash.

It was only due to his

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and usage of the weapons where he outdid Asuma.

Guess what?

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against Kakashi so his style was handicapped from when he went against Asuma.

God damn. You know what Hidan had that was far better than his rope? "Assistance" from Kakuzu's masks.

And before you go spitting that mask nonsense like that other fool Benjir


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So yes Hidan did pressure Kakashi despite Kakashi having all that time to prepare from that distance.

Yes because someone as intelligent as Kakashi wouldn't try to put some distance and move back when Hidan's attacking him, becaue he's not seeing Kakuzu ready to murder him few feets down. Hope you understand the sarcasm.

So we have Hidan

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in CQC with

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Yes because Kakashi is totally fresh after receiving some of Kakuzu's wind blast.

We all know Kakashi can tango with pretty much anyone in this series when it comes to pure CQC.

smh

So this crap logic of Hidan with his full arsenal getting a drop of blood from Asuma with no intel, meaning Asuma << Kisame does not work for shit.

Still waiting to "actually" see what makes Asuma>Kisame

Give me a Hidan vs Kisame CQC battle any day with no intel and Hidan would shit on Kisame as well. Gets one drop of blood and its GG. Which

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to do.
I can't believe we have people here who will ignore canon evidence in their face because they can't swallow the fact that someone like Asuma could even be mentioned in the same breath as Kisame, completely ignoring what this thread is even about.

Funny as shit.
Bring me some scans that puts Asuma anywhere near Base B, then bring further proof that Asuma is anywher near V1 Bee. Then once again, bring proof that Asuma is anywhere near V2 Bee, then we'll talk further. I've shown Kisame having no problem dealing with any version of B speed wise, and you're giving me this tired ass garbage.
The bold reeks of irony, since your ass states this hot garbage

That only speaks for Hidan's striking speed being above Kisame

Manga proof literally pimp slapped you in the face, and you even attempted to make a statement such as the bold?
Sit the fuck down, little man.

 

[NarutoX28]

@NarutoX28

dude are you serious? You're arguing as if this is a full power Kisame vs Asuma? No shit Asuma can't replicate feats Kisame can pull off and no shit Kisame's portrayal is greater as a whole. What are you even arguing?

When it comes to CQC Asuma's portrayal does not put him below Kisame one bit. That's Asuma's area of expertise, you forgot what this thread was about?

And the feats of Kisame overpowering Base Gai was a representation of speed. Ninjutsu only played a part in my argument, but of course, cherrypick what you like.

May I remind you that it was Asuma's expertise that resulted in his loss against the slowest member of the Akatsuki. Last time I checked, Kisame cannot be slower than the slowest member of the Akatsuki. Therefore, in speed and reflexes, Kisame >> Hidan >> Asuma. Stay salty.

 

[Lord Tywin]

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Why do people attempt to say something like this

I can't believe we have people here who will ignore canon evidence in their face

When previously saying shit like this?

That only speaks for Hidan's striking speed being above Kisame.

You're just making yourself more like an assclown

 

[Curse Mark]

Toshi has me ctfu. Says Asuma intercepted Kisame's swing so his attacks are slow.

:lmao

-It was a one handed swing
-Do you really think he was actually trying to kill Kurenai? ...With the bandages still on the sword??

 

[ToshiZO]

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We take into account the most recent feats from each character. Most recent feat from Asuma is his feats against his own team, and then his performance against Hidan. Which aren't anywhere close to what the most recent feats from Kisame shown.
:lol shut the fuck up with the bold. The only times Bee might have lost speed are when he came into close proximity of Samehada, but then we have this

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Bee's cloak wasn't getting absorbed at this moment, so you can throw the bullshit thought of Bee losing speed.



Read, motherfucker. Since when is Samehada restricted here? Since when did Kisame ever mention anything about Bee's speed being impressive? (If you're dumb enough to count Zetsu Kisame :lol). Even in V2 Kisame never mentioned anything about not being able to handle Bee's speed, only mentioning not being able to ABSORB every bit of chakra.

Lol.......................buddy are you even reading anymore? Or are you only listening to yourself talk?

1.Asuma is NOT Bee Samehada is not gonna be that big ass chakra eating monster.
2.lmfao maybe you should pay more attention to your own scans, "The Sword Parried" Do you understand what that means? It means Samehada is doing most the work.

This is not taking place against Asuma, so please gtfo here with this irrelevant trash.

So how is any of this garbage helping your argument?
1. Kisame had no intel on Asuma's chakra blades
2. Kisame casually turned his head and dodged Asuma's blade, only getting caught off guard by the chakra
And recent feats put Kisame's reactions feats far(x10) above Asuma's. Come to me when you can find a single feat from Asuma that matches "BASE" Bee, let alone V1 and V2.

Huh?

Did Asuma have intel on Kisame buddy? What does having intel have to do with Asuma blocking or dodging every single strike Kisame had to offer?

Great Job dancing around the points again and focusing on Bee, you're doing great.

Databook also says Temari can blow away the univers, Hiruzen knows every single technique in Leaf, etc. Bring me some manga facts with "substantial" feats that puts Asuma above Gai and Kakashi in cqc. :lol and your point is further rendered to shit when you have both Asuma and Kakashi fighting Hidan, and Kakashi performing far better than Asuma.

Hm? I'm only using the databook to back up the manga. You lot were crying Kisame kept up with Base Gai and what not and so the feats against Asuma make no sense.........

Lol bring me some "manga facts" buddy wtf do you think those panels on Asuma vs Kisame are?

God damn. You know what Hidan had that was far better than his rope? "Assistance" from Kakuzu's masks.

Ok point to me where the assistance from Kakuzu's mask's have to do with Hidan matching Kakashi in CQC, Kakashi even went on the offensive and couldn't land one blow on Hidan.

Yes because someone as intelligent as Kakashi wouldn't try to put some distance and move back when Hidan's attacking him, becaue he's not seeing Kakuzu ready to murder him few feets down. Hope you understand the sarcasm.

Yea and what is the excuse for the second time around?

Yes because Kakashi is totally fresh after receiving some of Kakuzu's wind blast.

Ofcourse this is the excuse right? Lol so Kakashi was sooo drained from a wind blast which we have no idea what it actually did to Kakashi. So now whats the excuse for the first encounter? In this one its the wind mask, in the first one its him trying to back away from Kakashi? Will it ever be Hidan matching Kakashi in CQC?

Funny as shit.
Bring me some scans that puts Asuma anywhere near Base B, then bring further proof that Asuma is anywher near V1 Bee. Then once again, bring proof that Asuma is anywhere near V2 Bee, then we'll talk further. I've shown Kisame having no problem dealing with any version of B speed wise, and you're giving me this tired ass garbage.
The bold reeks of irony, since your ass states this hot garbage

Except you keep acting like a mismatch against Bee means anything for his battle against Asuma.

Thats 1.
2. Asuma matched with Hidan who was on par with Kakashi.

How about you stop listening to yourself talk and actually look at whats going on in the manga. Your pathetic attempt of making Asuma look weak because he lost to Hidan ended up in the gutter.

Manga proof literally pimp slapped you in the face, and you even attempted to make a statement such as the bold?
Sit the fuck down, little man.

Lmfaooooo Are you referring to this?

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Why do people attempt to say something like this



When previously saying shit like this?


You're just making yourself more like an assclown

hahaha how about you do some research before you start calling people out.

Hidan was talking about his scythe which is attached to that long ass rope. Are you mental? Sheer attack speed from up close he was matching both Asuma and Kakashi in speed. The same Asuma who was making Kisame's attack speed look like childs play, dancing around it like it was no biggie.

So learn the context of whatever the **** you're calling people out on before getting your panties wet. You just ended up looking like a moron.

And the feats of Kisame overpowering Base Gai was a representation of speed. Ninjutsu only played a part in my argument, but of course, cherrypick what you like.

May I remind you that it was Asuma's expertise that resulted in his loss against the slowest member of the Akatsuki. Last time I checked, Kisame cannot be slower than the slowest member of the Akatsuki. Therefore, in speed and reflexes, Kisame >> Hidan >> Asuma. Stay salty.

Lmfao same thing applies to you.

Hidan was talking about his speed when he uses his long ass rope, since it has to travel a distance. Up in CQC he was matching

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Asuma was styling on Kisame's attack speed. Like I said, know the context.

Toshi has me ctfu. Says Asuma intercepted Kisame's swing so his attacks are slow.

:lmao

-It was a one handed swing
-Do you really think he was actually trying to kill Kurenai? ...With the bandages still on the sword??

Did you completely ignore the fact that Asuma dodged all his strikes after he was done protecting Kurenai as well?

And what's pointing out it was a one handed swing supposed to mean?? He took the same swing at a

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lool ffs, what are you people even saying anymore?

 

[Curse Mark]

.....1 handed swing obviously does not equal 2 handed in power.