Tsunade Versus Gokage Analysis

[Exaar]

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A scan of her healing Gaara and Onoki once is far from constantly restoring all 4 kages chakra throughout the battle.

 

[LuckyMan]

Hokage are always portrayed as the strongest of the Gokage in every generation. Kishi likes to do that.

She never restored Ay's chakra either, only when he was encased in Katsuyu when it was over. As has monstrous reserves
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[RedRobin]

Healing them doesn't mean she supplied them with chakra. That scan doesn't prove that she healed and supplied chakra as well

This makes zero sense.

A scan of her healing Gaara and Onoki once is far from constantly restoring all 4 kages chakra throughout the battle.

They had very little chakra. And she pretty much fully restored their reserves.

Next time we see the gokage now she is healing up Mei.

Its clear thats what she was doing before she entered the battle.

 

[deadp00l]

Did she not survive bisection? Did she not immediately die from being bisected? Please show me where she died from bisection. She survived bisection LOL Had she decided to not save the gokage she wouldnt have needed anyone else except Katsuyu to put her back together.

wtf

That means raikage also survived madara's attack because katsuyu and tsuande healed him

Is your definition of surviving an attack means some third party comes and heals you before you die?

Wasnt Hachibi tied down?

Tsunade is not hachibi unfortunately, her waist is far far thinner than hachibi horn.

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Creating her own technique
Creation her own medical system.

None of these is a feat of battle smart.

But raikage also created his own technique raiton armor version 2.

Deciding to use Mabui's technique to get to the battlefield against Madara while Ay sat there doing nothing lol.

Again no feat of intelligence relevant to battle. It's a no brainer when the enemy pulls out his trump card you use your own

Btw raikage wanted to join the battle LONG before it even occurred to tsunade, the edo tensei battles would have ended a lot quicker

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And I should also remind you that raikage was the one who had Mabui's technique prepared before hand anticipating this

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It's like never bothered to read anything not relevant to tsunade

 

[RedRobin]

Onoki is not debatable.

Never said otherwise.

Gaara mid-diffs. You have absolutely no proof Katsuyu's slime possesses the same properties of Gengetsu's mixture of water and oil, which are needed to prevent sand from sticking together. The only reason Mizukage's oil was oozing out was because it seeped through the sand by ''negating'' its properties due to the nature of the oil. Katsuyu oozing out of a complete shell of sand is not happening until you prove her slime and Gengetsu's mixture of water and oil share the same properties that can brake the sand particles apart, and just looking the same isn't going to cut it.

I have proved it though. Katsuyu cant be contained, not just DB hype, its simple logical. How do you contain something that is a liquid. How could you trap that? Plus Katsuyu can control her liquid form so she can moved through the space in Gaara's sand and leak out.

The slime property which was used to describe both techniques is shown to melt the sand and stop the sealing process.

There is more than enough evidence. You are looking for one word to seal the deal when there is more evidence which proves it otherwise.

Ay mid-diffs as well. Tsunade is not reacting to a blitz, and you seem to acknowledge this. She also either:

1. Gets her chest and organs blown away like Sasuke. Unless you try to imply she can instantly recover from that, Ay just rushes to her location and finishes her off.
2. Gets killed off right away. Aims for the head instead of the neck, or aims for the neck with a palm chop instead of a Lariat. Yeah, he doesn't do that, but I'm assuming manga is intel, and he saw Tsunade fighting with Susano'o swords lodged in her, so even he can figure out what it would take to bring her down. Tsunade, like any character in the manga, has shown no regeneration from brain injury or decapitation, meaning that she dies instantly.

Byakugo allows her to move even if she is not healed. It wont matter if her chest is blown open eventhough I stated the attack would be less damaging because of Tsunade's durability.

Ay is also never getting caught off guard by Tsunade playing possum. When did Madara get surprise-hit, by the way? You mean Wood Clone Madara? I hope you're not saying his reactions are anywhere near V1 or V2 Ay, or that Ay is getting caught off guard in any way knowing what Tsunade's fighting style is. Ay would also never go for a Liger Bomb, as that will achieve nothing.

No after the wood clone when she breaks the susano sword, Madara was surprised and only reacted after she had slammed the susano sword into his chakra structure.

 

[Gerkak]

This makes zero sense.

It makes sense healing jutsu was never stated to restore chakra, both can be used at the same time but unless you show scans that either state or otherwise suggest that tsunade was supplying chakra to all 4 kage then you have no point.

If you want to talk about sense you aren't making sense either, you said she supplied chakra to 4 kage yet you only showed onoki and gaara, since when does two become four? This is assuming I am to believe that tsunade was sharing chakra in the scan

 

[RedRobin]

wtf

That means raikage also survived madara's attack because katsuyu and tsuande healed him

Is your definition of surviving an attack means some third party comes and heals you before you die?

Tsunade was conscious and was able to do something about it while Ay was out cold and dead.

Katsuyu is part of Tsunade's power. Katsuyu uses Tsunade's power to heal.

Raikage was dead if Tsunade didnt want to heal him.

Tsunade is not hachibi unfortunately, her waist is far far thinner than hachibi horn.

The force of his attack is going to push her back, if she was tied to the floor sure he could do it.

Again no feat of intelligence relevant to battle. It's a no brainer when the enemy pulls out his trump card you use your own

Btw raikage wanted to join the battle LONG before it even occurred to tsunade, the edo tensei battles would have ended a lot quicker


And I should also remind you that raikage was the one who had Mabui's technique prepared before hand anticipating this

Again whose idea was it? Sure it was time to go to battle but how? Who came up with that? OH right Tsunade.

 

[RedRobin]

It makes sense healing jutsu was never stated to restore chakra, both can be used at the same time but unless you show scans that either state or otherwise suggest that tsunade was supplying chakra to all 4 kage then you have no point.

If you want to talk about sense you aren't making sense either, you said she supplied chakra to 4 kage yet you only showed onoki and gaara, since when does two become four? This is assuming I am to believe that tsunade was sharing chakra in the scan

Healing justu does that exactly, it restores stamina and everything, especially when there is no injury to be had, Mei didnt look injured at all. Simply tired which is why Tsunade restored her reserves.

LOL Take a hint I said Gokage. Why so technical? I am not going to list each one she supplied chakra to.

 

[Exaar]

This makes zero sense.

Healing restores chakra though healing the body, Which in turns restores the bodies stamina, Which in turn can be converted back into chakra.

She isn't actually giving them her own chakra, to restores theirs (like she did with onoki's jinton). Otherwise she would be empty restoring Gaara's alone since his base reserves are higher than tsunades (without Seal)

Next time we see the gokage now she is healing up Mei. .

She healed Mei during the fight with madara? I don't recall that.

The force of his attack is going to push her back, if she was tied to the floor sure he could do it.

Why would it push her back?.
It's a chop going in a downwards motion, It wouldn't knock her back but knock her to the ground.

Besides it's not a normal chop that relies on blunt force alone, It's Enhanced by raiton and we've already seen Raiton's ability to Cut and slice, Which raikage proved Via cutting off the 8tails horn. I don't see why he cannot cut her without the need of her being tied to the floor.

 

[RedRobin]

Healing restores chakra though healing the body, Which in turns restores the bodies stamina, Which in turn can be converted back into chakra.

She isn't actually giving them her own chakra, to restores theirs (like she did with onoki's jinton). Otherwise she would be empty restoring Gaara's alone since his base reserves are higher than tsunades (without Seal)

Its really all the same process espcially if you are just touching the back without focusing on one injury. Sakura powers up Darui's technique giving him chakra.

What do you mean? She has super high base reserve, she was in a coma a week(?) before the war started and she was able to accumulate all that chakra to do everything she did.

She healed Mei during the fight with madara? I don't recall that.

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Middle Bottom scan. Tsunade is touching Mei's back giving her chakra.

Why would it push her back?.
It's a chop going in a downwards motion, It wouldn't knock her back but knock her to the ground.

Besides it's not a normal chop that relies on blunt force alone, It's Enhanced by raiton and we've already seen Raiton's ability to Cut and slice, Which raikage proved Via cutting off the 8tails horn. I don't see why he cannot cut her without the need of her being tied to the floor.

Ay's striking speed can easily be blocked by Tsunade, she can physical react to that, if he is coming down like that then she

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The only time he can straight hit her would be a blunt hit blitz.

 

[Gerkak]

Healing justu does that exactly, it restores stamina and everything, especially when there is no injury to be had, Mei didnt look injured at all. Simply tired which is why Tsunade restored her reserves.

LOL Take a hint I said Gokage. Why so technical? I am not going to list each one she supplied chakra to.

How can she restore chakra she doesn't have? Unlike sakura tsunade did not store her chakra for 3 years she refills it in a day both ay and gaara have larger reserves then her, it isn't possible for tsunade to restore all that chakra

 

[RedRobin]

How can she restore chakra she doesn't have? Unlike sakura tsunade did not store her chakra for 3 years she refills it in a day both ay and gaara have larger reserves then her, it isn't possible for tsunade to restore all that chakra

She is a senju and uzumaki descendant. She creates way more chakra than Sakura ever could. Did you see how big that Jinton was? That was Tsunade.

Just look at what she did in the Madara fight. That was just a week of saving up chakra after she got out of the coma.

 

[Gerkak]

She is a senju and uzumaki descendant. She creates way more chakra than Sakura ever could. Did you see how big that Jinton was? That was Tsunade.

Just look at what she did in the Madara fight. That was just a week of saving up chakra after she got out of the coma.

Oh yeah forgot about the jinton, well going by that I can see what you mean.

But don't forget dan helped restore both her reserves and the byakugo one, I wonder how big his reserves are?

 

[RedRobin]

Oh yeah forgot about the jinton, well going by that I can see what you mean.

But don't forget dan helped restore both her reserves and the byakugo one, I wonder how big his reserves are?

I think he just gave her whatever he had left. That was right before Madara brought PS out again and he was in a hurry to get Naruto so the gokage couldnt have lasted long there and Tsunade didnt have much chakra when healing the gokage with Katsuyu.

 

[Gerkak]

I think he just gave her whatever he had left. That was right before Madara brought PS out again and he was in a hurry to get Naruto so the gokage couldnt have lasted long there and Tsunade didnt have much chakra when healing the gokage with Katsuyu.

Didn't madara say he wouldn't use it again? He seemed to have off paneled them with wood

 

[RedRobin]

Didn't madara say he wouldn't use it again? He seemed to have off paneled them with wood

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Viz makes it heavily seem like he brought it out again.

 

[Gerkak]

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Viz makes it heavily seem like he brought it out again.

Yup, seems like he brought it out again

 

[Exaar]

Its really all the same process espcially if you are just touching the back without focusing on one injury. Sakura powers up Darui's technique giving him chakra.

It's slightly different though.

Say tsunade Giving someone chakra like she did to power onoki's jinton. It's an equal exchange in chakra. Say for tsunade to restore a person from 0 to (databook level 4) stamina/chakra levels she must use that much chakra to do so, Meaning tsunade who scored a 4 in the databook would require a (4) worth of chakra to fully restore them and thus would be almost completely empty for doing so. (outside of using Yin seal chakra)

While it takes alot less chakra to simply heal the body to naturally restore a level (4) stamina than to actually give a 4 worth of chakra.

What do you mean? She has super high base reserve, she was in a coma a week(?) before the war started and she was able to accumulate all that chakra to do everything she did.

Tsunade scored a 4 in stamina, Gaara scored a 5.

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Middle Bottom scan..

Ahh i did indeed miss that part.

Ay's striking speed can easily be blocked by Tsunade, she can physical react to that, if he is coming down like that then she

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The only time he can straight hit her would be a blunt hit blitz.

That's a V1 attack.
besides, How can she block it? with her arms? they would get sliced to bits by such an attack, The only reason suigetsu blocked it was because raikage used blunt force, not the raiton chop he used on the 8tails.

Also why would his Bliz attack have to be blunt?, What exactly is stopping him from using the same attack or a similar he used against the 8tails in a blitz?.

He can easily set up for such an for "coming down like that", Knock he off balance with sheer speed and follow up with a downwards thrust or striking from her blind spot

 

[Pukkake Pokayo]

Ay speed Blitzes her.
Mei is long range fighter, no chance for Tsunade.
Gaara- lmao GG Tsunade
Ohnoki low diff? Ohnoki neg diff you mean.

What the **** is OP on. This.

Plus Mei has acidic hidden mist jutsu. Tsunade LITERALLY can't touch anyone apart from Raikage and even then, he's doing the touching. Iykwim :Sparks:

 

[RedRobin]

What the **** is OP on. This.

Plus Mei has acidic hidden mist jutsu. Tsunade LITERALLY can't touch anyone apart from Raikage and even then, he's doing the touching. Iykwim :Sparks:

Its called making a point and using evidence something You probably dont understand having never done it.