Tsunade Versus Gokage Analysis

[ToshiZO]

1. Again, not sure how its so hard to understand something simple.. if he has the ability to.. he can.. if he needs to.. he will. What happened to "real situation" ? lol.

2. Time to start actually looking up the techniques (specifically their range) before you go blindly make an idiot out of yourself, for trying to counter a factual statement.

3. In a battle you do not have a range, its not a UFC/MMA/Video Game fight, with ring outs. Shirukens have no chance of touching Onoki with the slow + short range (unless you have feats of Hiruzen throwing them at super speeds at extreme ranges). Enma is too slow.. hopefully you are trolling at this point..


"go back", never left. I make perfect sense here to, you are simply in a denial phase to see it. Get out of it, and then see it makes perfect sense.

Oh boy, remind me not to get involved with you regarding anything Tsunade related.

1.Ok? You said nothing here.....

2.lol time to stop pulling facts out of your ass like Tsunade jumping higher and faster than his elements.

3.@Bold
Lool I think I might sig this. This is getting ridiculous.

This is what a bit of range and strategy can do for you.

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You know what I'll make this easier for myself. Go ahead and post an argument for Tsunade, how is she gonna do anything to Onoki once he's in the air I wanna hear it.

 

[KingHashirama]

Nice argument...

2nd paragraph: You're a joke. Same title in the manga.

Then why the **** are you changing the topic XD Tsunade doesn't have access to the dog summon & hearing is unreliable af as excess noise & distractions can be made. Show me the hearing feat scan btw. Not that it matters.

you wanted an argument on your brain cells being killed, because don't know how to make a choice?

Then a joke I am to you.

But i never changed the topics.. lol. Have you been paying attention to the conversation at all? Sure sound can be made to distract, doesn't mean that she can't counter her via it. Go to where her and Orochimaru meet, and you'll find the feat there.

 

[KingHashirama]

Oh boy, remind me not to get involved with you regarding anything Tsunade related.

1.Ok? You said nothing here.....

2.lol time to stop pulling facts out of your ass like Tsunade jumping higher and faster than his elements.

3.@Bold
Lool I think I might sig this. This is getting ridiculous.

This is what a bit of range and strategy can do for you.

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You know what I'll make this easier for myself. Go ahead and post an argument for Tsunade, how is she gonna do anything to Onoki once he's in the air I wanna hear it.

Yet you still did, so doubt me reminding anything would help.

1. As well as you.

2. Out of my ass? Ok, then prove yourself. What is the range of Hiruzen's element attack? How fast is the attack, any faster than a normal water dragon attack?

3. Feel free to.

mhmm.. but Tsunade can't make a strategy am i right?


Once you make an argument on how anything from Hiruzen is touching Onoki with him being 200+ meters feet in air. Note, Tsunade jumping was only mentioned, because you claimed Hiruzen's attack can touch Onoki.

 

[ToshiZO]

Yet you still did, so doubt me reminding anything would help.

1. As well as you.

2. Out of my ass? Ok, then prove yourself. What is the range of Hiruzen's element attack? How fast is the attack, any faster than a normal water dragon attack?

3. Feel free to.

mhmm.. but Tsunade can't make a strategy am i right?


Once you make an argument on how anything from Hiruzen is touching Onoki with him being 200+ meters feet in air. Note, Tsunade jumping was only mentioned, because you claimed Hiruzen's attack can touch Onoki.

The range is easily more than 50 meters especially considering both the Sūsenju and Hiruzen's elements met each other, its safe to assume they would have kept going till they met their target. And the attacks fast enough for Hiruzen to first see which element is coming at him and then release to meet the elements halfway.

Tsunade can't make a strategy because she is a linear CQC fighter who has barely anything to use against Onoki. She can do one thing punch. Good luck fighting someone who isn't even gonna try and engage you in any CQC. She doesn't even have any method of bringing him down.

Hiruzen has countless jutsu at his disposal and the appropriate range to come up with a strategy and make the fight somewhat interesting.

And the last sentence I'm just gonna take that as a "you have no idea what you're talking about", which means we are done here.

 

[Beans2]

Tsunade loses against every single one of the Gokage. In fact I don't see her beating any kage, ever, at all, except maybe Old Hiruzen.

 

[KingHashirama]

The range is easily more than 50 meters especially considering both the Sūsenju and Hiruzen's elements met each other, its safe to assume they would have kept going till they met their target. And the attacks fast enough for Hiruzen to first see which element is coming at him and then release to meet the elements halfway.

Hiruzen's attack that got stopped were around 40 meters or so. Around the height of the pillars in the desert were Muu and etc were revived. Onoki's flying range goes from the bottom to the clouds, so if any of Hiruzens even get close to 100 meter (which none of them will), he simply flies up to 105 meters, making the attacks useless, similar to how Tsunade would be useless.

Tsunade can't make a strategy because she is a linear CQC fighter who has barely anything to use against Onoki. She can do one thing punch. Good luck fighting someone who isn't even gonna try and engage you in any CQC. She doesn't even have any method of bringing him down.

When can a linear fighter land a hit on an EMS user? Or was the EMS user just trash? Claiming Tsunade can't make a strategy despite her being in wars, despite Jiraiya claiming her to be better in combat than him and orochimaru.. is quite a naive statement, thats only filled with bias. She doesn't need to waste time bringing him down.

Hiruzen has countless jutsu at his disposal and the appropriate range to come up with a strategy and make the fight somewhat interesting.

And the last sentence I'm just gonna take that as a "you have no idea what you're talking about", which means we are done here.

I'm sure Hiruzen has jutsus that take care of Onoki.. the dude was the strongest Kage during both of his reigns.

Hmm for a guy who didn't have a legit argument in trying to discredit Tsunade..sure go ahead take it that way.

I never said I wanted an argument for that. Was just pointing out how stupid your arguments were.

You're a joke to far more than just me tbh if you think Tsunade can touch any of the kage. Especially Gaara & Ohnoki.

Yes. Not only am I paying attention but I shutdown all of your arguments & countered them. Her and Orochimaru meet?...in the war or the sannin meeting? Either way. It's all in vain. Her resistance against any of the kage is utterly futile.

The fact someone put Tsunade second on the list of kage...

If you think she can't even "touch" any of the kages.. you are already a bigger idiot, than the rest of fellow idiots.


Funny that she did what Ay while being lightened by Onoki failed to do.. hit Madara. hmm. But she can't touch them.. logic be failing in these Naruto Versus Forums.

 

[Pukkake Pokayo]

If you think she can't even "touch" any of the kages.. you are already a bigger idiot, than the rest of fellow idiots.


Funny that she did what Ay while being lightened by Onoki failed to do.. hit Madara. hmm. But she can't touch them.. logic be failing in these Naruto Versus Forums.

Getting real tired of your shit. Like no one agrees with you.

Gaara. Flies out of reach. Sand tsunami GG.

Ohnoki. Flies out of reach. Jinton GG.

Raikage. Nearly as fast as Minato. Out of her reach if he wants to be since he's capable of blitzing her head off anytime. GG. Only Minato & Naruto have survived V2 or w/e he said.

Mei. Out of reach since Tsunade can't detect her accurately through mist. Plus Mei is a ninja. She can jump huge distances. Lava from a load of directions. GG.

The last paragraph. What are you talking about? Raikage hit Madara's susano plenty of times. All the kage dud as they had to face 5 each. Retards be retarding on NB forums.

Tsunade is apparently faster than the Raikage.

 

[RedRobin]

Tsunade loses against every single one of the Gokage. In fact I don't see her beating any kage, ever, at all, except maybe Old Hiruzen.

Lol you mad?

 

[KidGamer65]

All Kage>Tsunade>Mei.

 

[super yang]

Tsunade loses against every single one of the Gokage. In fact I don't see her beating any kage, ever, at all, except maybe Trollkage.

fixed~

 

[RedRobin]

All Kage>Tsunade>Mei.

4th kazekage
Gaara as I have explained.
2nd mizukage
Mei
Old Hiruzen

Ay goes either way.

 

[Lord Tywin]

It's not funny how bad Gaara rapes Tsunade

 

[RedRobin]

It's not funny how bad Gaara rapes Tsunade

More like the other way around.

 

[RedRobin]

No one appreciates a good thread. Fine go ahead and continue arguing Naruto VS Sasuke and Boruto VS Sarada. How fun that is.

People who disliked didnt even bring up arguments to counter. I brought the evidence and backed it all up yet people want to sit there and act like I am wanking.

Some of you have some issues. Who cares which character wins a match, its about the arguments and how they can do it but no one wants to listen simply because they dont like the character and the character is related to SAKURA. Fine go ahead but at the end of the day I brought the arguments and no one countered. If Gaara beats Tsunade so easily then counter my point, you cant because I brought sufficient evidence to show Tsunade makes it very hard but that doesnt matter because you people are just mad I had the nerve to even try and argue it.

Its not about the arguments or the evidence, its about which characters have to be looked at as the strongest. No one cares about who actually would win in a match, no one cares about the evidence you have brought. They only care about making certain character appear to be strongest.

These debaters have simply gotten lost in bias towards characters. Definitely not like it used to be when people actually looked at the evidence instead of what character it supported.

 

[KingHashirama]

Been that way for year + bro lol.

 

[Lord Tywin]

>Associates Part one Gaara's feats to "KAZEKAGE" Gaara
>Says water, which by nature is <earth, can counter Gaara's sand
>Ignores the fact that Gaara can separate Tsunade and Katsuya
>Whines about no one taking him seriously
What?:lol

 

[RedRobin]

>Associates Part one Gaara's feats to "KAZEKAGE" Gaara
>Says water, which by nature is <earth, can counter Gaara's sand
>Ignores the fact that Gaara can separate Tsunade and Katsuya
>Whines about no one taking him seriously
What?:lol

Kratos where did I say anything about water. Please seriously point this out because You dont know how to read. I never stated water not ONCE. But if you are talking about katsuyu's liquid form yeah its NOT water.

Show me kazekage Gaara creating more sand in a neutral location, not a desert.

Katsuyu counters the sand so how are they getting seperated?

You looked at for seconds I bet and didnt even read it. Froget you, you are the exact kind of person I described up there, you dont care about any evidence, You simply look at the character it supports instead.

 

[Exaar]

Some of you have some issues. Who cares which character wins a match, its about the arguments and how they can do it but no one wants to listen simply because they dont like the character and the character is related to SAKURA. Fine go ahead but at the end of the day I brought the arguments and no one countered. If Gaara beats Tsunade so easily then counter my point, you cant because I brought sufficient evidence to show Tsunade makes it very hard but that doesnt matter because you people are just mad I had the nerve to even try and argue it.

You didn't bring evidence for tsunade beating Gaara, You brought speculation of Katsuyu's liquid form countering Gaara's sand simply because mizukages Oil did and thats all your argument is based on. You didn't even factor in that summons have timer limits.

Gaara beating tsunade rather easily doesn't make tsunade weak, It's just that Tsunade is a close range fighter with no long range and limited speed. It's an absolute perfect match up for someone like gaara.

If i really wanted to be awkward about the match up i would've brought up tsunades unwillingness to even summon katsuyu outside of medical reasons or to counter other summons.

 

[KidGamer65]

OP. Just. Stop. No one is taking this nonsense thread seriously because your argumentation makes no sense.

Tsunade can punch through sand and would be able to power through if sand covered her whole body but eventually it will come to a point where Katsuyu would be summoned [1]-[2]-[3].

Liquid Counter Explanation [Open Large] Now Katsuyu's liquid form outright ruins Gaara's sand abilities. She can control the liquid as shown when she uses her liquid to travel quickly across the battlefield and when she absorbs Sakura, you can see the liquid was moved around Sakura's body to take her in and then release her. Its similar to how the 2nd Mizukage was constantly oozing out of Gaara's sand because it seeped through and couldnt contain his liquid form. But with Katsuyu its even better due to the sheer size of Katsuyu's amount of liquid compared to the Mizukage. This also stops Gaara's sand sealing justu like the pyramid which the Mizukage couldnt ooze out of due to the amount of sand. Now if Gaara tries to use the sand on Katsuyu she can turn to liquid and ooze right out of any sand Gaara uses. She could completely cover all the sand Gaara has on the battlefield completely nullifying Gaara's abilities.

Databook 2 - Katsuyu Daibunretsu:
Another piece of evidence is capturing her is impossible already because of her division but it would be even harder in her liquid from. Gaara wont be able to trap her in his sand.

The only problem would be if Gaara stays in the air which would be the opposite of fighting. Eventually he will deplete his reserves while Tsunade has loads of chakra and stamina to continue to fight.

Katsuyu scaled to Gaara's stand amount:

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Largest amount of sand Gaara has shown to use in an neutral area meaning no desert.

The bulk of this BS is rendered 100% false and pointless because you foolishly tried to equate Katsuyu's liquid form to Mizukage's liquid form when the only reason that Mizukage's "water" was working was because it's oil mixed with water. Oily water. When Katsuyu produces either of the two then we can talk. Until then, you don't even have an argument as the only other thing you posted was that she can punch through his sand, ignoring the fact that she can't punch through Sand Tsunami nor can she punch through the Sand Bullet attack he used against Madara when he was revived. That tech pierces her, she gets bound, and then Gaara finishes her with Sand Tsunami+Prison Sand Burial and then crushes her with little effort.

-Large amounts of sand block her punches.
-Katsuyu is bound or buried.
-Tsunade is crushed.

Low diff.

 

[Ghost in the Shell]

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