Orochimaru vs MS Sasuke

[Curse Mark]

Im curious how can Orochimaru teach Sasuke a jutsu he does not have himself?

Kakashi now has rasenshuriken

 

[itsxtrayy]

Kakashi now has rasenshuriken

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[Haizaki]

Scenario 1, Sasuke oneshots in his MS state.

Scenario2 , Sasuke takes it as well.

 

[LuckyMan]

Scenario 1, Sasuke oneshots in his MS state.

Scenario2 , Sasuke takes it as well.

One shots with what?

 

[Haizaki]

One shots with what?

Mangekyou Sharingan Genjutsu. Orochimaru always fell prey to the Uchiha's Genjutsu easily.

 

[LuckyMan]

Mangekyou Sharingan Genjutsu. Orochimaru always fell prey to the Uchiha's Genjutsu easily.

You say it as if Orochimaru has zero counter measures or he'll just let Sasuke walk up to him and make the eye contact for the genjutsu.

 

[Haizaki]

You say it as if Orochimaru has zero counter measures or he'll just let Sasuke walk up to him and make the eye contact for the genjutsu.

What are those counter measures ? Also check the distance between Sasuke and Deidara before Dei got put into a Genjutsu.

 

[NarutoX28]

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You totally misunderstood him.

He was poking fun at the post b/c Kakashi managed to help teach Naruto the RasenShuriken despite not having it, so the fact that Bored actually questioned how Orochimaru could teach Sasuke a jutsu he doesn't have means he would actually have to think that Kakashi knows the RasenShuriken despite the manga contradicting that thought process.

 

[LuckyMan]

What are those counter measures ? Also check the distance between Sasuke and Deidara before Dei got put into a Genjutsu.

Well Shadow Clones for starters.Visual Genjutsu doesn't work by an Uchiha just looking at someone's eyes. The eyes of the user and the target must meet so that distance is irrelevant because Orochimaru is no fool who'd meet his gaze and has manga Intel, which means full Intel for him after he watched Sasuke fight Itachi and Kabuto via observing from the curse mark.

 

[Haizaki]

Well Shadow Clones for starters.Visual Genjutsu doesn't work by an Uchiha just looking at someone's eyes. The eyes of the user and the target must meet so that distance is irrelevant because Orochimaru is no fool who'd meet his gaze and has manga Intel, which means full Intel for him after he watched Sasuke fight Itachi and Kabuto via observing from the curse mark.

Orochimaru fell prey to this twice from what I recall. What feats suggest otherwise? Shadow clones are non factors before Enton.

Danzo as well has engaged the Uchihas well enough as seen with how many Sharingans he's obtained yet he still fell for the same Genjutsu when he fought Sasuke. Show me feats and don't make up stuff especially when he fell for this 2 damn times..Kakashi fell for it but later showed feats that he could battle it. Orochimaru? None.

 

[Draegod]

Orochimaru fell prey to this twice from what I recall. What feats suggest otherwise? Shadow clones are non factors before Enton.

Danzo as well has engaged the Uchihas well enough as seen with how many Sharingans he's obtained yet he still fell for the same Genjutsu when he fought Sasuke. Show me feats and don't make up stuff especially when he fell for this 2 damn times..Kakashi fell for it but later showed feats that he could battle it. Orochimaru? None.

Fell prey? No. Oru and Itachi had a small skirmish and allowed him to catch him in genjutsu then was about to break it no diff (which is why itachi cut his hand). Broke Sasukes Instantly years later. Genjutsu is literally a non factor to Oru its a myth at the highest degree! Only Tsukuyomi and Genjutsu's of the highest caliber are even worth mentioning. He literally has so many counters to gen it isnt even funny.

Is there any other reason besides "genjutsu is his weakness" when that is clearly proven false.

 

[Haizaki]

Fell prey? No. Oru and Itachi had a small skirmish and allowed him to catch him in genjutsu then was about to break it no diff (which is why itachi cut his hand). Broke Sasukes Instantly years later. Genjutsu is literally a non factor to Oru its a myth at the highest degree! Only Tsukuyomi and Genjutsu's of the highest caliber are even worth mentioning. He literally has so many counters to gen it isnt even funny.

Is there any other reason besides "genjutsu is his weakness" when that is clearly proven false.

He only broke through 3T? Not the MS.

 

[Draegod]

He only broke through 3T? Not the MS.

Ms Genjutsu isn't anything spl. It doesn't compare to KA or Tsukuyomi. It is literally just a base Genjutsu for MS, It has no feats of being "unbreakable" or "Wayyyy better". If that was the case why would Tsukuyomi and KA exist if "base MS genjutsu is The end all be all".

Bee was broken out of it by having the 8 tails disrupt his chakra, Oru has snakes and other meathods to do the same thing. The 2 times he was caught in Genjutsu He was far from serious and literally was about to break itachis and Broke Sasukes. And Sasuke with 3 tomoe and CM (an once of Oru's Senjutsu btw) bested Tsukuyomi cannonly, so the Notion that "ms is better" is fanfic at it's best.

 

[LuckyMan]

Orochimaru fell prey to this twice from what I recall. What feats suggest otherwise? Shadow clones are non factors before Enton.

Danzo as well has engaged the Uchihas well enough as seen with how many Sharingans he's obtained yet he still fell for the same Genjutsu when he fought Sasuke. Show me feats and don't make up stuff especially when he fell for this 2 damn times..Kakashi fell for it but later showed feats that he could battle it. Orochimaru? None.

He fell prey to it when he met their gaze. I'm saying Orochimaru won't meet his gaze, and you're asking me for feats to suggest that he won't...? Would I need feats to suggest Tobirama wouldn't look into Sasukes eye's too? He simply just doesn't look into Sasukes eye's. I'm putting myself in Orochimarus mind and you're putting yourself in Sasukes dictating what they do in this fight, yes? So what happened in the past is irrelevant because I'm telling you that in this particular fight, Orochimaru won't look into his eye's, regardless of what he did before, he won't this time, so its up to you to provide some scenario or situation where Orochimaru might be forced or compelled in some way to meet his gaze.

Danzo made eye contact with Sasuke when he got up close to him when they clashed with their shuriken and kunai, that's how he was caught. You're saying it as if Sasuke caught him in some super clever way despite Danzo trying to prevent it and that wasn't the case.

 

[BlacLord™]

Lmao if you think any genjutsu from sasuke would be relevant than delete your account bro! Lol throw an argument I beg you!! Haha

Show us a scan of Oro breaking out of any Sharingan genjutsu. Once you do, we'll happily acknowledge your point.


Go on, off you pop.

 

[Curse Mark]

Show us a scan of Oro breaking out of any Sharingan genjutsu. Once you do, we'll happily acknowledge your point.


Go on, off you pop.

Oro VS Sasuke when Sasuke used the same genjutsu Itachi did

 

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