EMS Sasuke VS Killer Bee

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Location: Taka Vs Killer Bee
Intel: same as manga [after Taka Vs Killer Bee]
Distance: 50 m
Restriction: Susanoo,Aoda,Garuda,Amaterasu/Kagutsuchi and Bijuu chakra[Bee can only use gyuki to dispel Genjutsu ]
 
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will Sasuke be able to counter Bee's Unorthodox fighting style this type
Adult sasuke for sure!! Juubi arc ems didn't improve on cqc even though the ems can see more clear. At the end of the day that tech is meant to overwhelm and with just one sword no ninja in the manga would be able to counter attack, even itachi who is light years ahead in reaction and taijutsu opp to running and retreated rather then to counter and defeat it.

With samahada bee wins for sure, with out base bee only has that tech that should defeat him based on ems sasuke not getting any better in cqc as opposed to adult sasuke who is a monster in cqc dear god!! Lol
 

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Sasuk easily sees through the 7 sword dance. Itachi deflected 13 hits with a kunai and he's far less perceptive then EMS Sasuke. Sasuke should easily handle it. Not to mention, last time Sasuke was already tired before the fight, this time he has EMS, far stronger chakra, intel, etc.
 

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Adult sasuke for sure!! Juubi arc ems didn't improve on cqc even though the ems can see more clear. At the end of the day that tech is meant to overwhelm and with just one sword no ninja in the manga would be able to counter attack, even itachi who is light years ahead in reaction and taijutsu opp to running and retreated rather then to counter and defeat it.

With samahada bee wins for sure, with out base bee only has that tech that should defeat him based on ems sasuke not getting any better in cqc as opposed to adult sasuke who is a monster in cqc dear god!! Lol
Once Sasuke got used to his ems he automatically became better in cqc don't you remember vote 1 where Naruto went kn0 and was kicking Sasuke's ass but when his 3 tomoe evolved he started owing him?:
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He says "His movements that i couldn't catch before... I can see them!" It would be the same for killer bee.
 
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Sasuk easily sees through the 7 sword dance. Itachi deflected 13 hits with a kunai and he's far less perceptive then EMS Sasuke. Sasuke should easily handle it. Not to mention, last time Sasuke was already tired before the fight, this time he has EMS, far stronger chakra, intel, etc.
Lol more chakra does not make you better in close combat. Training makes you better in close combat hence adult sasuke being equal to bsm cloak naruto in power and speed in base. Itachi did exactly what sasuke did deflect deflevt deflect but itachi literally got the fuq out of there and sasuke didn't, that's the only difference. Ems ups his vision for sure but he still has the same body and cqc skills that didn't improve like adult sasuke.

Once Sasuke got used to his ems he automatically became better in cqc don't you remember vote 1 where Naruto went kn0 and was kicking Sasuke's ass but when his 3 tomoe evolved he started owing him?:
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He says "His movements that i couldn't catch before... I can see them!" It would be the same for killer bee.

Agreed his vision got better but not like how you assume it to be. His body still wouldn't be faster to deal with the 8 strikes plus samahada absorbing the lightning out of sasukes swords while bees swords stay lightning which slice through his only defense to the assault. Adult sasuke improved on everything greatly so that's a diff story. Haha
 

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Lol more chakra does not make you better in close combat. Training makes you better in close combat hence adult sasuke being equal to bsm cloak naruto in power and speed in base. Itachi did exactly what sasuke did deflect deflevt deflect but itachi literally got the fuq out of there and sasuke didn't, that's the only difference. Ems ups his vision for sure but he still has the same body and cqc skills that didn't improve like adult sasuke.
Stronger chakra does though. And anyways his movements are far better with EMS as Madara stated bro. He moves much better with the Choku tomoe. And true, but Itachi did it with a Kunai, Sasuke had a sword. Either way, Sasuke would win this pretty badly.
 

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Sasuke wins high diff.

Lol at people saying KB would own him on CQC like last time. EMS Precog --> Tags Juubito. He can keep up with KB on CQC now, and thanks to KB's restrictions on bijuu chakra he gets the upper hand.
 

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Lol more chakra does not make you better in close combat. Training makes you better in close combat hence adult sasuke being equal to bsm cloak naruto in power and speed in base. Itachi did exactly what sasuke did deflect deflevt deflect but itachi literally got the fuq out of there and sasuke didn't, that's the only difference. Ems ups his vision for sure but he still has the same body and cqc skills that didn't improve like adult sasuke.




Agreed his vision got better but not like how you assume it to be. His body still wouldn't be faster to deal with the 8 strikes plus samahada absorbing the lightning out of sasukes swords while bees swords stay lightning which slice through his only defense to the assault. Adult sasuke improved on everything greatly so that's a diff story. Haha
Dude, his precog being better means his reactions are automatically faster because he sees your move coming like a second before you make it, with Ems that precog is greatly enhanced. So his body isn't technically faster, but his reactions are which is what would allow him to fend off the dance and dodge the samehada strikes. Vote 1 is the perfect example, once sasuke got 3tomoe he went from being owned to owing, same scenario.

Also, Killer Bee can't use samehada and do the sword dance at the same time it's one or the other.
 
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Stronger chakra does though. And anyways his movements are far better with EMS as Madara stated bro. He moves much better with the Choku tomoe. And true, but Itachi did it with a Kunai, Sasuke had a sword. Either way, Sasuke would win this pretty badly.
lol No it doesn't! Sakura had the biggest chakra jump bar rikudo characters yet her CQC did not improve. Chakra just makes you stronger, not trains your body instantly. haha Bee didnt use Lightning chakra against itachi simple as that, yet we know for a fact he can and when he does owns any standard weapon based on manga facts.


Sasuke wins high diff.

Lol at people saying KB would own him on CQC like last time. EMS Precog --> Tags Juubito. He can keep up with KB on CQC now, and thanks to KB's restrictions on bijuu chakra he gets the upper hand.
Lol Ppl still think Juubito used Combat speed let alone Shunshin speed. lmao Juubito was flying... Not running... Not CQC.. not Shunshin... but flying. Please learn the difference. Even the Great madara couldn't counter attack Aye and could only block, yet he is slower then Juubito by miles! EMS madara>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Ems Sasauke in any thing and everything! EMS doesn't make his arms move faster and magically have the ability to block 8 strikes at once (not possible), he would have to retreat every single time.

Dude, his precog being better means his reactions are automatically faster because he sees your move coming like a second before you make it, with Ems that precog is greatly enhanced. So his body isn't technically faster, but his reactions are which is what would allow him to fend off the dance and dodge the samehada strikes. Vote 1 is the perfect example, once sasuke got 3tomoe he went from being owned to owing, same scenario.

Also, Killer Bee can't use samehada and do the sword dance at the same time it's one or the other.
Reactions do not get a boost, he always had the body to beat to Naruto, he just could never see him with 2 tomoe. Which is what 3 tomoe gave to him, the ABILITY TO SEE naruto. Not the ability to react to naruto, big difference. Sasuke at that time had Lee's Taijutsu like body thanks to the training he had, which is why kakashi trained him to have a similar body/fighting style.

VOTE was a horrible example since he literally stated he could see him now thanks to 3 tomoe, he never mentioned "my body is better and i can move faster/swing my arms faster now". Sasuke before like Itachi could always see Bee's strikes but with multiple spots being targeted on your body at once it is impossible to guard from head to toe when no spot on your body is safe!

bee can do what ever he wants. lol He can have Sama on his back (thus all chakra related things with in a certain range gets absorbed) and do the tech or simply have sama attack from the blind side while bee over whelms form the frontal assault. And with bee attacking non stop if sasuke even dares to look back even for a second.. He dies! or Sama successfully attacks from the flank do to sasuke focusing on bee in the front.
 

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lol No it doesn't! Sakura had the biggest chakra jump bar rikudo characters yet her CQC did not improve. Chakra just makes you stronger, not trains your body instantly. haha Bee didnt use Lightning chakra against itachi simple as that, yet we know for a fact he can and when he does owns any standard weapon based on manga facts.




Lol Ppl still think Juubito used Combat speed let alone Shunshin speed. lmao Juubito was flying... Not running... Not CQC.. not Shunshin... but flying. Please learn the difference. Even the Great madara couldn't counter attack Aye and could only block, yet he is slower then Juubito by miles! EMS madara>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Ems Sasauke in any thing and everything! EMS doesn't make his arms move faster and magically have the ability to block 8 strikes at once (not possible), he would have to retreat every single time.



Reactions do not get a boost, he always had the body to beat to Naruto, he just could never see him with 2 tomoe. Which is what 3 tomoe gave to him, the ABILITY TO SEE naruto. Not the ability to react to naruto, big difference. Sasuke at that time had Lee's Taijutsu like body thanks to the training he had, which is why kakashi trained him to have a similar body/fighting style.

VOTE was a horrible example since he literally stated he could see him now thanks to 3 tomoe, he never mentioned "my body is better and i can move faster/swing my arms faster now". Sasuke before like Itachi could always see Bee's strikes but with multiple spots being targeted on your body at once it is impossible to guard from head to toe when no spot on your body is safe!

bee can do what ever he wants. lol He can have Sama on his back (thus all chakra related things with in a certain range gets absorbed) and do the tech or simply have sama attack from the blind side while bee over whelms form the frontal assault. And with bee attacking non stop if sasuke even dares to look back even for a second.. He dies! or Sama successfully attacks from the flank do to sasuke focusing on bee in the front.
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And again, where does it say your CQC or body got faster? The entire page shows his eyes being able to predict and see better now. No where does it states "I can move better now". And again, show where EMS states "i'm fatser now", thats like saying when Sasuke got MS he became faster (non shunshin), physically stronger etc. EMS made his chakra shy rocket and see better no where does it hint nor suggest he became Faster in CQC. Sasuke with 3 tomoe was able to equally throw kunais at the same speed as Itachi with MS, does that mean Sasuk'es MS>>>>Itachi's MS since MS>3 tomoe? You make no sense what so ever.
 

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Reaction timing and Perception skills on par with BSM Naruto and reflexes above SM Naruto's?

Yeah, Killer Bee doesn't have a chance here even with a V2 Cloak.
 

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And again, where does it say your CQC or body got faster? The entire page shows his eyes being able to predict and see better now. No where does it states "I can move better now". And again, show where EMS states "i'm fatser now", thats like saying when Sasuke got MS he became faster (non shunshin), physically stronger etc.
Dojutsu's strength relies on the strength of your chakra within your brain. Sasuke's development of a superior dojutsu (EMS) implies that the Chakra within his brain is stronger which makes sense considering Itachi's Chakra is mixed with his own. He also developed the Choku Tomoe which implies a greater chakra quality overall which correlates to higher movement speed in general.

Not to mention his MS self struggled keeping up Killer Bee whereas his EMS self literally was complimented by a guy who trashed Tobirama.

EMS made his chakra shy rocket and see better no where does it hint nor suggest he became Faster in CQC. Sasuke with 3 tomoe was able to equally throw kunais at the same speed as Itachi with MS, does that mean Sasuk'es MS>>>>Itachi's MS since MS>3 tomoe? You make no sense what so ever.
You're misinterpreting what they're saying. The development of stronger Dojutsu implies your chakra quality increases overall. If Sasuke had access to the MS at that given point in time, speed-wise, 3T Sasuke would = MS Sasuke as he already developed the chakra gained from awakening the Mangekyo. If he didn't have the Mangekyo at the time and developed it later, then MS Sasuke > 3T Sasuke (Against Itachi).
 

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Could go either way due to Samehada. If Samehada can merge with Bee like its previous partner could, then he definitely wins. But under normal circumstances I favour Sasuke due to Choku tomoe.
 
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