Base Sasuke has more chakra than Base Naruto....

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Sasuke got rikudou chakra while Naruto has rikudou senjutsu.

-Sasuke was born a full UChiha who were noted to have a powerful form of chakra.

-Naruto was born half Uzumaki without red hair and they known for their life force.

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-Before that Sasuke had EMS which granted him the ability to form Susanoo a chakra construct that rivals bijuu mode.

-Naruto needed Kurama in order to gain bijuu mode and cant complete this task with his own chakra because it's too small in comparison.
 
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Naruto received hogoromo's chakra as well. the same amount sasuke did.

Red hair doesn't mean much, karin has no where near the reserves naruto has. Kurama also confirmed naruto has kushina's blood and chakra

So what if sasuke can make susanoo? Are you saying EMS madara has more chakra than base hashirama because his PS is bigger than wood god?

It's not that simple to compare chakra reserves kisame has more chakra than nagato yet nagato's stronget technique >>>>> kisame's strongest technique.
 

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Naruto received hogoromo's chakra as well.

Red hair doesn't mean much karin has no where near the reserves naruto has.

So what if sasuke can make susanoo? Are you saying EMS madara has more chakra than base hashirama beause his PS is bigger than wood god?

It's not that simple to compare chakra reserves kisame has more chakra than nagato yet nagato's stronget technique >>>>> kisame's strongest technique.
Karin and nagato have more chakra than naruto. PS=wood god. Naruto got his senjutsu which links him to TB and nature energy.
 

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so many retarded statements expected from a high rank sasutard,naruto was given half of hagoromo chakra along with sasuke,uzimaki are known for their life force and large chakra reserves,and wtf, ems sasuke was able to obtain ps after naruto gave him kyuubi chakra
 

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so many retarded statements expected from a high rank sasutard,naruto was given half of hagoromo chakra along with sasuke,uzimaki are known for their life force and large chakra reserves,and wtf, ems sasuke was able to obtain ps after naruto gave him kyuubi chakra
cant argue with fanfic.
 

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As black Zetsu said ''It doesn't matter what weapon you have but how you use it, you can have a shuriken but if you can't use it right it's useless, I can have a stone and if I use it right I can kill you.'' or something like, but you get where this is going.
 

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Karin and nagato have more chakra than naruto. PS=wood god. Naruto got his senjutsu which links him to TB and nature energy.
Lol what feats do you have that suggests karin has more chakra than naruto?

PS is bigger than wood god, you compared it's power to the bijuu and made power directly proportional to chakra.

This is why I brought kisame and nagato, can you tell me why kisame can't match nagato's jutsu scale with his own despite having more chakra? To become a sage one must have large reserves, a sage gets stronger relative to the power they have in base. If they have low chakra in base SM ain't going to help.
 

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Lol what feats do you have that suggests karin has more chakra than naruto?

PS is bigger than wood god, you compared it's power to the bijuu and made power directly proportional to chakra.

This is why I brought kisame and nagato, can you tell me why kisame can't match nagato's jutsu scale with his own despite having more chakra? To become a sage one must have large reserves, a sage gets stronger relative to the power they have in base. If they have low chakra in base SM ain't going to help.
Nagato has the rinnegan, comparing him to Kisame based on reserves alone is not good logic. Kisame Great shark bullet which in theory can consume any TBB. TBH i think Kisame can easily flood a village at full power. PS= wood god. Nothing suggest one has the edge over the other.

Karin restored Tsunade who has humongous reserves.
 

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Nagato has the rinnegan, comparing him to Kisame based on reserves alone is not good logic. Kisame Great shark bullet which in theory can consume any TBB. TBH i think Kisame can easily flood a village at full power. PS= wood god. Nothing suggest one has the edge over the other.

Karin restored Tsunade who has humongous reserves.
Rinnegan doesn't give one more chakra, if you say that it does then the same must be said for other occular jutsu. And therefore sasuke isn't exactly base and had chakra increases as he progressed from MS to EMS to Rinnegan. It also means that he gains a boost when he uses them.

Kisame used his full power against gai, there is nothing to suggest he didn't to my knowledge. That technique isn't flooding a village.

Ok if PS=wood god, does that mean EMS madara's chakra is equal to hashirama's?

Tsunade's reserves are smaller than naruto's DB 3 gave her a 4/5 and naruto a 5/5. Karin filling her up is impressive but karin was tired after that. Naruto was spamming chakra taxing techniques like multi shadow clone since he was a child, and overpowered a partially transformed jinchuriki like gaara. That's something karin can't replicate.
 

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Rinnegan doesn't give one more chakra, if you say that it does then the same must be said for other occular jutsu. And therefore sasuke isn't exactly base and had chakra increases as he progressed from MS to EMS to Rinnegan. It also means that he gains a boost when he uses them.

Kisame used his full power against gai, there is nothing to suggest he didn't to my knowledge. That technique isn't flooding a village.

Ok if PS=wood god, does that mean EMS madara's chakra is equal to hashirama's?

Tsunade's reserves are smaller than naruto's DB 3 gave her a 4/5 and naruto a 5/5. Karin filling her up is impressive but karin was tired after that. Naruto was spamming chakra taxing techniques like multi shadow clone, that's something karin can't replicate.
Kisame didn't fuse with Samehada which his is true power. Not to mention 1000 great white sharks and flooding an area with water is his specialty. HAshirama had so much more power available beside Wood Golem and Naruto has nothing like that... I disagree with the karin part she can definetly spam shadow clones if she became proficient with the tech as naruto. She most certainly has the stamina and shes not a fighter. I can vouch for Tsunades stamina and it most certainly isn't lower than early part 2 naruto. The db is inconsistent and the 3rd one doesn't take into account war arc feats.

In order to gain rinnegan u need to get six paths chakra. Rinnegan is a direct result of that.
 

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How can this even be quantified ?

I understand where you are coming from but your thread is nothing more than a couple of assumptions never proved by facts in the Manga but only from your interpretation of things.
 

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Kisame didn't fuse with Samehada which his is true power. Not to mention 1000 great white sharks and flooding an area with water is his specialty. HAshirama had so much more power available beside Wood Golem and Naruto has nothing like that... I disagree with the karin part she can definetly spam shadow clones if she became proficient with the tech as naruto. She most certainly has the stamina and shes not a fighter. I can vouch for Tsunades stamina and it most certainly isn't lower than early part 2 naruto. The db is inconsistent and the 3rd one doesn't take into account war arc feats.

In order to gain rinnegan u need to get six paths chakra. Rinnegan is a direct result of that.
Kisame absorbed chakra from samehada before the fight which means he had samehada + killer bee's bijuu chakra added to his own. He had more chakra at that fight then he normally does.

Yeah, naruto has nothing like that, but wood god was his most impressive jutsu in base. While hotei no jutsu was larger it was much weaker since madara neg diffed the hands. Lets not forget madara had other techniques too. So again, does that mean EMS madara's chakra= hashirama's?

You believe, but nothing to my knowledge suggests she could? I know she isn't a fighter but we can't just work with suppositions.

I agree the DB is inconsistent to some degree but tsunade's best feat is healing the village during the pain fight but that was because she had huge reserves of chakra stored, unless you can show me scans of tsunade pulling off such things in base then there is no argument. Also if we use that logic sakura has more chakra than a RSM naruto clone in base which is ridiculous.

I know you need rikudo chakra to get rinnegan same as RSM. Both are powers of the six paths.

The Rinnegan gives powerful chakra. As stated by Obito.
Your point? I said more chakra as in quantity not potency.
 

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You said ''Rinnegan oesn't give one more chakra.''
Obito statement shows that it adds more chakra to the user and a very strong amount of it at that.
The manga makes a distinction between chakra potency and quantity, at least that is what I understood from it. If what you say is true then Rinnegan sasuke and EMS sasuke can't be considered as base since foreign chakra was added.

This further goes to show that base sasuke doesn't have more chakra than base naruto.
 

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Kisame absorbed chakra from samehada before the fight which means he had samehada + killer bee's bijuu chakra added to his own. He had more chakra at that fight then he normally does.

Yeah, naruto has nothing like that, but wood god was his most impressive jutsu in base. While hotei no jutsu was larger it was much weaker since madara neg diffed the hands. Lets not forget madara had other techniques too. So again, does that mean EMS madara's chakra= hashirama's?

You believe, but nothing to my knowledge suggests she could? I know she isn't a fighter but we can't just work with suppositions.

I agree the DB is inconsistent to some degree but tsunade's best feat is healing the village during the pain fight but that was because she had huge reserves of chakra stored, unless you can show me scans of tsunade pulling off such things in base then there is no argument. Also if we use that logic sakura has more chakra than a RSM naruto clone in base which is ridiculous.

I know you need rikudo chakra to get rinnegan same as RSM. Both are powers of the six paths.



Your point? I said more chakra as in quantity not potency.
Like I said Kisame was not at full power. He needed Samehada to heal himself not to mention he was hiding the entire time in a weakneed state after fighting with Bee. A fresh Kisame has bijuu reserves and Samehada to fuse with. He fought the eight tails evenly....


Madara has large reserves to fight with Hashirama but in no way were there reserves equal. Tsunade has more chakra than Naruto her feats top his without Kyuubi it's just that simple. How could Karin not spam shadow clones again? Exactly how much chakra do you think NAruto possesses? Healing an entire village is a huge feat not sure what you are getting at.


RSM and Rinnegan are equal but they are still different. NAruto recieved senjutsu not the six paths chakra.
 
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What a dummy sasuke couldn't even Create more than twin Chidoris with cm and its even stated to be a jin u have to have a large chakra pool also strong chakra also that's needed for sm to sasuke could barely control cm hence he has a low chakra pool also sasuke must recharge after using his rinnegan techs dude even recharges after amaretsu he has low chakra reserves just like itachi
 
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