Sasuke without his sharingan and Naruto without the kurama

[Cooh]

There is no one born with sharingan either. Yet some people like to claim its Sasuke's power.



Kyuubi is a seperate chakara source. Its not a entity that is made to live outside of its chamber.

Since Sasuke is an Uchiha he is born with the Sharingan in his DNA every Uchiha and only Uchiha can unlock it. So it is his power. It has been passed down for generations.

The Kyubi is a seperate being since it has a mind and a body.

 

[super michael]

There is no one born with sharingan either. Yet some people like to claim its Sasuke's power.



Kyuubi is a seperate chakara source. Its not a entity that is made to live outside of its chamber.

Uchiha are born with the potential to awaken Sharingan, so that is normal for them, just like how it is normal for Hyuga to have Byukugan, Kaguya clan to have bones, Hagoromo and his clan to have Rinnengan, etc. Heck even Sarada a half Uchiha has got Sharingan.

Uchiha can't get Rinnengan because they are not from the same clan as Hagoromo.

But being a Jinchuuriki there is no way to be born with a Bijuu, the only way to be Jinchuuriki is once they are born to seal them, which is not normal for any clan.

 

[Natsu Shazneel]

Since Sasuke is an Uchiha he is born with the Sharingan in his DNA every Uchiha and only Uchiha can unlock it. So it is his power. It has been passed down for generations.

The Kyubi is a seperate being since it has a mind and a body.

Not every Uchiha is born to unlock sharingan. Only a select few with special chakara.

 

[Cooh]

Not every Uchiha is born to unlock sharingan. Only a select few with special chakara.

Tobirama clearly states in the Manga that any Uchiha can release that chakra.

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[Liquid Snake]

SM Naruto with Prep is close to Pain. :| and Sasuke doesn't take Pain because it's a bad match up

Amaterasu and Genjutsu work on Third Raikage since he isn't as fast as Ay

First of all 3rd raikage is stronger than ay who isn't even stronger than tsunade lol and sasuke won't even beat these so called fodder pains also Amaretsu won't work ay dodged it neg diff and sasuke isn't madara he won't catch the raikage in genjutsu.

 

[SUPERDEADLYKING]

bloody hell LOL well no matter what jutsu or beast they all have inside them. one thing is for sure they all have HELP breathing because of oxygen XD (though don't know about the otsutsuki clan lol)

 

[Liquid Snake]

Again, assumptions. MS Sasuke kept up with the fourth raikage which shows he can go blow to blow with a raikage's speed and armor, only reason sasuke would probably lose against the third is because he wouldnt have been able to contact bee and find the raikage's weak spot. Last I checked, SM Naruto would've gotten negged by pain waaaay earlier if it wasn't for Deva path's recharge time. He dealt with all the other fodder pains before deva was ready, and once Deva was ready, Naruto got negged in seconds needing Kurama's rescue

Lets say sasuke did know raikages weakness how would he exploit it lol and sasuke couldn't beat pain without deva path all his jutsu Is absorbed and he doesn't have a move pain can't see to counter them being visually linked he's done also the summons

 

[ninjarasengan]

Sasuke without Sharingan- No curse seal, no Chidori, no mind awakening pill enhancement, no Lee's Taijutsu, His Shuriken Jutsu would be less effective.

Naruto without Kurama- Trained in a completely different way by Jiraiya...since his training focused on mastering Kurama

 

[Blackzoro]

Ohh boy looks like there was a party on the base about naruto i missed it lmao was funny reading these posts doe. But i cant believe after 15 years of naruto having kurama in him and using his chakra is still rustling ya. Whats ironic is that in the final battle sasuke even relied on tail beasts chakra. It doesnt matter if naruto never had kurama lol but if he didnt then kishi would make a different naruto without kurama which would still most likely have some godlike power hes ashura reincarnate. And lmao at the end sasukes final word was still gonna be "i lost ". SM naruto > MS sasuke

 

[Natsu Shazneel]

Uchiha are born with the potential to awaken Sharingan, so that is normal for them, just like how it is normal for Hyuga to have Byukugan, Kaguya clan to have bones, Hagoromo and his clan to have Rinnengan, etc. Heck even Sarada a half Uchiha has got Sharingan.

Uchiha can't get Rinnengan because they are not from the same clan as Hagoromo.

But being a Jinchuuriki there is no way to be born with a Bijuu, the only way to be Jinchuuriki is once they are born to seal them, which is not normal for any clan.

There is no way to be born a Jinjuriki in normal circumstances. But Naruto's case is a special one. He was made one when he was a baby. Meaning he had this power even while he had no control over it. Also lets not forget early on in his life this power was a curse for him. There is no way to assume this powerup was a great traite of him in his life.

Tobirama clearly states in the Manga that any Uchiha can release that chakra.

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He stated the condition. It doesn't mean every Uchiha can do it.

 

[Commander Axe]

Lets say sasuke did know raikages weakness how would he exploit it lol and sasuke couldn't beat pain without deva path all his jutsu Is absorbed and he doesn't have a move pain can't see to counter them being visually linked he's done also the summons

His sharingan was able to doge an attack from the 4th raikage who is significantly faster, if sasuke knew he would simply dodge and strike A's arm with a chidori reflecting the attack back at him the same way Naruto did it. Seriously man its not rocket science lol
Also as for the pains, Amaterasu or genutsu handles the summons, either one really, the pains literally cannot see amatersu coming as it appears on sight. That handles pretty much any other pain except deva and absorbtion. Absorbtion pain is handled by genjutsu as we know genjutsu is effective on pain

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Sasuke can handle all except deva

 

[Kushina san]

Sharingan/Kurama or not, Sasuke and Naruto have received power ups from the first series.

Without them, they would not even be in the top tiers or alive.

 

[Pukkake Pokayo]

People are retarded :l

Naruto has the body & chakra destined for being a jin. Sasukr has the eyes and brain destined to awaken the sharingan. Eyes and body. Yin and yang. Wtf is the problem?

 

[Nick01]

Let's be real. In the long run Sauce would fodder without Itachi's eyes. Naruto would still be op.
Ty and Lord Seventh solos.

 

[Warlocks]

you guys are all wrong you cant take Sharingan from sasuke if you want then
take ems
like that
ms sasuke = sm naruto
ems sasuke(jugo cursed+kubay clok) = bsm naruto

 

[take it easy]

People are retarded :l

Naruto has the body & chakra destined for being a jin. Sasukr has the eyes and brain destined to awaken the sharingan. Eyes and body. Yin and yang. Wtf is the problem?

Butthurt, ignorance and salt are the real problems.

 

[Cooh]

There is no way to be born a Jinjuriki in normal circumstances. But Naruto's case is a special one. He was made one when he was a baby. Meaning he had this power even while he had no control over it. Also lets not forget early on in his life this power was a curse for him. There is no way to assume this powerup was a great traite of him in his life.



He stated the condition. It doesn't mean every Uchiha can do it.

rofl ofc it does re-read it, he says "When UCHIHA suffer" and not any particular Uchiha with your fanfic chakra.

 

[Honord Sage]

Look Kishi wanted them the way they are,without them it be a different story. Sasuke would be a plain guy and Naruto would not have carry a bur dent that shaped His life.

 

[BlackBison]

When people take powers from these 2 people i noticed they all forget that naruto is half uzumaki. So lets actually take from sasuke and naruto their bloodline inheritance instead. This means sasuke loses his uchiha blood and naruto loses his uzumaki blood. This means that if naruto obtains the 9tails he dies pure and simple.

I find this funny when people try to compare sasuke bloodline inheritance(something that is in the core of sasuke's dna), to something that is older than both naruto and sasuke combined. That's even funnier when people claim that kurama is part of naruto's bloodline right. Kurama and all other bijus, are older than everyone in the manga.

Kurama is not an inanimate object, he is a living breathing being. In a sense all naruto's fight are naruto+kurama vs ?. All sasuke's fight are sasuke vs ?. Even though sasuke has itachi's eyes, its still only him fighting since his eyes don't talk to him. By some weird chance if sasuke's susanoo started to show a conscience, then it would be sasuke+susanoo vs ? but that has not happened.

 

[Liquid Snake]

His sharingan was able to doge an attack from the 4th raikage who is significantly faster, if sasuke knew he would simply dodge and strike A's arm with a chidori reflecting the attack back at him the same way Naruto did it. Seriously man its not rocket science lol
Also as for the pains, Amaterasu or genutsu handles the summons, either one really, the pains literally cannot see amatersu coming as it appears on sight. That handles pretty much any other pain except deva and absorbtion. Absorbtion pain is handled by genjutsu as we know genjutsu is effective on pain

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Sasuke can handle all except deva

lol wow chidori did nothing to ay or killer bee the third raikages def and speed and also strength is far greater he tanked a rasenshuriken and wind is his weakness Wtf would a lightning attack do to him and sasuke won't be able to be that close to deflect his attack and with pain Amaretsu gets absored the dog summon sasuke can't destroy or keep occupied along with the other summons and sound genjutsu works not visual those are madaras eyes lol but wats crazy is u said ay is any where near the third raikage in anything lol