Are we seriously going to make Trump president?

Who's your favorite candidate of the 4?

  • Trump

    Votes: 5 20.0%
  • Carson

    Votes: 2 8.0%
  • Fiorina

    Votes: 1 4.0%
  • Rubio

    Votes: 1 4.0%
  • None of the above are my choice

    Votes: 16 64.0%

  • Total voters
    25

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I can't wait for Kanye to lose miserably. Will hurt his ego quite a bit. On topic, Trump will run US into the ground should he win, I'm not a big fan of Republican ''guns blazing''/''shoot first ask later'' policy and as Democrats will not win this one, I hope the least crazy one wins... Seems like the pattern repeats itself more or less Republicans - Democrats - Republicans etc
 

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Imagining a reality TV personality and real estate mogul going to be a US president is very hard for me. I'm just keep hearing words negotiation and fired every times.:bdpf:
Imagine the Terminator being the Governor of California. lol Stuff happens.

OT: I like Trump's brute honesty. Like it or not, he's right about some stuff. However, I highly, highly doubt he'll be voted in as POTUS.
 

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If this were true, than the exit poles right now are not representative of the voting populace. One thing I am not informed on is how accurate exit poles from this early in the debate prove to be. If you have evidence of candidates with such a serious lead not posing a threat later, please inform me.



Sure endorsements and republican support are prime factors. Often people will vote for or against certain candidates depending on how they think they'll fair against the opposing party's candidate. However, it all ultimately comes down to the American vote. The electoral vote decides it. How can you be so confident Trump has little chance if he's so far ahead in the polls right now?



These are my thoughts exactly. We'd undoubtedly be the laughing stalk of the world.
Because early polling's mean just about nothing, especially polling's over 300 days out. Cases like this are usually due to popularity. One example is Rudy Giuliani who back in 2008 was soaring in the polls. Giuliani like Trump, was more known than the others, however over the course of the campaign voters got to know the other candidates better and Giuliani fell from the lead drastically. I believe this is a similar case, and it's only a matter of time until America wakes up.
 

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There is nothing wrong with Trump. He wishes to make peace through strength. He wants to make the military so big and powerful that nobody will mess with the USA. Yes, he will ship away ALL ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS. He said you can be here if you get your green card like everyone else but don't come to American and have a kid to use as your anchor. Come legally and then have your kid, and don't go to America and take the Americans jobs. Before anyone says it, it does not matter what happened 400 years ago. They used to burn and stone people because they thought they were a witch. They also treated woman horribly
 

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I mean honestly, are we really going to do it? History tells us that come November of 2016, we will vote a republican into office. I don't even need to know the candidates and I would still be very willing to take the bet. Knowing how much of a lead Trump has, I'm actually quite certain he will be the next president and I'm actually a little scared. Truth is, that when we have 8 years of the same president, swing voters almost always swap their vote to the opposite party. The pattern becomes even more obvious when the person leaving office has a serious drop in approval rating. The two usually go hand in hand. Most of the population will say after 8 years of Obama that we need a republican in office. The fact the Democrat candidates are quite weak helps the equation, but again, I would take the bet regardless of the candidates.

As for Trump himself, I honestly don't get his attraction as a potential president. I'll let you in on my personal opinion of hm. His potential candidacy for president, in my opinion, is comparable to Arnold Schwarzenegger being governor of California. I thought he was a joke. I was honestly ASHAMED to call him a governor. I feel the exact same about Trump, I would be completely ashamed if he became president.

He's a television star for crying out loud. He's pompous, self-centered, arrogant, downright rude and a whole lot of other demeaning adjectives. I get it, people want change and they like the fact he's not politically correct. Well, we all wanted change when we voted Obama into office and we know what happened there.

Bottom line.... Trump is a shell of a candidate when compared to Fiona and Rubio. They are by far the best choices in my opinion. Can people not see his lack of maturity when compared to these two candidates? For some reason Jeb is way up there in the polls, mostly likely because he carries the name of Bush. I don't really understand Carlson's attraction and honestly I wouldn't want either of them as president. The whole thing baffles my mind and I'm quite frightened by the idea of Trump being the next president.

Please share your thoughts on the matter. If you're a serious Trump supporter, please tell me why you side with him. Thanks.
Trump is saying things that resonate with the way many people feel.

They are tired of a politically correct universe. They are tired of watching the Federal government completely ignore things like immigration laws. They are tired of watching tax dollars get spent on failed programs that do nothing but benefit cronies (Solendra, Cash for Clunkers, Shovel Ready Jobs, etc).

Trump is pretty much coming in and saying: "**** your political correctness, America is for Americans, and let's start spending money to make America strong, again, by reinforcing manufacturing."

That's the essence of Trump's message. He plays the "alpha male" very well - he barks orders and gets things done. People may mock his words or argue against how he went about something, but his character and history is motivating capital assets, people, and information to accomplish a goal. People can respect that, and people gravitate toward that type of individual when they do not feel secure in their current arrangement.

I don't think Trump would be a bad President, honestly. I do, however, believe it would be a sign that America is treading down a dangerous path. There are things Trump is not saying that also concern me. Absent from many of his speeches are things like: "Constitution" and "Limited Government." Trump isn't the type of person who is going to symbolize a return to the American way of life. Trump symbolizes a return of American industrial might and interventionist policy. While I am not a staunch isolationist, I am also more Libertarian in my beliefs that action abroad should only rarely be taken by the Federal State.

Is he really a serious candidate in USA? I wasn't paying attention to US elections.
At present, he is.

There are pretty much four serious candidates for the Office of the President, currently:

Donald Trump
Ben Carson
Carly Fiorina
Bernie Sanders

The robot that spoke at a Hillary fundraiser has deeper emotions than her - she just can't campaign. Unless she literally kills off every other candidate in existence, currently, she has no chance (though she would do it if she could get away with it). That, and she should be in jail.

If she is still alive when the U.S. breaks down in revolution, it is my goal to take her into custody and then deliver her to Serbia where they can figure out what to do with her. She was one of the linchpins in the plot to break up Yugoslavia and falsely implicate their nation in genocide. Twice.

Biden has talked about running... but that's just not the direction the winds are blowing.

It really comes down to Bernie Sanders versus whoever wins the nomination for the republicans. I have already promised my closest friends that, for the first time ever in my life, I will drink to the point of inebriation during the debate if it is between Trump and Sanders.

No. He's a publicity candidate. No one will actually vote for him, he's just needed to increase the voting populace.
Polls are mostly name recognition, even when you get up to the final day to vote. Trump has fire - he has drummed up the Republicans. Will they actually vote for him?

If he's the Republican candidate.

The real issue is whether or not some other Republican candidate can drum up enough support -after- the primaries to carry through to the election. If you have someone who won the nomination from a much smaller primary voting block, but who doesn't motivate the average person who typically identifies as Republican in the general election - you've not actually picked the strongest candidate.

It's quite obvious he won't be voted in, I mean honestly he simply doesn't have the support he needs from the Republican party to win. Endorsements are a very critical part of determining who wins, not just because they are a hint to who insiders think will win, but also because the people who make endorsements can influence the outcome of the race by strengthening a candidate’s local ground game, promoting the candidate to fellow party leaders and pitching the candidate to voters. Unless of course, Trump decides to run as an independent.

But honestly only time will tell
He doesn't have the support of the party establishment, really... but there is something of a revolt within the Republican/Conservative sections of the political spectrum that is rallying against the GOP. Most of the people who call themselves Republican have about had it with the party - which is part of Trump's popularity. He is running and gunning while proclaiming a message of 'hard ball' against Democrats and Republicans in the House and Senate, alike. Where the GOP establishment appears like a lap dog begging to drink the semen of Democrats/Obama - Trump is saying: "**** your couch!"

And that's what people want. They want people who are actually going to stand up and fight against what they see as the destruction of America - from the very concept of the Rule of Law to the economy to simple things like the right to not be told by the government what kind of router/modem they have to use.

Trump may only stand for part of that - but at least he is standing up and throwing punches back.

Like I said - I don't support his candidacy all that much. I think he is a Nationalist that talks way too much about what to use the power of government for as opposed to what the power of government should be limited to. I can understand the draw to him, though.

Personally, I am 100% in support of Carson. He would have to seriously **** up at this point to get me to question his candidacy. He may not be the most "alpha" among males, but he does have a record of success in leading medical teams. I'll take that. His advisers, so far, seem to be reading the climate well and that means that he seems to have picked solid advisers who have helped to keep him on track. I think he would pick a solid, honest cabinet that is going to have integrity. He and his cabinet will honestly approach problems with the goal of finding the best solution while considering that which falls within certain ideals - such as the Constitution. IE - a policy that may be advantageous but that causes damage to Constitutional limitations of power would likely be considered unacceptable barring extenuating circumstances.

That, and he's made a living where he has had to tell people that they are going to die. He's delivered bad news to people, and helped to counsel them through it. That experience is exactly what America needs. We've opted for politicians who keep telling us what we want to hear - that the tumor in our brains is going to give us super-powers one day, or whatever... People are starting to sour of it - being told that things are better than they actually are, where politicians blatantly lie to the point that even the average person is dumbfounded by the audacity. "Where is the recovery?"

Carson has told people they will die, and that it's time to make peace with it. Just like someone needs to tell this country exactly what the situation is.

You know...

Transparency.

What worries me about Trump is how he is basically promising to get 'pay back' and use the same corrupt systems to benefit a pissed off group of people more so than actually fix the corruption. His cabinet will be picked for being clever and aggressive delegates of authority who will turn the powers of the Presidency against those who have been deemed an enemy and toward accomplishing the stated objectives - with all kinds of manipulations of the laws and systems in the process.

It may get 'us' ahead in the short term... but it's a loss in the long term, in my opinion, as it will only breed further corruption of the government and further abuse of power - which is what has people so on edge at the moment to begin with.

I see the nomination coming down between Trump and Carson, with Carson picking up some serious steam as he comes out stronger on controversial issues. Except rather than simply blasting "I will build a wall!" - he will appeal to the reason behind why a border exists and what immigration controls are for - why they exist.

Which is what will end up undermining Trump's campaign in the long run. Trump is popular because he is delivering strong, unyielding positions that don't try to cater to a population that is never going to vote for a Republican, Conservative, etc. Once the other candidates figure out that they, too, can have strong ideas and win support (to be fair, Carson has long been willing to step out of line - what gained him popularity in the first place was his speech at a dinner with Obama where he mentioned Health Savings Accounts as opposed to Obamacare) - then those candidates will adopt just as unyielding of a tone with some rather staunch opinions to reflect his.

At that point, some of Trump's clout will begin to dry up, as many of the other candidates (such as Carson and Fiorina) are far more articulate and interesting people.

Further, voters can be pretty shallow. They will tend to vote for who looks most Presidential. While trump certainly looks like he could be behind a desk - he also looks like he could be a used car salesman. While that is better than Cristie, both Carson and Fiorina have him beaten out in terms of who looks Presidential.

At this point - support of the "establishment" is pretty much irrelevant. Trump's popularity pretty much firmly establishes that the "GOP establishment" is on its way out. If they somehow manage to muck with the primaries to get someone like Cristie or Bush in - the party pretty much goes into full on revolt and it wouldn't surprise me to see voters opt to recall some of their senators - literally firing them before their term is up.
 

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this guy is a clown ,if he became president ,then bye bye US .
The U.S. is already dead.

As is the world, honestly. Winter, as they say, is coming. Warehouses are stocked to the rafters with products no one is purchasing. New factory orders are in the toilet and the abysmal manufacturing data for Q3 was a lot of production slated for Q4 that was shoved ahead into Q3 ahead of the Federal Reserve's rate decision. Q4 production is horrible and Q1 for FY2016 simply doesn't exist.

Car lots are full of cars no one has any interest in buying because they are living paycheck to paycheck just making rent while Consumer Price Index ratings used to calculate inflation don't take into account food prices (because that's legitimate).

China devalued the Yuan in order to try and spur purchasing of its over-stocked inventory and to drive up manufacturing orders - but that's kind of backfired on them.

While the dollar has technically strengthened due to the inflation of other currencies and the collapse of commodities (such as oil), currencies throughout the EU have been decimated by the relative increase in U.S. trade value.

Which means the Federal Reserve -must- implement QE4 within the next few months to stave off a collapse of liquidity within the U.S. currency market (IE - the amount of dollars we say we have is far greater than the actual number of printed dollars available to deliver upon the stated values - relative strengthening of the dollar generates an impetus to spend and an inability to deliver, which further drives deflationary forces). The EU will also offer insane amounts of compensation/cooperation with the Federal Reserve for them to effectively inflate and devalue the dollar - since their own prices will have shot up due to inflation.

Which means the entire thing turns into a worldwide race to the bottom as each country begins trying to inflate its currency in order to try and drive spending into its economy from other nations.

Which effectively translates to worldwide hyper-inflation and a collapse of the global bond market (where most of our retirement funds are) - which means a collapse of global trade, most critically the trade of oil. Without oil, gasoline is not refined; without refined gasoline, mechanized farming equipment doesn't move, nor do the trucks/trains that deliver the supplies across the world (or the ships/planes).

Translated, that means we go from 'today' to something approaching an apocalyptic scene in as little as two weeks, depending upon how fast the bond markets collapse under those situations. One week and a half for the bond markets to fully collapse and trade to collapse in its wake. Three days for store inventories to run out and riots to begin.

This will happen.

The question is precisely how fast it will occur and at exactly what time. If it is slow enough - the opportunity for something of internationally recognized value to fill the international trade gap for things like oil exists - but faith in the current economic system is still strong enough to drive it to the point of mathematical collapse, at which point it will be a nearly apocalyptic collapse as it will be 'unforeseen.'

Nah. Bernie the socialist will win.
He'll get about 45% of the vote. He isn't going to motivate a large number of Democrats to the polls, and he doesn't look all that Presidential. He will get the people who show up at the polls and who typically vote Democrat - but he isn't really going to be a serious obstacle for a decent Republican candidate.
 

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He'll get about 45% of the vote. He isn't going to motivate a large number of Democrats to the polls, and he doesn't look all that Presidential. He will get the people who show up at the polls and who typically vote Democrat - but he isn't really going to be a serious obstacle for a decent Republican candidate.
He'll murder Trump(Too many politically correct white people), Fiorina(Not enough women), Rubio(obvious), and Bush(Even more obvious). The only ones that stand a chance are Cruz and Carson. Both are idiots, but Carson is the lesser of two. If the women can't vote Hillary, they'll vote Bernie. The politically correct whites will vote Bernie. The poor looking for handouts will vote Bernie. I really can't see Bernie losing unless he manages to besmirch himself from now to the big day. There just isn't a candidate that can stop the hype behind him.
 

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Trump is saying things that resonate with the way many people feel.

They are tired of a politically correct universe. They are tired of watching the Federal government completely ignore things like immigration laws. They are tired of watching tax dollars get spent on failed programs that do nothing but benefit cronies (Solendra, Cash for Clunkers, Shovel Ready Jobs, etc).

Trump is pretty much coming in and saying: "**** your political correctness, America is for Americans, and let's start spending money to make America strong, again, by reinforcing manufacturing."

That's the essence of Trump's message. He plays the "alpha male" very well - he barks orders and gets things done. People may mock his words or argue against how he went about something, but his character and history is motivating capital assets, people, and information to accomplish a goal. People can respect that, and people gravitate toward that type of individual when they do not feel secure in their current arrangement.

I don't think Trump would be a bad President, honestly. I do, however, believe it would be a sign that America is treading down a dangerous path. There are things Trump is not saying that also concern me. Absent from many of his speeches are things like: "Constitution" and "Limited Government." Trump isn't the type of person who is going to symbolize a return to the American way of life. Trump symbolizes a return of American industrial might and interventionist policy. While I am not a staunch isolationist, I am also more Libertarian in my beliefs that action abroad should only rarely be taken by the Federal State.



At present, he is.

There are pretty much four serious candidates for the Office of the President, currently:

Donald Trump
Ben Carson
Carly Fiorina
Bernie Sanders

The robot that spoke at a Hillary fundraiser has deeper emotions than her - she just can't campaign. Unless she literally kills off every other candidate in existence, currently, she has no chance (though she would do it if she could get away with it). That, and she should be in jail.

If she is still alive when the U.S. breaks down in revolution, it is my goal to take her into custody and then deliver her to Serbia where they can figure out what to do with her. She was one of the linchpins in the plot to break up Yugoslavia and falsely implicate their nation in genocide. Twice.

Biden has talked about running... but that's just not the direction the winds are blowing.

It really comes down to Bernie Sanders versus whoever wins the nomination for the republicans. I have already promised my closest friends that, for the first time ever in my life, I will drink to the point of inebriation during the debate if it is between Trump and Sanders.



Polls are mostly name recognition, even when you get up to the final day to vote. Trump has fire - he has drummed up the Republicans. Will they actually vote for him?

If he's the Republican candidate.

The real issue is whether or not some other Republican candidate can drum up enough support -after- the primaries to carry through to the election. If you have someone who won the nomination from a much smaller primary voting block, but who doesn't motivate the average person who typically identifies as Republican in the general election - you've not actually picked the strongest candidate.



He doesn't have the support of the party establishment, really... but there is something of a revolt within the Republican/Conservative sections of the political spectrum that is rallying against the GOP. Most of the people who call themselves Republican have about had it with the party - which is part of Trump's popularity. He is running and gunning while proclaiming a message of 'hard ball' against Democrats and Republicans in the House and Senate, alike. Where the GOP establishment appears like a lap dog begging to drink the semen of Democrats/Obama - Trump is saying: "**** your couch!"

And that's what people want. They want people who are actually going to stand up and fight against what they see as the destruction of America - from the very concept of the Rule of Law to the economy to simple things like the right to not be told by the government what kind of router/modem they have to use.

Trump may only stand for part of that - but at least he is standing up and throwing punches back.

Like I said - I don't support his candidacy all that much. I think he is a Nationalist that talks way too much about what to use the power of government for as opposed to what the power of government should be limited to. I can understand the draw to him, though.

Personally, I am 100% in support of Carson. He would have to seriously **** up at this point to get me to question his candidacy. He may not be the most "alpha" among males, but he does have a record of success in leading medical teams. I'll take that. His advisers, so far, seem to be reading the climate well and that means that he seems to have picked solid advisers who have helped to keep him on track. I think he would pick a solid, honest cabinet that is going to have integrity. He and his cabinet will honestly approach problems with the goal of finding the best solution while considering that which falls within certain ideals - such as the Constitution. IE - a policy that may be advantageous but that causes damage to Constitutional limitations of power would likely be considered unacceptable barring extenuating circumstances.

That, and he's made a living where he has had to tell people that they are going to die. He's delivered bad news to people, and helped to counsel them through it. That experience is exactly what America needs. We've opted for politicians who keep telling us what we want to hear - that the tumor in our brains is going to give us super-powers one day, or whatever... People are starting to sour of it - being told that things are better than they actually are, where politicians blatantly lie to the point that even the average person is dumbfounded by the audacity. "Where is the recovery?"

Carson has told people they will die, and that it's time to make peace with it. Just like someone needs to tell this country exactly what the situation is.

You know...

Transparency.

What worries me about Trump is how he is basically promising to get 'pay back' and use the same corrupt systems to benefit a pissed off group of people more so than actually fix the corruption. His cabinet will be picked for being clever and aggressive delegates of authority who will turn the powers of the Presidency against those who have been deemed an enemy and toward accomplishing the stated objectives - with all kinds of manipulations of the laws and systems in the process.

It may get 'us' ahead in the short term... but it's a loss in the long term, in my opinion, as it will only breed further corruption of the government and further abuse of power - which is what has people so on edge at the moment to begin with.

I see the nomination coming down between Trump and Carson, with Carson picking up some serious steam as he comes out stronger on controversial issues. Except rather than simply blasting "I will build a wall!" - he will appeal to the reason behind why a border exists and what immigration controls are for - why they exist.

Which is what will end up undermining Trump's campaign in the long run. Trump is popular because he is delivering strong, unyielding positions that don't try to cater to a population that is never going to vote for a Republican, Conservative, etc. Once the other candidates figure out that they, too, can have strong ideas and win support (to be fair, Carson has long been willing to step out of line - what gained him popularity in the first place was his speech at a dinner with Obama where he mentioned Health Savings Accounts as opposed to Obamacare) - then those candidates will adopt just as unyielding of a tone with some rather staunch opinions to reflect his.

At that point, some of Trump's clout will begin to dry up, as many of the other candidates (such as Carson and Fiorina) are far more articulate and interesting people.

Further, voters can be pretty shallow. They will tend to vote for who looks most Presidential. While trump certainly looks like he could be behind a desk - he also looks like he could be a used car salesman. While that is better than Cristie, both Carson and Fiorina have him beaten out in terms of who looks Presidential.

At this point - support of the "establishment" is pretty much irrelevant. Trump's popularity pretty much firmly establishes that the "GOP establishment" is on its way out. If they somehow manage to muck with the primaries to get someone like Cristie or Bush in - the party pretty much goes into full on revolt and it wouldn't surprise me to see voters opt to recall some of their senators - literally firing them before their term is up.

Carson wasn't all that attractive to me as a candidate as he came off too soft spoken and weak. When he stated he would not have gone to war after 9/11, he further confirmed my thoughts about him and confirmed in my mind that I wouldn't vote for him.

Was the war in Iraq ultimately seen as good? Of course not, but that doesn't change what caused it and it certainly doesn't take away from what needed to be done. The war was justified and if any president decided not to go to war after that, they would have become the most disliked president in history. If he has the audacity to say he wouldn't have gone to war in that situation, he is no candidate in my mind.

I still think Rubio is the best candidate, but I'd be just fine with Fiorina. Rubio is not far behind Fiorina and, in my mind, he is showing signs of being strong, logical, sentimental, controlled and downright intelligent. He seems to represent the average man who comes from an immigrant heritage family (as a large portion of Americans do) while proving he's willing to stand up for what is right. There's more to why I think he's a good candidate, but I definitely think he'd represent us well.
 

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No. In the US they have a 2 term limit for the time you can serve as the President of the country. Obama's time will be up by next year.
Damn that's really sad
Rest in peace america
A beautifull country filled with idiotic people.
And most part is still racist :)!!!!!
(Yes every country has idiots lelele)
 
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