[VS] 1st Division Commander vs 1st Division Commander

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Cavendish will never be Marco level lol. Anyways, as Mihawk foreshadowed Luffy will make allies of the entire sea. So they won't be under Luffy's command, but rather helping Luffy by their own choice. If they don't want to, they don't have to, but they will all end up helping him. That's what a true PK should be anyways.
 

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Cavendish will never be Marco level lol. Anyways, as Mihawk foreshadowed Luffy will make allies of the entire sea. So they won't be under Luffy's command, but rather helping Luffy by their own choice. If they don't want to, they don't have to, but they will all end up helping him. That's what a true PK should be anyways.
They are under the "straw hat grand fleet"...and who is the boss of that fleet? Luffy.

Sure if they don't want to come help him.. they don't have to.. but that just means they won't be part of his fleet.
 

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You stopped taking me seriously because I showed you an example of why your logic doesn't work in shonen manga? Since when has Oda cared about experience, with that crap logic Luffy should still be weaker than Captain Kuro.

Maybe your comment shouldn't having been taken seriously because its clearly full of nonsense.
"Shōnen manga is typically characterized by high-action, often humorous plots featuring male protagonists. Such manga often portray challenges to the protagonist's abilities, skills, and maturity, stressing self-perfection, austere self-discipline, sacrifice in the cause of duty, and honorable service to society, community, family, and friends. However, none of these listed characteristics are a requirement, as seen in some shōnen manga like Yotsuba&!, which features a female lead and almost no fan service or action." - Wikipedia

You can't point to a few examples and say, "That's how shōnen manga is made. Your logic doesn't work. God tier is a must." That's just ridiculous, and, yes, that's the reason why I can't take you seriously in this discussion.
 
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