[VS] 1st Division Commander vs 1st Division Commander

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

EOS Cavendish vs. Marco

Personally I'm going with Cavendish, he's the 1st division Commander for the future Pirate King, I find it unlikely that he would be weaker than WBs First division commander.

I see it like this:
Luffy(Pirate king level)
Zoro(Yonko level)
Sanji(Admiral level)
Cavendish(Marco perhaps slightly stronger)

I see Cavendish as the Marco of the SH fleet. What do you think?

Where does law fit in this scenario ?

 

[keshav31]

EOS Cavendish vs. Marco

Personally I'm going with Cavendish, he's the 1st division Commander for the future Pirate King, I find it unlikely that he would be weaker than WBs First division commander.

I see it like this:
Luffy(Pirate king level)
Zoro(Yonko level)
Sanji(Admiral level)
Cavendish(Marco perhaps slightly stronger)

I see Cavendish as the Marco of the SH fleet. What do you think?

May be next meeting make cavandish stronger than Many of his level now and reach to a level beyond marco.As every commander of luffy is going for hellish training after they seperate.

 

[Magi]

I agree with you in the sense that I also view Cavendish as the 1st division Commander of the SH armada but I think EOS Cavendish, Barto and Don Sai will be all around the same level, able to compete with the likes of Marco. This will leave Luffy with a frighting fleet.

EOS Zoro and Sanji will be on another level

 

[U mAd]

I think you're confusing this. Marco's equivalent in the SH crew would be Zoro. Cavendish is more of an ally than a direct crewmate.

Also I don't think Cavendish will ever reach Marco's level.

agree with this.^

 

[Bogard]

While i agree that the division commanders don't work similarly to WBs, i do see Cavendish around as strong as Marco end of serie. Why? Because Sai will surpass Prime Chinjao who imo is a lower top tier fighter and Cavendish will be even stronger than that, let alone Hakuba then. Strawhat is a special crew, so i'm fairly confident that even their allies will be incredibly powerful, vastly outclassing WBs

 

[Passerby]

Robin>Cavendish
You can't compare him to Marco

 

[Forbidden Tale]

EOS Cavendish vs. Marco

Personally I'm going with Cavendish, he's the 1st division Commander for the future Pirate King, I find it unlikely that he would be weaker than WBs First division commander.

I see it like this:
Luffy(Pirate king level)
Zoro(Yonko level)
Sanji(Admiral level)
Cavendish(Marco perhaps slightly stronger)

I see Cavendish as the Marco of the SH fleet. What do you think?

What ToshiZo said, he is not 1st division commander, he is ally, just like Jinbe was to WB.

Marco wins, I can't estimate Cavendish to be that high by EOS, he is not that important member/character like Zoro and Sanji are.

Marco and EOS Zoro are better for comparing. They both are de facto First Mates of their crews.

Btw, I also see EOS Marco quite a bit stronger than MF Marco.

 

[KingHashirama]

Somebody referred to marco as whitebeards first mate.... thought it was obvious that he wasn't the first mate. The dude would be arOund shanks age when Roger was still alive.... so nah he ain't it.


ot: I would say barto is more closer to being first commander. And he probably will end up being stronger than marco

 

[bajram]

Nothing indicates that he will ever be able to reach that level, let alone beat someone like Marco, just because he is now Luffys ally doesnt mean he will ever have to fight someone as strong as Marco, his pre-final fight enemy or final fight enemy as an ally of Luffy doesnt have to be exactly an top-tier, that's wishful thinking, its not like anyone can be a top-tier, if anything his fight and also Bartolomeos EoS fight can easily be against Doflamingo +/- level opponents and nothing is weird here, they are far cry from that level currently and by EoS them fighting against Doflamingo/Jozu power level fighters is completely okay with me, just because someone is in Luffys crew or is allied with Luffy doesnt mean that he/she will immediately fight with a top-tier, that's stupid as ****, that's like saying Nami can reach the level of Doflamingo or Kuma just because she is in Luffy's crew or Chopper for example?

To answer it shortly no, not everyone is becoming a top-tier level fighter, the only ones by EoS that I see stronger than the likes of Marco or Beckman are the M3 other than that no.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Somebody referred to marco as whitebeards first mate.... thought it was obvious that he wasn't the first mate. The dude would be arOund shanks age when Roger was still alive.... so nah he ain't it.


ot: I would say barto is more closer to being first commander. And he probably will end up being stronger than marco

You do realize your first mate doesn't have to be the first member that joined? The fact that Marco was named separately from the crew by to Gorosei indicates he may be the first mate.

 

[OG sama]

Where does law fit in this scenario ?

He's Admiral + which is where Zoro is but I would say Law is stronger, I can see him besting even someone like EOS Luffy a few times.

 

[Punk Hazard]

He's Admiral + which is where Zoro is but I would say Law is stronger, I can see him besting even someone like EOS Luffy a few times.

I doubt Law will be stronger than EOS Zoro. If Zoro does become the WSM, then he'll be above Law.

 

[KingHashirama]

You do realize your first mate doesn't have to be the first member that joined? The fact that Marco was named separately from the crew by to Gorosei indicates he may be the first mate.

Marco is first commander, there is no "ben beckman", "zoro" , "Rayleigh" and etc in the crew of WB (I assume most of people from his actual core crew passed away)<<< these are true first mates. And if Marco wasn't the first , first mate.. then he isn't like Zoro at all. Only way for him to be like Zoro would be if he was the first one to join the crew.. which i highly doubt since he was a little kid when WB was in his prime.

They all fall under being his kids.

 

[loj]

For what I'v seen Im going with Marco.

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

He's Admiral + which is where Zoro is but I would say Law is stronger, I can see him besting even someone like EOS Luffy a few times.

How can EOS Law be stronger than EOS Zoro if Zoro is going to become the WSS?

 

[OG sama]

I doubt Law will be stronger than EOS Zoro. If Zoro does become the WSM, then he'll be above Law.

Isn't Law more than just a swordsman though? He uses big rooms that allow for one shot attacks. I'm probably wrong if you can correct me that would be great. Cause I probably don't know what I'm talking about.

How can EOS Law be stronger than EOS Zoro if Zoro is going to become the WSS?

I may be wrong I just dont think Law is a simple swordsman, his Ope Ope no mi allows for techniques that can one shot with just one attack. Please correct me if I'm wrong though, I just think Law has too many abilities that makes him more than just a swordsman.

 

[loj]

I think u are overrating Zoro now.If he becomes WSS it doesn't mean he will be stronger than Law.

I can see Law being a yonko.

Mihawk is WSS and would u say he is stronger than Shanks? No even though Shanks uses sword.

Law has an OP fruit too.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Isn't Law more than just a swordsman though? He uses big rooms that allow for one shot attacks. I'm probably wrong if you can correct me that would be great. Cause I probably don't know what I'm talking about.



I may be wrong I just dont think Law is a simple swordsman, his Ope Ope no mi allows for techniques that can one shot with just one attack. Please correct me if I'm wrong though, I just think Law has too many abilities that makes him more than just a swordsman.

He's not a "simple swordsman" but neither is Kaku, who uses martial arts and a DF to enhance his swordsmanship, or Diamante, or Fujitora, or even Mihawk, Zoro and Shanks for that matter if you wanna go that right because they also use Haki. But he is still a swordsman nonetheless. Enhancing his swordplay by means of his DF doesn't change that.

 

[loj]

He's not a "simple swordsman" but neither is Kaku, who uses martial arts and a DF to enhance his swordsmanship, or Diamante, or Fujitora, or even Mihawk, Zoro and Shanks for that matter if you wanna go that right because they also use Haki. But he is still a swordsman nonetheless. Enhancing his swordplay by means of his DF doesn't change that.

Do u think Mihawk is stronger than Shanks though?

 

[Punk Hazard]

Do u think Mihawk is stronger than Shanks though?

Yes I do