Character development for Nami- she was more interesting when she was introduced. Since then she is just there to show her bikini. Nami crying over random kids and getting overly sentimental and asking not to hit back even when they are attacking= lame. And while we see a gentleman Sanji sexually harassing his crew mate .... Some development for both.. And it's not even the only thing. Lately the situations where she was in compromising position - aka naked in most vulnerable poses also got added.
1.Once again this is not exclusive to Nami, all the character models in One Piece have changed. All women in One Piece have curves, and all the males got more buff. Zoro always has his shirt off and all he's been doing post timeskip is oozing manliness for the fangirls do you have a problem with that too?
2.You clearly didn't get why she was getting sentimental over the random kids....it was reminding her of her past because she was an orphan too, her leaving those kids behind would be the equivalent of Bellemere leaving Nami behind when she was a baby....this holds a special meaning to her.
3.Why did you bring Sanji up in this...we were talking about Nami's character, but it seems you can't hold back the real reason you have an issue with all of this. Not to mention this is nothing new, Sanji has always been a complete pervert did you forget about
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Her purpose is providing a background support. That's all. Keep lying to yourself that she is more important than that when it's turning into a story of the "Ds". Even her clima tact that she wielded was built by Usopp for her and her first fight with it was ugh.
And I'm asking you what everyone else in the crews purpose is aside from Luffy, Zoro, Sanji? Heck with the addition of all the new characters even Zoro and Sanji don't have much screentime anymore. And what's wrong with the clima tact being built for her lol?
You didn't like the fight where she took down an enemy considerably stronger than her? Your opinion.
There was this Boa supposed shichibukai with a tragic past- another supposed great background story- but then somehow she loses her wits completely and all her lessons from the days of slavery is forgotten or as a shichibukai interacting with males all around, when she is running after luffy like a 9 year old idiot.
She hates everybody, Luffy is an exception because he is so pure of heart he didn't care about her past. And he made enemies with the very people who made her suffer.
I don't care about power level but what's else is there to show for the adult Boa? It's simply odd that someone with that background would be this naive as Boa was shown when it came to men. There are so many of them in OP just to play a sexist stereotype and to be mocked. And yes I know sexist joke get hit with men so of course it works. The same way sexual harassment sequence is just a bit to laugh off... That's why I said Naruto is taken too seriously- people complain about stupidest things and ignore real problematic aspect of sexism right there.
lol you are looking to deep into things. Also she lives in an island where men aren't even allowed to step into, what did you expect?
And yes I was laughing at all that stuff, there are so many more issues you can find if you're trying hard to break down comedy....but ofcourse you are highlighting the "sexist" aspect.
What about being abusive? That's used for comedy as well, beating on people is wrong as well why are we laughing at that? Nami is constantly abusing the men in the crew and she gets away with it just because she is female. Do you not see how that is sexist towards males?
See I can do it too If i try and make big issues out of comedic moments......
We are supposed to feel sorry for that 'nipple in mouth dressed as a baby bad guy' by the end of Franki's fight. ( I will let another sexist joke the stupid female opponent inserted here was - with 'please take care of me' line, slide. Not even talking about 'nipple lights' kind of jokes...). But when he was introduced he was snatching bras of women away that were standing beside him. And somehow we are to feel sorry for him now that we know he was actually in love with someone at a time. I mean really? So it was just to be brushed under the carpet that he is a creep otherwise...or does it excuse his behaviour with other women around him?
Really now you have an issue with nipple lights? My God I wonder what you do when you read these chapters stop torturing yourself, this manga is probably not for you.
And yea why not? In Naruto Obito had murdered thousands upon thousands and Kishi tried to make us feel sorry for him as well. Except that murder is much worse than stealing bras from women....
And you can blame the fandoms reactions with the quality of writing, people feel bad for Senior Pink because of how well Oda is with generating emotions in his flashbacks, Obito on the other hand would be the equivalent of Doflamingo being called the coolest guy by Luffy after he whoops his ass.
Adding a tragic sob story is not everything to writing you know. Some of the sexist joke I don't even mind- But I am going to call a spade, spade.
ok.
Thanks for pointing out how most characters really don't have much to do than follow the "D". ^^ And what makes you think that each member is not playing the role in Naruto? Naruto doesn't even tell story of others unless it's to move the the main plot.
Your welcome, just trying to let you know Nami is not exclusive to this.
You know how I know each member is not playing their role in Naruto because ....um maybe I hardly see them in the manga lol? What ever happened to konoha 11?
If you are not comparing power levels then women from both mangas are in the same boat more or less- i.e. they are secondary. Otherwise , Sakura actually manage to be there in the finale fight and do something. Hinata too was fighting on the front line along with Ino. Even Tenten got to wield Sage weapons. And as a nin both of them have been doing work variously. Hinata often as part of the scouting team and Sakura as a medic. Otherwise as a team, Kakashi's team is obviously going to hog the spot light and it does.
Sakura was in the final fight hurray, lets ignore how much she kept regressing as a character because of the last few chapters where she was given shallow power ups to redeem her character. And you just said not comparing power levels and you proceed to bring up power. Ignore that Sakura was an obsessive teen at the mercy of Sasuke because she got a powerup at the end? Ok...
Nice Hinata and Ino or rather fodder #24567 and fodder #45236 were fighting on the front lines like everybody else....that's nice to know. I'd love to see them more than a panel every 7 volumes.
Lol good ol Tenten, I love how you started your paragraph with "If you are not comparing power levels" and now you keep looking at powers for redemption, who is Tenten even? She picked up Sage tools and now she is a relevant character? Is that all there is to a character to you? What about her characterization which is as stagnant as a rock. Its like Kishi put no life in her whatsoever. Her partner Neji dies and all she does is say one
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, and then she even manages to crack jokes about him moments
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all Neji meant to her was a straight man role for the Gai and Lee jokes?
Real shallow stuff.
Women in OP are all assistants and most of them are starving for attention and marriage leaving fight midway and falling for the opponent...
Is that a better written women or a better written gag? We are not even comparing the writing skills here. Just portrayal of the women. Remember that?
Uh no we were comparing writing skill because you said Nami was just as bad as Sakura, people hate Sakura because she is terribly written. You keep complaining about Naruto being taken too seriously...its not that its just Naruto is horribly written, I already said this Bleach gets even more hate than Naruto for the same reason....this isn't exclusive to Naruto shitty writing is shitty writing, there are no exceptions to this.