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How is this not a stomp? KCM Naruto was already at the level or above Kabuto arguably, adding SM just makes this an easy victory.
 

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Naruto doesn't need clones to whoop Kabtuos ass.



The clone still one shots while the real Naruto sips on some Lipton tea.

Only by overrating him.

How you go by intel decides the factor, when we factor they whole move set overall, to a limited Naruto still winning Lol

-Naruto gets overwhelm CQC once DNA is out.

-Zero counter to Dorō Dōmu

- Impossible to make a CFRS under these conditions.

And FRS gets dodged or block with Gold armor.
 

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Only by overrating him.

How you go by intel decides the factor, when we factor they whole move set overall, to a limited Naruto still winning Lol

-Naruto gets overwhelm CQC once DNA is out.

-Zero counter to Dorō Dōmu

- Impossible to make a CFRS under these conditions.

And FRS gets dodged or block with Gold armor.

-No, he doesn't.

-:lol you mean the same tech that Pt 1 Naruto and friends broke out of?

-Not really. Not like it's needed to obliterate him.

-If Naruto gets close first? No, it's not dodged. If he does what he did to Raikage to Kabuto? No, it's not dodged. If he lets it explode near him? No, it's not dodged.

Gold armor? When you got the feats that let it block FRS, get back to me. That hyperbole blocks all chakra nonsense isn't gonna fly here.
 

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-No, he doesn't.

Multiple hands that he needs to parry cause of chakra scapel? And he can't parry them either? Plus Kimmi's Taijutsu support? Parasite? Should I go on?

-:lol you mean the same tech that Pt 1 Naruto and friends broke out of?

Yup, not only is it not relevant that it was part 1, since its being powered with SM, but feats of Naruto being capable of breaking out of it is zero.

-Not really. Not like it's needed to obliterate him.

Yes really, its too heavy for Naruto to move around with it. And canon feats charge time = getting interrupted

-If Naruto gets close first? No, it's not dodged. If he does what he did to Raikage to Kabuto? No, it's not dodged. If he lets it explode near him? No, it's not dodged.

Naruto cant even imput Shishun when forming a Rasengan so that scenario is hardly possible. Kabuto is a sensor and superior reflexes then Raikage, he doesnt need to stand and dodge it in one spot. He will be as smart as Edo Chiyo and Kimmi and evade the whole spot all together. Since its not being used with Shishun.

Gold armor? When you got the feats that let it block FRS, get back to me. That hyperbole blocks all chakra nonsense isn't gonna fly here.

I dont need feats, I can go by its statement, let alone powered by SM. The armor blocks the chakra needles and Kabuto tanks the explosion.
 

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Multiple hands that he needs to parry cause of chakra scapel? And he can't parry them either? Plus Kimmi's Taijutsu support? Parasite? Should I go on?



Yup, not only is it not relevant that it was part 1, since its being powered with SM, but feats of Naruto being capable of breaking out of it is zero.



Yes really, its too heavy for Naruto to move around with it. And canon feats charge time = getting interrupted



Naruto cant even imput Shishun when forming a Rasengan so that scenario is hardly possible. Kabuto is a sensor and superior reflexes then Raikage, he doesnt need to stand and dodge it in one spot. He will be as smart as Edo Chiyo and Kimmi and evade the whole spot all together. Since its not being used with Shishun.



I dont need feats, I can go by its statement, let alone powered by SM. The armor blocks the chakra needles and Kabuto tanks the explosion.

1. Multiple hands that he can easily evade due to KCM and SM speed and reaction boosts, or hands that he can outright overpower with Rasengan and variants via chakra arms.

2. Nope. When you get evidence that it can hold Naruto w/ a simple SM boost when Pt 1 Naruto and friends wrecked it before then we can talk about this. Learn how to debate. We don't take another

3. Interrupted by what again? :lol. Whatever, doesn't matter.

4. Baseless assumption and disproven by canon where he Shunshin'd behind Raikage and tossed FRS in his back. Kabuto being superior to Raikage in reaction speed is irrelevant when KCSM Naruto>>Raikage in speed and reactions.

5. Stopped taking you seriously at the bold. Half your points consist of taking fodder techniques from Pt 1, and saying they work on KCM Naruto and his attacks because "lol SM". When Gold Armor has a feat besides getting wrecked by 64 palms, then we can talk about it taking FRS.

Though this extremely biased argumentation for Kabuto doesn't surprise me. Not one bit.
 

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You two always going at it, lol.
 

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1. Multiple hands that he can easily evade due to KCM and SM speed and reaction boosts, or hands that he can outright overpower with Rasengan and variants via chakra arms.

Chakra arms doesnt have strike speed feats to overpower him.

2. Nope. When you get evidence that it can hold Naruto w/ a simple SM boost when Pt 1 Naruto and friends wrecked it before then we can talk about this. Learn how to debate. We don't take another

But your premise is faulty reason. Naruto was a non factor, the jutsus he wanted to use to break the barrier is absorbed. So its not getting wrecked by him at all.

3. Interrupted by what again? :lol. Whatever, doesn't matter.

4. Baseless assumption and disproven by canon where he Shunshin'd behind Raikage and tossed FRS in his back. Kabuto being superior to Raikage in reaction speed is irrelevant when KCSM Naruto>>Raikage in speed and reactions

Um what? I didnt say that, I said he can't simultaneously use Shisuin with FRS.

5. Stopped taking you seriously at the bold. Half your points consist of taking fodder techniques from Pt 1, and saying they work on KCM Naruto and his attacks because "lol SM". When Gold Armor has a feat besides getting wrecked by 64 palms, then we can talk about it taking FRS.

Faulty reasoning again. The reason I said it doesn't need the feats provided to counter FRS because it already canonically counter chakra needles. The explosion itself is not relevant, and will definitely not block it for Kabuto.

Lol manga said its was blocked and your saying 64 palm rekt it. The armor works like sweat glands it was shed off, not removed by Juuken.

P.S. Gold armor feats> KCM/SM durability.

KCM/SM gets rekt by Juuken
KCM/SM gets rekt by FRS

Gold armor blocked Juuken

Though this extremely biased argumentation for Kabuto doesn't surprise me. Not one bit.
 
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Lol, is this guy claiming Naruto<Kabuto in CQC? KCM Naruto=Itachi in CQC. Itachi>>>Base Kabuto in CQC since Itachi had a 5 while Kabuto had a 3.5 in Taijutsu. Add in the fact that Naruto has far more Sage chakra then Kabuto does given his far larger reserves and his boost in SM is larger then Kabuto's. So now he's>>>>>DSM Kabuto by scaling. Let's also not forget clones, chakra arms, higher durability, superior sensing due to negative emotion sensing and SM sensing, much, much faster, superior strength, etc.
 

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Chakra arms doesnt have strike speed feats to overpower him.

Strike speed and overpowering don't go in the same category. :lol If Kabuto attacks, he gets overpowered. The only way he doesn't is if chakra scalpel>Rasengan, or he's so fast that he tags Naruto before Naruto can react.



But your premise is faulty reason. Naruto was a non factor, the jutsus he wanted to use to break the barrier is absorbed. So its not getting wrecked by him at all.

No, it's not. Why don't you cut the wank already?

1. The barrier doesn't absorb chakra from jutsu. It absorbs chakra from the people inside.

2. Even w/o jutsu, Naruto's physical attacks in Kyuubi Sage Mode when using chakra arms are FAR above anything that the wall has ever blocked. Naruto easily breaks out of it with zero effort.

3. He can't even catch Naruto in it, something you probably didn't think I'd mention since you never bothered to explain how Kabuto catches him.


Um what? I didnt say that, I said he can't simultaneously use Shisuin with FRS.

Which. Is. Baseless. Once again.


Faulty reasoning again. The reason I said it doesn't need the feats provided to counter FRS because it already canonically counter chakra needles. The explosion itself is not relevant, and will definitely not block it for Kabuto.

Lol terrible reasoning. FRS>>>>Whatever chakra needle is canonically countered, thus Gold Armor does not block FRS.

Lol manga said its was blocked and your saying 64 palm rekt it. The armor works like sweat glands it was shed off, not removed by Juuken.
1. Pretty sure it was broken when it fell off.
2. Doesn't change your point.

P.S. Gold armor feats> KCM/SM durability.

KCM/SM gets rekt by Juuken
KCM/SM gets rekt by FRS

Gold armor blocked Juuken

Shit logic that doesn't prove anything. This amounts to you saying Gold Armor tanks FRS because it's more durable than KCM and because it blocked a much weaker attack.
 

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Lol, is this guy claiming Naruto<Kabuto in CQC? KCM Naruto=Itachi in CQC. Itachi>>>Base Kabuto in CQC since Itachi had a 5 while Kabuto had a 3.5 in Taijutsu.

SMH. Naruto also had 3.5 in Tajutsu, while Kabuto faced Tsunade with 2.5 in Taijutsu when she had 5. And at the same time KCM doesn't give you a Taijutsu boost. So you made no point here.

At this point Naruto Taijutsu increase in Pain arc training (because of SM training). And Kabuto behind the scenes, training with his new body[ ] and senjutsu training. So even then their skills increase during that time frame.

Plus I factored Kabuto utilizing D'N'A along with CQC as it's much more dangerous then just engaging with just chakra scalpel like he did to Itachi. Something Itachi would get the same treatment against too, but thats for another thread.

Add in the fact that Naruto has far more Sage chakra then Kabuto does given his far larger reserves and his boost in SM is larger then Kabuto's. So now he's>>>>>DSM Kabuto by scaling. Let's also not forget clones, chakra arms, higher durability, superior sensing due to negative emotion sensing and SM sensing, much, much faster, superior strength, etc.

Having more chakra is irrelevant. Juugo's DNA enables him to to keep Sage on a "charger". So even if Naruto has 100 percent "battery" while Kabuto has 50%, it doesn't matter since Naruto's battery will eventually run out before Kabuto's "battery" thats keeps charging at 50%.

@Bold: Baseless claim, SM boost doesn't go by reserves. It was never ever implied.

@Underline: Clones? Who cares they can be taken care of, let alone 1. Manda 2 rekts if anything. Or Kabuto uses clones too balence it out, while were at it (base off DB).

Chakra arms? Only usefulness it had in the manga was to surprise the opponent cause of its unexpected hit box.

Higher durability? Not relevant to Kabuto's move-sets.

Superior sense? Fine. Still doesnt determine the match when looking at overall moveset, to someone who has 90% of his arsenal restricted.

Speed? Only his body flicker is a temporal threat, and doesnt determine the match when looking at overall moveset, to someone who has 90% of his arsenal restricted.

Strength? Having Jirobo's talents and abilitiles puts them in rivalry or superior then Naruto.

Strike speed and overpowering don't go in the same category. :lol If Kabuto attacks, he gets overpowered. The only way he doesn't is if chakra scalpel>Rasengan, or he's so fast that he tags Naruto before Naruto can react.

Um yes it does. For him to get overpowered the attack has to be fast enough to catch him. Um no, stop ignoring everything else I mention. I stated with DNA activated he beats Naruto CQC. Not just Kabuto and his chakra scalpel.

So you have to factor both Kabuto w/ scalpel along with Sound 5 CQC move-set and fighting style. Heck even Orochimaru's body fluids exposed




No, it's not. Why don't you cut the wank already?

1. The barrier doesn't absorb chakra from jutsu. It absorbs chakra from the people inside.

2. Even w/o jutsu, Naruto's physical attacks in Kyuubi Sage Mode when using chakra arms are FAR above anything that the wall has ever blocked. Naruto easily breaks out of it with zero effort.

3. He can't even catch Naruto in it, something you probably didn't think I'd mention since you never bothered to explain how Kabuto catches him.

1. Didnt imply it did, you know damn well of that. absorbing chakra from people = Naruto not being able to form Rasengan.

2. Being stronger attack isn't the reason why p1 characters broke out of the barrier. Breaking the wall was not their problem, the regeneration process is what messed them up. So no, not with feats its not going to shatter the dome by simply punching it. Even then, nothing is stopping Kabuto using Muki Tensei to bind his movements via crushing him. Or sending Bone forest underneath.

3. Muki Tensei or Jirobo palm quake would be capable of loosing his footing.

Which. Is. Baseless. Once again.

Whatever. All of his fights, forming Rasengan doesn't move the same speed as his body flicker.


Lol terrible reasoning. FRS>>>>Whatever chakra needle is canonically countered, thus Gold Armor does not block FRS.

No evidence for your claim of superiority.


1. Pretty sure it was broken when it fell off.
2. Doesn't change your point.

1. Nope
2. Yes it does, you claim it was destroyed by 64 palm. Thats false. You claim that FRS needles are superior then Juuken needles. No evidence for that claim.

Shit logic that doesn't prove anything. This amounts to you saying Gold Armor tanks FRS because it's more durable than KCM and because it blocked a much weaker attack.

I said Gold armor tanks the needles. The wind gale of FRS never destroyed a persons body so, at best it will destroy the armor while Kabuto recovers, with safe chakra network.
 

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How is this not a stomp? KCM Naruto was already at the level or above Kabuto arguably, adding SM just makes this an easy victory.
Now your overrating Kabuto completely here.

Lol, is this guy claiming Naruto<Kabuto in CQC? KCM Naruto=Itachi in CQC. Itachi>>>Base Kabuto in CQC since Itachi had a 5 while Kabuto had a 3.5 in Taijutsu. .
Itachi does beat base Kabuto in a cqc fight since he didn't have a problem fighting DSM Kabuto in cqc. Your explanation is completely terrible though. Gated gai has a 5 in Taijutsu does that mean him and Itachi are equal nope. DB Taijutsu stats are pointless to even bring up.
 
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SMH. Naruto also had 3.5 in Tajutsu, while Kabuto faced Tsunade with 2.5 in Taijutsu when she had 5. And at the same time KCM doesn't give you a Taijutsu boost. So you made no point here.

At this point Naruto Taijutsu increase in Pain arc training (because of SM training). And Kabuto behind the scenes, training with his new body[ ] and senjutsu training. So even then their skills increase during that time frame.

The stats are what the stats are fam. Naruto and Kabuto having the same stats means after SM they'd be roughly equal had Naruto not learned Frog Kata (making him more proficient in fighting then Kabuto). Then you add in KCM boost and you realise he stomps. And I do very much hope I did not just read the bold. KCM increased Naruto's reaction speed to the point where he could evade v2 Ay's Shunshin. That's a huge factor in CQC. KCM gives Naruto the ability to sense chakra and negative emotions, second boost. Chakra arms effectively allow him to overwhelm his opponent with numbers and power. KCM increases his speed dramatically since he's utilising the Kyuubi's chakra rather then his own. Just like getting Rikudo chakra amplifies all your stats; reaction speed, movement speed, ninjutsu, striking speed, etc. Kyuubi's chakra also amplifies all your stats. So Naruto's striking speed definitely improved hugely. Durability would also be a large factor, he took the steam kick to the face without actual damage, he took Ay's punches with no damage, etc. Next up is strength where KCM Naruto was capable of keeping the Yonbi's mouth from closing on him with pure strength. Please don't spout bullshit like this again.

Plus I factored Kabuto utilizing D'N'A along with CQC as it's much more dangerous then just engaging with just chakra scalpel like he did to Itachi. Something Itachi would get the same treatment against too, but thats for another thread.


Having more chakra is irrelevant. Juugo's DNA enables him to to keep Sage on a "charger". So even if Naruto has 100 percent "battery" while Kabuto has 50%, it doesn't matter since Naruto's battery will eventually run out before Kabuto's "battery" thats keeps charging at 50%.

Naruto only needs to have his clone close its eyes for 1 seconds and go poof. Now Naruto is once again far superior to Kabuto. Being an infinitely lasting battery with 5 amps is inferior to a continuously rechargeable battery with 100 amps.

@Bold: Baseless claim, SM boost doesn't go by reserves. It was never ever implied.

It doesn't need to be implied, more Senjutsu chakra means greater boost. It's called logic.

@Underline: Clones? Who cares they can be taken care of, let alone 1. Manda 2 rekts if anything. Or Kabuto uses clones too balence it out, while were at it (base off DB).

How are clones ever even being touched lmao? They have SM sensing and KCM+SM reaction speed. Far faster then Kabuto. Extremely durable. They are not being dealt with in any possible way. COFRS one shots Manda II and we're back to square one. And Kabuto has clones? Since when? As far as I recall the only clones he used where anime snake clones. I'll need some proof if you want to continue making this claim, and even then it's not going to make a difference when Naruto's clones are far stronger and can be made in far larger numbers.

Chakra arms? Only usefulness it had in the manga was to surprise the opponent cause of its unexpected hit box.

What? It's an additional limb. It shits on Kabuto in CQC any day of the week due to its immense strength..

Higher durability? Not relevant to Kabuto's move-sets.

Actually, very relevant. Bones aren't affecting Naruto, he'll have a far harder time putting him down.

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uperior sense? Fine. Still doesnt determine the match when looking at overall moveset, to someone who has 90% of his arsenal restricted.

Kabuto can't do shit with his overall move set since it's all countered by Naruto. Please tell me what you are suggesting is putting Naruto down as a part of his overall match-up because I guarantee you nothing will.

Speed? Only his body flicker is a temporal threat, and doesnt determine the match when looking at overall moveset, to someone who has 90% of his arsenal restricted.

Don't need to say the same thing over and over. Anyways, Naruto's Shunshin is still a huge factor in every fight whether you like it or not.

Strength? Having Jirobo's talents and abilitiles puts them in rivalry or superior then Naruto.

Lol what? He doesn't have Jirobo's strength.

Now your overrating Kabuto completely here.


Itachi does beat base Kabuto in a cqc fight since he didn't have a problem fighting DSM Kabuto in cqc. Your explanation is completely terrible though. Gated gai has a 5 in Taijutsu does that mean him and Itachi are equal nope. DB Taijutsu stats are pointless to even bring up.

Terrible to bring up when you're comparing several people with a 5. When one has a 3.5 and the other has a 5(+) then both of them getting a boost would make it 5(+) and 6.5(+), they'd scale equally in the only way we can quantify them. So if Itachi was ONLY a borderline 5, Naruto is too. Give him SM and he gets a greater boost then Kabuto since Kabuto doesn't do Frog Kumite. So there'd be literally no way to suggest Kabuto=KCSM Naruto when KCSM Naruto>>>>Kabuto in CQC by stats and portrayal.
 
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1. Didnt imply it did, you know damn well of that. absorbing chakra from people = Naruto not being able to form Rasengan.

2. Being stronger attack isn't the reason why p1 characters broke out of the barrier. Breaking the wall was not their problem, the regeneration process is what messed them up. So no, not with feats its not going to shatter the dome by simply punching it. Even then, nothing is stopping Kabuto using Muki Tensei to bind his movements via crushing him. Or sending Bone forest underneath.

3. Muki Tensei or Jirobo palm quake would be capable of loosing his footing.

You sound ridiculous. The wall only regenerated because their attacks were too weak to bust through. Literally the same concept as any regenerating person vs. an attack. If the attack obliterates them in one shot or is used at too fast a rate for it to regen completely, Naruto easily breaks free.

So yes. Multiple Sage KCM Chakra Arms easily busts through this wall when it was almost getting wrecked by weaker attacks, and when Naruto breaks giant stones in regular KCM with his gripping strength let alone his full effort. Not to mention it's weaker either where Kabuto is, or at the opposite end. Naruto was present. He knows the jutsu's weakness. He easily breaks out.

-Muki Tensei isn't possible, and Naruto would break out long before anything that could seriously injure him got him.

3. Muki Tensei isn't possible in a forest. Grass and trees are organic. Soil contains some organic properties. Kabuto can only control inorganic material. Either way, evading Muki Tensei isn't hard when he has dozens of trees around the area to bounce from. So no, this dome never catches him. Ever.



Whatever. All of his fights, forming Rasengan doesn't move the same speed as his body flicker.

Why in the hell would he have to form it while he's moving when he can form it and then move?

No evidence for your claim of superiority.


When your chakra needle vaporizes Human Bodies, vaporizes the tops of large hills and does more damage to Kurama than 25 Chou Oodama Rasengan, then we can talk. Until then you have no point.


Not relevant either way. Gold Armor has zero feat that'd let it take FRS.

2. Yes it does, you claim it was destroyed by 64 palm. Thats false. You claim that FRS needles are superior then Juuken needles. No evidence for that claim.

Scans of Juuken doing anything near FRS when it comes to DC? Oh wait, they don't exist.



I said Gold armor tanks the needles. The wind gale of FRS never destroyed a persons body so, at best it will destroy the armor while Kabuto recovers, with safe chakra network.

Human Path disagrees. :lol FRS vaporizes Kabuto along with his armor. This is only an argument because you like to take fodder techniques and then hype them up to unbelievable levels with the claim "Sm boost" as your only evidence. Get me feats or don't bother replying because you already know how this will go down.
 

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The stats are what the stats are fam. Naruto and Kabuto having the same stats means after SM they'd be roughly equal had Naruto not learned Frog Kata (making him more proficient in fighting then Kabuto). Then you add in KCM boost and you realise he stomps. And I do very much hope I did not just read the bold. KCM increased Naruto's reaction speed to the point where he could evade v2 Ay's Shunshin. That's a huge factor in CQC. KCM gives Naruto the ability to sense chakra and negative emotions, second boost. Chakra arms effectively allow him to overwhelm his opponent with numbers and power. KCM increases his speed dramatically since he's utilising the Kyuubi's chakra rather then his own. Just like getting Rikudo chakra amplifies all your stats; reaction speed, movement speed, ninjutsu, striking speed, etc. Kyuubi's chakra also amplifi all your stats. So Naruto's striking speed definitely improved hugely. Durability would also be a large factor, he took the steam kick to the face without actual damage, he took Ay's punches with no damage, etc. Next up is strength where KCM Naruto was capable of keeping the Yonbi's mouth from closing on him with pure strength. Please don't spout bullshit like this again.

Never said anything wrong about stats. But what you are doing is misusing it. They werent = in SM. Kabuto can react to Susanoo arrow, while Naruto can react to V1 body flicker, when Arrow>V1. So they weren't roughly = when Kabuto shown his base stats were better then Naruto's. Read that Bold loud and clear. KCM gives him better reacted due to his speed boost, correct. But in no way does that make his Taijutsu skills better. Once in close combat, short burst of speed becomes irrelevant. It just makes him react to attacks better not his hand speed or even leg striking speed. Otherwise I would have to use that logic that Itachi = KCM in bodyflicker too.

Naruto only needs to have his clone close its eyes for 1 seconds and go poof. Now Naruto is once again far superior to Kabuto. Being an infinitely lasting battery with 5 amps is inferior to a continuously rechargeable battery with 100 amps.

Nope your making up baseless claims to support your point. You have no evidence on how long it takes his clone to gather natural energy but it sure as hell keeps its weakness, that it needs to stay till and gather it. Its not happening in this match up.

It doesn't need to be implied, more Senjutsu chakra means greater boost. It's called logic.

So basically you are dodging since you have no evidence. More Senjutsu chakra means you can use more senjutsu chakra. Its called you being illogical.

How are clones ever even being touched lmao? They have SM sensing and KCM+SM reaction speed. Far faster then Kabuto. Extremely durable. They are not being dealt with in any possible way. COFRS one shots Manda II and we're back to square one. And Kabuto has clones? Since when? As far as I recall the only clones he used where anime snake clones. I'll need some proof if you want to continue making this claim, and even then it's not going to make a difference when Naruto's clones are far stronger and can be made in far larger numbers.

Addressed first 2 sentence via first point. Clones go poof by any direct hits it gets so no they aren't durable.

They are many ways it can be dealt with especially when its 1 clone: Bone forest, Muki Tensei, and Manda 2 gives him battle field control. Speed burst only helps evade but not all 3 in a combo.

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Utilising the power of senjutsu, Kabuto is able to freely use the abilities, talents, and kekkei genkai of the shinobi whose DNA he integrates within himself. As a strategic alternative, he can instead channel their collective abilities into mindless clones, respective to each shinobi, that are generated through his naval snake.

He is freely able to use Orochimaru's abilities and talents. Orochimaru can use Shadow Clones.

Lol @ underline, you still arguing with unrestricted Naruto.

What? It's an additional limb. It shits on Kabuto in CQC any day of the week due to its immense strength..

Except Kabuto dances around it much like much like Shin did against BSM Naruto. Worst case scenario parry and swaps them away due to DNA activated. Jirobo+Sakon's ta-ren-ken combo

Actually, very relevant. Bones aren't affecting Naruto, he'll have a far harder time putting him down.

Bones are piercing Naruto with ease, when a mere blade can pierce BSM Naruto. And bones KKG are superior

Kabuto can't do shit with his overall move set since it's all countered by Naruto. Please tell me what you are suggesting is putting Naruto down as a part of his overall match-up because I guarantee you nothing will.

Nope just you overrating.

-Naruto doesnt have summons that gives him enough time to charge a CFRS, so thats out the picture.
-Can't counter Manda 2

-Bone forest, even if he escape its range, which they pretty much can spawn unorthodox locations, it gives him field control that 1 clone and Naruto can't handle

- CQC combat becomes too dangerous because of Sound 5, Orochimaru five prolong seal or body poison exposed.

- Ease field control via Muki Tensi and Webs place on floors for booby traps.

Waay to many things that sets up Naruto, and fails to put Kabuto down.

Don't need to say the same thing over and over. Anyways, Naruto's Shunshin is still a huge factor in every fight whether you like it or not.

Addressed.

Lol what? He doesn't have Jirobo's strength.

Gave Databook with translation.


Ill come after you later. I aint tryna wirte all of text by replying to 2 people.
 

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How am I overrating Kabuto? I said KCM Naruto can beat him, let alone KCSM Naruto.
Regular KM Naruto gets ruined i take back what i said Kabuto wins this match up.
 
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