Clearing up a misconception : Naruto blitzing Kaguya.

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If someone punched a drugged man, it doesn't mean they can do the same to him if he wasn't drugged.
If someone kills a drugged man, that doesn't mean they can kill that man even when not under drugs.
If someone beats a drugged man, that doesn't mean they could have done the same if he wasn't in that state

Context matters. I don't need to deny that the action happened to them when I'm arguing that it wouldn't happen under different circumstances.
What you are saying has nothing to do with morals btw.

So because she was low on chakara, that means she wasn't blitzed?
 

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Sasuke had help against a full powered kaguya.

Your argument is invalid.

Naruto hit a non weakened Kaguya twice and blitzed her once

Sasuke didn't touch her, once, weakened, non weakened or full power


I asked for a scan where Naruto had help
 

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Naruto hit a non weaken Kaguya twice


I asked for a scan where Naruto had help

Know the difference between blitzing and hitting.

Scans are already posted on OP with detailed explanation no need to post them again.
 

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Know the difference between blitzing and hitting.

Scans are already posted on OP with detailed explanation no need to post them again.

I know the difference between blitzing and hitting :|

Just throwing out there the fact the Naruto held his own and Kaguya was using Chakra while Sasuke was chilling at the beach. Not only that Kaguya was using her chakra against Naruto. He used Ameno, caught off guard and she still evaded. You keep making dumb ass excuses. I read the OP and don't care for it tbh


I asked you to pinpoint, show, or locate in a scan where Naruto had help.
 

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Yet you have not responded to the other thread. Carry along now before you burnt again

What other thread? You've engaged me in probably a dozen ones now.

I'm also using mobile, been traveling most of today, and have an attention span that can shift to multiple, varying things. All threads stop at some point, me not responding doesn't mean anything. Why do you insist in throwing shots when you're no good at it?
 

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I know the difference between blitzing and hitting :|

Just throwing out there the fact the Naruto held his own and Kaguya was using Chakra while Sasuke was chilling at the beach. Not only that Kaguya was using her chakra against Naruto. He used Ameno, caught off guard and she still evaded. You keep making dumb ass excuses. I read the OP and don't care for it tbh


I asked you to pinpoint, show, or locate in a scan where Naruto had help.

You obviously don't.

Naruto can't blitz kaguya under normal circumstances but he can normally land hits on her due to his striking speed.

I don't know why you keep bringing up sasuke, naruto obviously has better striking speed since he's the one with the sage body also the place sasuke was stuck in wasn't a beach just so you know.

That's why I told yoy to read the OP which pin points exactly what you want.
 

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What other thread? You've engaged me in probably a dozen ones now.

I'm also using mobile, been traveling most of today, and have an attention span that can shift to multiple, varying things. All threads stop at some point, me not responding doesn't mean anything. Why do you insist in throwing shots when you're no good at it?

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Don't know where why you're self proclaiming yourself to be a good debater when you can't even present manga facts to support your argument(s). You speak based on predilection and that doesn't win you debates buddy
 

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You obviously don't.


Herp derp diz guy kepz drawlin stupid azz conclusionzis after I done explained y I brought up whtz I deed in mi lazt pst so letz mi clarifees

Blitzing: using speed to overcome your opponent to the point where they can barely or cannot react
Hitting: Inflicting physical harm or damage to someone

Need more definitions?
:|


Naruto can't blitz kaguya under normal circumstances but he can normally land hits on her due to his striking speed.
Please quote where I stated the bold


I don't know why you keep bringing up sasuke, naruto obviously has better striking speed since he's the one with the sage body also the place sasuke was stuck in wasn't a beach just so you know.

*facepalm*
Because Sasuke was mentioned in the OP, did you even read?


That's why I told yoy to read the OP which pin points what you want exactly.
I want you to show where he had help, why can't you do something so simple? You made a claim, now back it up

Answers in the bolded
 

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Sorry if replying in such a way is inconvenient, it's much easier for me. =D
Can you not do that? Just break it up into quotes. it makes things alot easier on both ends.

That's just jumping to conclusions. Doesn't seem like needed to do it when he teleported Madara
Yeah because he communicated with naruto to do that.
Also jumping to conclusions. Naruto has constantly been shown to tell Naruto "now" whenever he wanted him to use the Yin-Yang seal.
This isn't even a counter. This just supports my argument. :lol
We also don't know about that, for all we know Sasuke could have used Ameno more times when he was trying to escape Kaguya dimensions or maybe to cool down is only needed after switching places withs something. Both interpretations much just as much sense
@The underline. Speculation.
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and then he saids his eye powers are back. Meaning sasuke was in a cooldown.
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Well, you certainly do not have proof they didn't :p
If they did. Then they wouldn't need to communicate at all. :| :| :|

The gravity was still affecting them though. And it wouldn't make the chidori faster as he still needed to step forward
After kaguya adjusted the gravity. Kakashi and obito friggin ran to naruto and sasukes spot in this "heavy gravity" :|. Plus she switched the regular gravity in the middle of the chidori swing so no buts there.

Honestly, What's so hard to believe that naruto blitz a weakened kaguya?
 
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Don't know where why you're self proclaiming yourself to be a good debater when you can't even present manga facts to support your argument(s). You speak based on predilection and that doesn't win you debates buddy

First you're talking about me not responding, then you're talking about me not posting a scan, then you're talking about being a good debater? This use what I'm talking about. Ad hominem already ducks you up, it's worse when it's as incoherent as this.

You asked for a scan of Sasuke reacting to Ameno. I told you that's not needed because every scan of Sasuke using Ameno is him reacting to it. It's not my fault if you can't understand such a simple concept. I repeat, EVERY SCAN OF HIM USING AMENO IS HIM REACTING TO IT. Do you have any memories of Sasuke using Ameno? There's your scan. Go be short bus somewhere else now.
 

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First you're talking about me not responding, then you're talking about me not posting a scan, then you're talking about being a good debater? This use what I'm talking about. Ad hominem already ducks you up, it's worse when it's as incoherent as this.

You asked for a scan of Sasuke reacting to Ameno. I told you that's not needed because every scan of Sasuke using Ameno is him reacting to it. It's not my fault if you can't understand such a simple concept. I repeat, EVERY SCAN OF HIM USING AMENO IS HIM REACTING TO IT. Do you have any memories of Sasuke using Ameno? There's your scan. Go be short bus somewhere else now.

So since Minato uses FTG he can react to it
So since Tobiarama uses FTG he can react to it
So since every ninja uses Body Flicker, they can react to it
So since Sasuke used Ameno, he can react to it (which he didn't against Kaguya)
So since Ay uses his own speed that means he can react to it



This shitty post is just as bad as your shitty logic since I already told you Sasuke failed to react to Kaguya's Ameno
 

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Answers in the bolded

First of all you need to calm yourself no need to go 12 years old.

For starters you keep implying That Naruto blitzed Kaguya which is true but because of reasons explained in the OP and for some reason they're hard for you to understand

1- Kaguya was weakened

2-Sasuke teleported him. This is classified as help

As stated in the OP.

Now to deal with your other bolds.

1-When I said you don't know the difference between blitzing and hitting I was pointing out that Naruto was able to hit Kaguya but not blitz like your post is implying but if you didn't imply it then my bad.

2-Minato was also mentioned so does that mean I should quote you about his failed attempt to hit madara and how he was chilling at the beach in a childish manner?

3- answered above and also on OP.
 

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Can you not do that? Just break it up into quotes. it makes things alot easier on both ends.

Ok then.

Yeah because he communicated with naruto to do that.

Ok, and what exactly does that mean ?

This isn't even a counter. This just supports my argument. :lol

... Wasn't your argument that Ssauke needed to concentrate his eye to teleport people or am I misunderstanding something ?
@The underline. Speculation.
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and then he saids his eye powers are back. Meaning sasuke was in a cooldown.

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Not as much of a speculation as it is basic reasoning. Someone with a space-time power being stuck in a separate dimension and exhausting himself doing something to escape, what could that something be if not trying to use S-T teleportation ? It's speculation of people to categorically claim that Sasuke can only use his ability 3 times before needing to cool-down when the circumstances of that cool-down are unclear and open for interpretations. We know for a fact that he used it 4 times after that cool down anyway.

If they did. Then they wouldn't need to communicate at all. :| :| :|

Sasuke and Naruto were linked by Kyuubi cloaks before, that didn't stop them from communicating even though Naruto could clearly resort to telepathy lol

After kaguya adjusted the gravity. Kakashi and obito friggin ran to naruto and sasukes spot in this "heavy gravity" :|. Plus she switched the regular gravity in the middle of the chidori swing so no buts there.

We literally have no idea what Kaguya means by "I fixed it". It's anyone's guess how she fixed it. Naruto was still unable to move and struggled just to get up, if I were to guess Kaguya just made it some that more chakra = more affected. That would explain why she was unable to even move while Naruto and Sasuke could stand up and Obito and Kakashi run.
Honestly, What's so hard to believe that naruto blitz a weakened kaguya?
Nothing. I'm just trying to explore different paths if there is a reason to do so.
 
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First of all you need to calm yourself no need to go 12 years old.

Then learn how to read

For starters you keep implying That Naruto blitzed Kaguya which is true but because of reasons explained in the OP and for some reason they're hard for you to understand

Ok, so if we can accept that Kaguya was blitzed, then what was the reasoning for the thread being made? It doesn't matter if it was 2 v 1 because I can guarantee you that if the roles were reversed, then this thread would not have been made, excluding Nardo faps


1- Kaguya was weakened
Irrelevant, she was blitzed. Let me make the same excuse for Shin's dad, he wasn't at full power after using his dojutsu, so should discredit Sasuke blitzing him?

2-Sasuke teleported him. This is classified as help
And this is where your argument turns to garbage, just because the OP states that he did, doesn't mean that's what happenong seeing as how the OP is not Kishimoto. It's already been debunked anyway, Naruto turned his feat and jumped up. Even after losing an arm and being weakened even more, Sasuke still couldn't blitz her, nice try tho.



1-When I said you don't know the difference between blitzing and hitting I was pointing out that Naruto was able to hit Kaguya but not blitz like your post is implying but if you didn't imply it then my bad.
Ok

2-Minato was also mentioned so does that mean I should quote you about his failed attempt to hit madara and how he was chilling at the beach in a childish manner?
I don't care, do what you want, don't see how that will help your premise

3- answered above and also on OP.



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1- I know how to read, you just don't have manners.

2-Kaguya being weakened is irrelevant? Oh boy.

3- not because OP said so, it's because the SFX of sasuke's ameno is there so unless naruto has a s/t jutsu I don't know about then naruto was teleported regardless of what fanfic you resort too.

Unless you have a reason for why the SFX was there, you're just denying the manga.

4-If by "do what you want" you mean replying to you with things that have nothing to do with your post in a childish manner then no thanks, I am above such things.
 

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1- I know how to read, you just don't have manners.
Apparently you don't

2-Kaguya being weakened is irrelevant? Oh boy.
Did Naruto blitz Kaguya yes or no? You also didn't respond to my example


3- not because OP said so, it's because the SFX of sasuke's ameno is there so unless naruto has a s/t jutsu we don't I don't know about then naruto was teleported regardless of what fanfic you resort too.

Unless you have a reason for why the SFX was there, you're just denying the manga.
NB's rebuttals and arguments have degraded so much since most of the intelligible debaters left. Since when do we used SFX to prove an argument? Since when (Pre Gaiden) was Sasuke shown to able to teleport people to specific locations?

The same SFX was used when Naruto brought up his cloak as well as shown in previous posts. Your argument is invalid


4-If by "do what you want" you mean replying to you with things that have nothing to do with your post in a childish manner then no thanks, I am above such things.
Yet you're trying to use SFX to prove that Naruto was teleported when it's already been established that he wasn't :lmao:
ok


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