So what did you base Sanji being weaker before the ts on ?
bottom rookies pre skip showed no feats that Sanji cant pull off.
The fact that he wasn't consider a super rookie and oda did it for a reason. I know its based off bounty but oda could of easily made him a supernova but he didn't for a reason like I said.
Not really. I would argue that people underestimate Vergo a lot more over his one shot defeat from Law.
No, I don't and I never implied that. I said that the SH's went through more of a training process than the other supernova's did, which is most likely true. The supernova title is irrelevant to strength, it's bounty based. A high bounty doesn't correlate to strength all the time and Oda himself said so in an SBS. Of course it sounds stupid to you since it goes against your hate for Sanji.
There's very little evidence to support that. It's pretty pointless since we know very little of what the other supernovas can do and Sanji hasn't shown everything he's got as well. Luffy got his powerup, so it's likely that Sanji & Zoro will get their powerups as well.
I never seen peoplen underestimating him but then again I don't vist the op section frequently until now.
First don't don't make baseless claims saying I hate sanji because I don't. I love all the sh equaly. Sanji is just not strong enough to beat them. Just like you said bounty doesn't always tell how strong you are like with robin and chopper but in this case it does. It clear oda wanted to show who was the strongest of the worst generation going into the new world by making them supernovas. It doesn't matter if the SH trained more. People still consider kidd and luffy to be around the same strength just like before the ts.
Sanji got destroyed by doffy and was going to lose to vergo just under high diff. I'm not saying we seen his full strength but its not as great as people think it is considering this. I'm not saying the other supernova would beat doffy, the low teir super rookies would lose just as easily but they would lose to vergo extreme diff. I believe sanji loses to capone and the rest of them high diff. In my opinon this is how I see things. If you could give a reason to why you think sanji is stronger I would love to hear it.
We will see what happens next week.
So just because he doesn't name kidd makes Sanji unable to beat the other guys ?
I think the point in this post is clear and that the consensus is that Sanji can beat most of the supernova. Unless you can prove otherwise your post is just enough for people not to believe a word either.
You can turn this around all day long on other people trying to prove you wrong. How about you prove us right.
You're already so deep into this, I can't wait for this fight to happen in the manga. Do you realize what a fool you made out of yourself if Sanji wins now XD
But I have nothing to lose because you already deem Sanji weaker with the Zoro fan club, but if he wins he is up there with his buddy Zoro and Luffy and Law in the same list of people.
Exciting times next Thursday.
No I'm just not going to listen to a guy that thinks sanji could beat kidd that's insane. That's not why I believe sanji can't beat any of them. I said why sanji is not stronger already but people insist on asking why. You got any reason for me to believe sanjI can beat the supernovas?
I don't care about what the majority think. No one has provided a valid reason to why sanji would be stronger.
Why would I prove you right? That doesn't even make sense.
If Sanji wins good for him, imo it would still be stupid if he won. None of the supernovas should lose to a someone at sanji's level. This thread is not a zoro vs sanji thread so i don't know why you're bringing it up. Sanji beating a lower ranked supernovas doesn't put him at Zoro's level, any top supernovas would beat him mid diff but that's another discussion for another day.
hopefully it would be a good chapter.
