[Debate] Should Fathers Have A Say In Abortion?

Do Women Have The Right To Ignore The Fathers wishes and abort?

  • Yes. Its her body and her life.

    Votes: 2 7.7%
  • No, the abortion should be of a mutual consent between both father and mother.

    Votes: 22 84.6%
  • Indifferent

    Votes: 2 7.7%

  • Total voters
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Hashirama Senjuu

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not unless he wants to carry the baby for the 9 months
oh w8...

but tbh
no one should have to have/raise a child they don't want
i also believe that fathers who don't want the child while the mother does, should be able to sign his rights away so he doesn't have to pay child support

but it should be under certain circumstances

he has to sign before the baby is born, and if the prego woman doesn't tell him about the baby (tries to surprise him and demand child support), he should still be allowed to sign if he doesn't want the kid

like here are some examples-

1-girl wants to trap bf by breaking condom/stopping birth control so she gets prego, bf doesn't want the baby, but girl isn't aborting so her and bf will always be 'tied' to each other. bf should be able to sign his rights away

2- gf and bf find out gf is prego, they are both excited but after the baby is born, bf wants to leave gf for another woman or w/e and doesn't want anything to do with the baby now. he shouldn't be able to sign away and should be stuck with child support

this is really tricky tho and has a lot of issues that could happen
ignore me lol
You're just ****ed up. No parent has the right to neglect their child *****.
 

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The woman can do the same. Sign away rights to the kid after its born and give it to the dad. 18 years of emotional, financial, moral and general support seems like a preeeetty fair trade off for 9 months of carrying the child. I mean, if there can be laws that forces a father who wants nothing to do with the kid to pay child support for 18 years or until the woman is married, then I see nothing wrong with a law saying the woman has to carry the child for 9 months and then she can be rid of it from her life.
that could work too, but pregnancy is REALLY rough on a woman's body. some just wouldn't want to carry a child for 9 months.

You're just ****ed up. No parent has the right to neglect their child *****.
Stfu lmfao
 

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Didn't read the other comments so idk if somone said it before.

If the woman wants to keep the baby but the man doesn't want it, he should have the chance to sign a contract in which he refuses everything that has something to do with the baby.

That means no
-alimony
-visits
-name of his in it's birth certificate.

If he wants to keep it and she doesn't, then idk.
 

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It's a flawed system that doesn't have a right answer.

A woman who becomes pregnant and wants the child can do what she pleases, and vice versa. The woman has absolute control over what becomes of the fetus, regardless of any male input, even the eventual father's. If she wants the kid and the father doesn't, he's forced to pay child support for X amount of time. If the woman wants the child but the father doesn't, tough luck. However, how exactly is an issue like this fixed?

I'm personally against abortion, but that's only because I personally look at a fetus like I would a newborn child. It's a human in the making, just like boys and girls are men and women in the making. There are plenty alternatives to ending a life, but that's just my opinion. Then you have the people who believe that a fetus is nothing more than a parasite, and will be nothing more than a parasite. It's like throwing away a perfectly good cake, while it's in the baking pan, before you bake it in the oven. Just.. what?

The only situation where I've ever been neutral and not against abortion are rape incidents. To me, I can half-way justify abortion in this scenario because the mother would be going through a lot of trauma from being raped and having a child, etc. etc. etc.. it'd be a messy situation and it's perfectly logical that someone would want to avoid that. But as far as I'm concerned, abortion isn't okay in any other scenario whatsoever regardless of the details.

Regardless of my personal philosophies, taking away a woman's right to do what she wants with her body is almost as bad as abortion itself. Fathers and future fathers should have much influence on the pregnant woman's final decision, but at the end of the day, it's all her and that's where the decision needs to stay.

TL;DR - Should fathers have a say? Yes. Should their say be voiced to the point of her ultimate decision being overruled? No.

Didn't read the other comments so idk if somone said it before.

If the woman wants to keep the baby but the man doesn't want it, he should have the chance to sign a contract in which he refuses everything that has something to do with the baby.

That means no
-alimony
-visits
-name of his in it's birth certificate.

If he wants to keep it and she doesn't, then idk.
Tbh, you shouldn't be having *** if you're not mature enough to have a child. And if you're willing to take risks, then face the consequences like real adults do. Extremely easy and efficient way to avoid a situation like this...

Oh, and it's completely unfair for a guy to have *** with a girl, get her pregnant, then bounce and say he doesn't want the child and force the woman/government to do what a real man should be doing in the first place.
 
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Hashirama Senjuu

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Didn't read the other comments so idk if somone said it before.

If the woman wants to keep the baby but the man doesn't want it, he should have the chance to sign a contract in which he refuses everything that has something to do with the baby.

That means no
-alimony
-visits
-name of his in it's birth certificate.

If he wants to keep it and she doesn't, then idk.
It's already like that. As long as the fathers name isn't on the birth certificate he doesn't have to do anything.
 

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Well yes they should have a say but women should have a bigger say. Or alternatively you know, be more responsible and don't go around sleeping with people carelessly w/o safety, in fact don't do people you don't trust/have a mutual understanding with and respect for.
 

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If fathers have no say in abortion then they shouldn't be sucked dry financially with child support either. They should just leave everything to the woman, however if they do have to be part of raising the child then they must have a say in it.
 
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